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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Well, since these QBs are gonna blow, we should just jump off the bridge no then, since in any scenario we are gonna suck
ghostguy123
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
My ideal perfect storm scenario that would get me blacked out on my redbreast so fast tonight from joy...............................
no particular teams, just these players getting picked before pick 4 and then after we pick, through either just picking or trade ups:
1- Clowney
2- Mathews
3- Mack (I know a lot of us like him, me too, just not for my perfect and semi realistic scenario)
4- Browns take Sammy Watkins...........................
5- A QB, whoever, dont care
teams in the 6-7 range start looking into trading down............and the Browns ring the bell. Trade picks 26 and 35 to move up for either pick 6 or 7 and somehow manage to get....................GREG ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!
picks 4,26,35 net us Watkins AND Robinson.
I know people are talking about people trading up for Robsinon or whatever, or the Rams might take him, but seriously who the hell knows, and it is DEFINITELY not some sort of crazy thinking that he just MIGHT last till 6 or 7 with a team being happy getting picks 26 and 35 this year.
Let's get it done
no particular teams, just these players getting picked before pick 4 and then after we pick, through either just picking or trade ups:
1- Clowney
2- Mathews
3- Mack (I know a lot of us like him, me too, just not for my perfect and semi realistic scenario)
4- Browns take Sammy Watkins...........................
5- A QB, whoever, dont care
teams in the 6-7 range start looking into trading down............and the Browns ring the bell. Trade picks 26 and 35 to move up for either pick 6 or 7 and somehow manage to get....................GREG ROBINSON!!!!!!!!!!
picks 4,26,35 net us Watkins AND Robinson.
I know people are talking about people trading up for Robsinon or whatever, or the Rams might take him, but seriously who the hell knows, and it is DEFINITELY not some sort of crazy thinking that he just MIGHT last till 6 or 7 with a team being happy getting picks 26 and 35 this year.
Let's get it done
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Hoyer drops back to pass.................has 14 seconds to pass while JT and Robinson are man handling the DEs and Mack is holding down the fort on the NT. Tate is in the backfield having a cup of coffee waiting for someone to block.
Gordon and Watkins are running ladders for fun in the secondary. Cameron is running figure 8's all over the middle of the field.
Hawkins is posting a selfie with all the activity going on in the background.
Hoyer decides to throw after about 294 seconds..................TD
Gordon and Watkins are running ladders for fun in the secondary. Cameron is running figure 8's all over the middle of the field.
Hawkins is posting a selfie with all the activity going on in the background.
Hoyer decides to throw after about 294 seconds..................TD
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mr fancypants
Footballguy
I'm in a state of shock as I've just listened to Grossi's podcast on the RBS. He is finally seeing the light that outside of not being able to acquire Mack the next best thing would be to trade down and acquire a 2nd CB. He even mentioned that Dennard could be a better fit in Pettine's defense than Gilbert. I've only been advocating this scenario for the last 3 months as the 2nd CB will have the most impact than any other position other than QB for this team.
Draft day is here
Draft day is here
wadegarrett
FFA Legend™
B-Deep
Footballguy
If Johnny Football is a Cowboy I'll buy a jersey and post a pic, someone in here match me from the browns, soulfly???
come on, embrace the insanity!
Robinson is a good pick for y'all if you get him. As long as the team is patient and lets everyone grow he could be another piece in a solid core.
I actually thin long term that's a better pick than Watkins. Watkins may make you better sooner, but if you build a solid line stay stable and convince mack to stay (staying stable and progressing should do this), you may get there slower but could be building a team that is good for a long time.
come on, embrace the insanity!
Robinson is a good pick for y'all if you get him. As long as the team is patient and lets everyone grow he could be another piece in a solid core.
I actually thin long term that's a better pick than Watkins. Watkins may make you better sooner, but if you build a solid line stay stable and convince mack to stay (staying stable and progressing should do this), you may get there slower but could be building a team that is good for a long time.
Random
Footballguy
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Ya know, no matter what you think of Manziel's pro prospects, he's not a superstar of media creation. He's a superstar because he put up huge numbers and set records in the nation's top defensive conference.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Can anyone confirm this one?
Just saw it on a Browns board but didn't hear it myself but it falls in-line with the other rumors of the Browns talking with teams who want to move-up to our #4 pick.
Sal-Pal says two teams have been busy working the phones with us.
Here is what was posted.
"Sal Palantonio just said on ESPN that 2 teams (Atlanta & Buffalo) are in talks with Cleveland for their #4 pick."
On Cleveland Browns Daily they've been hinting of a possible trade-down with Atlanta should OLB/DE Kalil Mack still be on the board.
Buffalo has been rumored to be trying to move-up with St. Louis but that might be too steep a price for the Bills to pay and ofcourse the Rams would be dropping down pretty far from the #2 pick so I don't know if that works well for either team. I'm sure Jacksonville is in the mix too for a trade-down.
I've heard that Atlanta rumor more than a few times so if Jacksonville takes Watkins and leaves us with Mack we 'may' have a trade-down at the #4 pick but has anyone been watching ESPN and have they heard that Sal Palantonio rumor of both Buffalo and Atlana in talks with us about moving up?
Just saw it on a Browns board but didn't hear it myself but it falls in-line with the other rumors of the Browns talking with teams who want to move-up to our #4 pick.
Sal-Pal says two teams have been busy working the phones with us.
Here is what was posted.
"Sal Palantonio just said on ESPN that 2 teams (Atlanta & Buffalo) are in talks with Cleveland for their #4 pick."
On Cleveland Browns Daily they've been hinting of a possible trade-down with Atlanta should OLB/DE Kalil Mack still be on the board.
Buffalo has been rumored to be trying to move-up with St. Louis but that might be too steep a price for the Bills to pay and ofcourse the Rams would be dropping down pretty far from the #2 pick so I don't know if that works well for either team. I'm sure Jacksonville is in the mix too for a trade-down.
I've heard that Atlanta rumor more than a few times so if Jacksonville takes Watkins and leaves us with Mack we 'may' have a trade-down at the #4 pick but has anyone been watching ESPN and have they heard that Sal Palantonio rumor of both Buffalo and Atlana in talks with us about moving up?
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
If Watkins goes at 2 and Robinson is still there at 4, the Browns take him.
Or Evans. Or maybe Matthews if Watkins and Robinson are both gone.
No chance they take a QB at 4.
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Village Idiot
Pokerguy
Because at 4 trhre is a chance to get a more sure thing at a position of need.
Any of these QB's are more of a gamble, so you use a lesser pick to take the gamble.
Huge difference between 4 and 26.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Clowney
Robinson
Mack
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book that as the top 3 picks.
Leaves CLE with a few options... Personally, I avoid the trade down (I think BUF and OAK make a swap) and take whoever is ranked highest between Evans and Watkins, in which I believe the Browns rate Evans higher..
Top 4 goes:
clowney
robinson
mack
evans
Robinson
Mack
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book that as the top 3 picks.
Leaves CLE with a few options... Personally, I avoid the trade down (I think BUF and OAK make a swap) and take whoever is ranked highest between Evans and Watkins, in which I believe the Browns rate Evans higher..
Top 4 goes:
clowney
robinson
mack
evans
mr fancypants
Footballguy
Sorry, but I am agreeing with Grossi. At #4 the only pick I do is if Mack is there. If not I trade down with Buffalo and grab the best CB on our board.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
This draft needs to be heavily dedicated to the offense.
Defensive picks still need to be made, but this defense is more than capable. The offense is not up there yet.
You kidding me, man? Imagine this offense w the additions of Tate, Hawkins and Evans? Good lord... our offense would go from meh to monster.
this defense has most of the pieces in place to be very good... the offense needs that RZ threat
plus, Im convinced a roby/verrett etc falls.
Defensive picks still need to be made, but this defense is more than capable. The offense is not up there yet.
You kidding me, man? Imagine this offense w the additions of Tate, Hawkins and Evans? Good lord... our offense would go from meh to monster.
this defense has most of the pieces in place to be very good... the offense needs that RZ threat
plus, Im convinced a roby/verrett etc falls.
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mr fancypants
Footballguy
As I've stated above a 2nd CB will have more impact on this team than any other position outside of acquiring a QB.If you have read Collision Low Crossers, you would know Pettine's defense is predicated on having 2 CB's who can play on an island, so he can send the kitchen sink at an opposing offense. Effective 2nd WR's can be found easily in the 2nd/3rd round.Especially with what they will be called upon to do. This isn't fantasy football, taking a WR with the 4th pick is an incredible waste of resources. Give the man what he needs.
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Soulfly3
Footballguy
you think the teams that drafted megatron, aj green, fitz, andre johnson, keyshawn etc think that?
mr fancypants
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
NFL has become a passing league, right?
so might as well get ahead of the curve alongside teams like CHI, ATL, DEN etc.
Plus we get that RZ threat we need. no double coverage. open the run game.
Im all for it, but I do see your side of it
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Swann/Stallworth
Rice/Taylor
Bruce/Holt
Harrison/Wayne
Some good teams have made a lot of hay with 1a/1b options at WR.
Rice/Taylor
Bruce/Holt
Harrison/Wayne
Some good teams have made a lot of hay with 1a/1b options at WR.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Vikings were great on offense with Moss/Carter including a 15-1 season.
That's like 3+ seasons worth of wins for your typical Browns club.
That's like 3+ seasons worth of wins for your typical Browns club.
Not going to endear myself much with that one, am I?
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daveR
Footballguy
I am not convinced that yet another WR, albeit a very good one, is what this team needs most. We have H-O-L-E-S to fill at DB, OL, LB.
Add a top-notch CB and that unit goes from "consistanly exploited" to "what else can we try against them" very quickly.
Games are won by exploiting weaknesses and neutralizing strengths. Where are the Browns weaknesses that people take advantage of in their game-plans?
Add a top-notch CB and that unit goes from "consistanly exploited" to "what else can we try against them" very quickly.
Games are won by exploiting weaknesses and neutralizing strengths. Where are the Browns weaknesses that people take advantage of in their game-plans?
Soulfly3
Footballguy
our defense (even tho underachieving) was not our major weakness.
putting ####### points on the board was. getting yards was. keeping our defense off the field was.
now we've added BETTER defensive players, a BETTER defensive coach... still draft defense, but imo, we need to beef up this offense as well.
putting ####### points on the board was. getting yards was. keeping our defense off the field was.
now we've added BETTER defensive players, a BETTER defensive coach... still draft defense, but imo, we need to beef up this offense as well.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
No, he's still on the Pats.
I just found it funny giving a vote of confidence for a guy that they cut. I actually like Hoyer - not sure he's a franchise QB or even adequate over a full season but can understand why they would want to give him that shot.
B-Deep
Footballguy
there is always a chacne!
maybe they trade down, i think their first pick is a QB, i think everything else has been smokescreen
B-Deep
Footballguy
Didn't Bellicheck also give the vote of confidence to Greg Schiano?
and to Matt Cassell?
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
B-Deep
Footballguy
Soulfly3
Footballguy
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Defense was awful on 3rd down. A corner that could start opposite Haden and keep Skrine inside would go a long ways.
daveR
Footballguy
Points (and yards) happened when we had a competent QB out there. Defense getting burned happened every week. The drops by the WRs hurt quite a bit, but those guys are gone & soon-to-be gone.
Also need some holes for the RBs. Either that, or start lining up OTs in the backfield.
WR is a luxury pick, IMO.
