beer 30
Footballguy
Just happy to see you didn't exit, stage left off the 480 bridge with the news about Gordon. Had to be a tough weekend for you.
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DocHolliday
Footballguy
I thought you were going to point out that they cannot go 2-2 with the tie.
The Browns should win the next 2 games and Taylor is going to remain the QB.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Nah. Sucks he's leaving the Browns but i knew it wouldn't last past next year.
Still my fave player and VERY interested to see where he lands
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Browns bringing in Blair Walsh (ex-Vikings/Seahawks) and Cairo Santos (ex-Chiefs/Bears) for workouts today.
Dan Bailey reportedly turned down the Browns yesterday.
Dan Bailey reportedly turned down the Browns yesterday.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
When Tyrod threw that deep ball on fourth down to Callaway I thought that he overthrew it and that Callaway had no-chance to catch it but he had the 3rd highest speed recorded in the NFL this season
Seems Dorsey got a true deep-threat in the 4th round.
Dorsey also drafted the guy with the top speed, last year in Tyreek Hill who owns the top-two fastest recorded speeds in the NFL this year.
He also drafted the phenom QB kid who started his 3rd NFL game and is already setting records and torched the Steelers for 6 TDs.
We may have found ourselves a real talented GM considering how well Genard Avery and Denzel Ward played in the first game and how much improved Desmond Harrison played at LT yesterday.
Can't wait to see what Baker does when he gets his shot.
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per Next Gen stats, Antonio Callaway hit a top speed of 21.48 mph on that 47-yard touchdown catch. That's the third fastest top speed reached so far this season, second only to Tyreek Hill, who owns the top two spots
9:07 AM - 17 Sep 2018
Seems Dorsey got a true deep-threat in the 4th round.
Dorsey also drafted the guy with the top speed, last year in Tyreek Hill who owns the top-two fastest recorded speeds in the NFL this year.
He also drafted the phenom QB kid who started his 3rd NFL game and is already setting records and torched the Steelers for 6 TDs.
We may have found ourselves a real talented GM considering how well Genard Avery and Denzel Ward played in the first game and how much improved Desmond Harrison played at LT yesterday.
Can't wait to see what Baker does when he gets his shot.
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per Next Gen stats, Antonio Callaway hit a top speed of 21.48 mph on that 47-yard touchdown catch. That's the third fastest top speed reached so far this season, second only to Tyreek Hill, who owns the top two spots
9:07 AM - 17 Sep 2018
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Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
The best thing for Dorsey is he's not starting with a roster devoid of talent.
These two guys are entering their 2nd seasons.
We've got talent on this team and are getting better.
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Myles Garrett:
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Myles Garrett: -Waits a 1/4 of a beat after snap to let blockers slide inside. -Works inside-out to set up TE. -Gets skinny inside edge blocker. -Turns Inside pad to target. -Drops weight inside, -Extends and wraps so hands meet. -Drop weight and hold on.
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Larry Ogunjobi, folks.
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Larry Ogunjobi, folks. Play 1: bull rushed Max Unger (#60) into the backfield, disrupts RB flow and recovers for a tackle. Play 2: dominant club/rip to blow past the Unger for the sack. These 2 plays cause push back & missed FG. Game changing stuff.
These two guys are entering their 2nd seasons.
We've got talent on this team and are getting better.
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Myles Garrett:
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Myles Garrett: -Waits a 1/4 of a beat after snap to let blockers slide inside. -Works inside-out to set up TE. -Gets skinny inside edge blocker. -Turns Inside pad to target. -Drops weight inside, -Extends and wraps so hands meet. -Drop weight and hold on.
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Larry Ogunjobi, folks.
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Larry Ogunjobi, folks. Play 1: bull rushed Max Unger (#60) into the backfield, disrupts RB flow and recovers for a tackle. Play 2: dominant club/rip to blow past the Unger for the sack. These 2 plays cause push back & missed FG. Game changing stuff.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
This was the best they could do?
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Posting this so I have a star next to the thread.
Funny reads in here, good thing you guys have a sense of humor about it
Funny reads in here, good thing you guys have a sense of humor about it
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Does he have a pulse?
Then he's better than Gonzo.
See ya Thursday, looking forward to see what Darnold does and both QBs are going to be up against tough defenses.
Hopefully no major injuries on a short week.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I hope he is - I just would have thought they would have brought in a veteran kicker after having Gonzalez cost them so much.
I have to admit that I am a bit nervous about giving the Browns their first win in close to two years. The Browns defensive front is nasty and the Jets' o-line is terrible. Jets defense has looked very good as well, despite a few costly mistakes on this past Sunday. If they do a better job on containing Taylor's runs then they did with Tannehill I expect a pretty low scoring game.
It should be a fun game. Too bad Mayfield is still on the bench or this would have been an even better matchup. I'm very pleased with Darnold so far, but he's a rookie so can't expect him to carry a team - but maybe he has a small chip on his shoulder this week.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Wow, another nail in the Hue Jackson coffin.
Check this out.
Hue started a kicker with a groin injury. No excuses but are ya kidd'n me?
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Turns out Browns' kicker Zane Gonzalez, who is losing Cleveland's kicking job this week, has been kicking with a groin injury that requires an MRI today, per source. Browns could reach an injury settlement with him or put him on waivers, injured.
9:43 AM - 17 Sep 2018
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What da F???
No words.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
Meh, the "groin injury" could just be an excuse for both sides to save some face.
Jackson gets to say "I didn't know he was injured" and Gonzalez gets to say "I wouldn't have missed all those kicks if I didn't get that last-second groin injury!"
Jackson gets to say "I didn't know he was injured" and Gonzalez gets to say "I wouldn't have missed all those kicks if I didn't get that last-second groin injury!"
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I didn't realize he dominated the Kohl's Kicking Pro Combine. I stand corrected.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Desmond Harrison looked a LOT BETTER yesterday against the Saints than he did last week.
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Orange and Brown Rpt Retweeted Brian Spoon
RE: Harrison at LT against the Saints
Orange and Brown Rpt added,
Brian Spoon @BrianSpoon
Replying to @FtblSickness
2 pressures allowed in 35 pass block snaps and fifth best offensive grade
10:19 AM - 17 Sep 2018
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If he turns out to be just a 'solid' or 'good-nuff' LT then it puts us in a much better position when Baker takes over.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Might want to wait until Hue Jackson is gone... don't want to ruin a number 1 pick. I'm not just talking about losing his coaching gig, but you need him at least 2 states removed from Ohio before doing this.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
How bad of an organization do you have to be for an out of work kicker to refuse to even try out with you? I try to find positives every off-season, but this is just really a kick-in-the-nutz kind of reality check.
DallasDMac
Footballguy
In all seriousness, I have to ask, why? What has he done to earn your admiration? One good season followed by years of letting down the organization. I can't find anything praise-worthy about the guy.
MAC_32
Footballguy
DallasDMac
Footballguy
I didn't know that. Really hadn't heard anything from him since he was cut. Good to know I guess. Apparently he was one of the smart ones that saved his money and is in a position to be able to decide if he wants to play on or not. Kind of refreshing in its own right.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
We 'might' get something out of Gordon yet.
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From @gmfb: The #Browns are expected to be able to trade WR Josh Gordon before 4 pm today and the trade compensation should be legit.
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From @gmfb: The #Browns are expected to be able to trade WR Josh Gordon before 4 pm today and the trade compensation should be legit.
amnesiac
beer is good
amnesiac
beer is good
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Thier was a the clip attached to that tweet where Rappaport says up to a 4th but it could be 'significant' compensation since any deal would be contingent on how many games Gordon played etc..which 'could' bump it up to a 4th plus 'extra' picks which seemed like lower picks but ANYTHING more than zero picks with a cold release is better than nothing and if we trade him we get to ship him far away and out of the division and 'hopefully' out of the AFC.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
He signed with Minnesota today. I'm sure that deal was done before the Browns called.
MAC_32
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Well considering the team had a kicker with a groin injury who missed 8 points in a 3 point loss to prevent the first win in nearly two years it would be our luck for Gordon to 'suddenly' clean up his act and regain his 2014 form.I'm sorry not sorry but
Peak
Footballguy
Josephy has missed nearly as many FGs as Zane! He also missed 4 XP in college! How does that happen?!?! Give me a vet that knows how to kick the damn ball, not some kid who had a crappy record in college. I understand Bailey not signing here, but why not Santo or another vet for now?
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
We get a 'conditional' fifth and Gordon is probably drinking a fifth right now so the Pats will probably cut him by Sunday and we'll get nothing.
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Trade now agreed to: Patriots are sending Cleveland a 5th-round pick and if Gordon isn't active for 10 games, Patriots get back a late-round pick from Browns, sources tell ESPN. As @rapsheet reported, Patriots were closing in on trade for Gordon. Trade now official.
1:15 PM - 17 Sep 2018
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Trade now agreed to: Patriots are sending Cleveland a 5th-round pick and if Gordon isn't active for 10 games, Patriots get back a late-round pick from Browns, sources tell ESPN. As @rapsheet reported, Patriots were closing in on trade for Gordon. Trade now official.
1:15 PM - 17 Sep 2018
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
DocHolliday
Footballguy
beer 30
Footballguy
So what's the fastest way to Mayfield as QB and Hue fired?
Hue/Taylor lose to Darnold on national TV is a must. So every Browns fan should be rooting for the Jets.
Hue keeps losing with Taylor. That's a given. Keep Mayfield on the sidelines and rack up loses seems like the best case scenario. Last thing this team needs is to start winning with Mayfield and Hue gets to stick around.
Hue/Taylor lose to Darnold on national TV is a must. So every Browns fan should be rooting for the Jets.
Hue keeps losing with Taylor. That's a given. Keep Mayfield on the sidelines and rack up loses seems like the best case scenario. Last thing this team needs is to start winning with Mayfield and Hue gets to stick around.
Peak
Footballguy
My preference is to keep Mayfield on the bench this year. I don't want to rush him onto the field in spite of my desire for Hue to be fired. The team is getting better each week - by that I mean the players. Taylor still has his hangups, but Game 1 and Game 2 were completely different. I'd like to see some progression with Thursday's game. I think Haley said it best, this offense needs time and will get better each week.
If Hue is going to go, it's going to be his own doing. Look at the poor communication this week - How did he not know Zane was injured, if he truly was? If he wasn't injured, then who is leaking false information? The "team leaks" to Silver and MKC about Gordon's release and being "not himself". Those didn't come from Dorsey, and we all know who Hue's "friends" are in the media by now - as does other team executives I'm sure. Hue will dig his own grave. Even when we start winning games, he'll find ways of messing it up. I'm confident in that happening.
With all that said, there is someone in a high ranking position who really likes Hue and is keeping him around for some reason. There are too many red flags from last year and this off-season that would have canned any other coach in this league. If that high ranking person is keeping Hue around, it's going to take alot to get rid of him. Losing to Darnold on primetime is only another tally mark on that list. But it's not the final straw, I'm sure.
beer 30
Footballguy
Jarvis Landry limited with a knee injury. Don't expect it to be anything, just throwing it out there.
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/browns-jarvis-landry-limited-again-tuesday/
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/browns-jarvis-landry-limited-again-tuesday/
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Any word of giving Chubb more carries? Hyde's stats haven't been great through two games.
Peak
Footballguy
The 3rd Page? Really?!?! Tonight's the night the Browns break the winless streak! Or at least one of them....They'll still be winless on Sundays for a little while longer.
But still! Let the defense run wild on the JETS offensive line and give Darnold a true test of what to expect from an NFL defense. Garrett will be taking up residence in Darnold's mind all game long. I have great confidence in the defense to wreck some havoc, but the offense still has me worried. Hoping that Taylor can keep things moving in the right direction. Let Hyde loose and feed Landry as much as possible, with a few helpings to Calloway for those long completions.
Tonights the night the fridges are unlocked in Cleveland!
But still! Let the defense run wild on the JETS offensive line and give Darnold a true test of what to expect from an NFL defense. Garrett will be taking up residence in Darnold's mind all game long. I have great confidence in the defense to wreck some havoc, but the offense still has me worried. Hoping that Taylor can keep things moving in the right direction. Let Hyde loose and feed Landry as much as possible, with a few helpings to Calloway for those long completions.
Tonights the night the fridges are unlocked in Cleveland!
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Nadda but the kid is averaging 7 yards a carry so he's earned more PT IMHO.
EDIT: Short answer is - like any rookie RB, he's got to learn pass-pro, kid is clueless with pass-pro at this time.
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MAC_32
Footballguy
If this game starts like the last two then it should happen. Will it? Great question, wish I had the answer. There's value in a veteran that will usually get you 3 yards per carry, but it's protecting a lead in the 4th quarter. Not as a starter.
They will be on the field 80% of the time after Tyrod's night of 3 and out series. By the 4th Q, they will be gassed. Hue and Tyrod will say 'we did our job' while pointing a the scoreboard which shows Browns 3 points.MAC_32 said:All this confidence in the defense is obviously only going to lead to one thing, them being the one's to blow it tonight. The question is, how.
beer 30
Footballguy
MAC_32 said:All this confidence in the defense is obviously only going to lead to one thing, them being the one's to blow it tonight. The question is, how.
YOU CAN ALL BURN IN HELL!!!!
Browns 28 Jets 10
Take it to the bank!!!!
Peak
Footballguy
This probably the most realistic outcome....but can't you let me have just a few minutes of joy before the game starts and reality comes crashing down on me crushing every bit of my hopes and dreams? I just want to think they'll do something good, even if in reality they find a way to muck it up like they always do.
