ghostguy123
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So 106 and 127 can get us up near 85 probably......................plenty of good players left for me to be on board with that
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ghostguy123
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Which is very good. Not like some rookie is gonna come in and be some go to guy for us anyway outside of the top couple guys.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
This guy broke him down quite a bit.
http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2014/05/2014-nfl-draft-close-up-iowa-linebacker-christian-kirksey.html
Bracie Smathers
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Dane Brugler@dpbrugler6 mins
I'm a Christian Kirksey fan - gets physical in coverage, motor is always revving, natural leadership traits #Browns
Marc Sessler@MarcSesslerNFL3 hrs
One receiver to keep an eye on for the #Browns is Charles Johnson. Stashed away last season with an ACL tear, but fast & freaky athletic.
I'm a Christian Kirksey fan - gets physical in coverage, motor is always revving, natural leadership traits #Browns
Marc Sessler@MarcSesslerNFL3 hrs
One receiver to keep an eye on for the #Browns is Charles Johnson. Stashed away last season with an ACL tear, but fast & freaky athletic.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Rams are cleaning up.
Now we need to move up and take one of the good ones left, I don't even care if it's a WR. I wanna walk outta here with 5 good players.
Now we need to move up and take one of the good ones left, I don't even care if it's a WR. I wanna walk outta here with 5 good players.
mr fancypants
Footballguy
Well I guess SF isn't worried about Borland
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Charles Johnson was a project before the injury. Expecting him contribute in any significant way this season is extremely optimistic.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Only 1 2 WRs taken in the 3rd round so far (edit for Moncrief). Bottom guys are purely complimentary from what I know. And at this point, they all basically are as far as grading goes.
Lee
Robinson
Latimer
Moncrief
Adams
Landry
Matthews
Bryant
Richardson
Huff
Ellington
Abbrederis
Herron
Street
Shaq
We're on pick 89.
We own 106, 127, 180, 218.
Bryant
Ellington
Abbrederis
Herron
Street
Shaq
We're on pick 89.
We own 106, 127, 180, 218.
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The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Hmmm
Bobcat10
Footballguy
Well...obviously these guys are going to have some questions to answer. I don't care if they don't take a WR, as long as they have a plan, and I certainly don't want them to reach for need and essentially waste a pick. From everything I can tell, these guys are not in over their heads. I'll reserve judgement until it plays out.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Defense wins Championships !! 
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
Wish I had your optimism SF3. Think Josh is going be chilling with Justin Blackmon.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
A 4th for Stevie Johnson coulda been nice..........
I am sure we end up signing 1-2 guys out there from the scrap pile.
I am sure we end up signing 1-2 guys out there from the scrap pile.
mr fancypants
Footballguy
Say what you want, but Farmers putting together some really nice talent. I am getting to think that Bitonio could be the steal of the draft. Here's a nice clip on Kirksey being interviewed along with comments from Ferentz. Looks to be a much better athlete than Borland with coverage skills.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzDAOEDF1o8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzDAOEDF1o8
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Dr. Octopus
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Santonio Holmes is liking this draft for Cleveland.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Cant bring myself to believe we'd ignore WR COMPLETELY if Gordon was gone for sure.
They must know something we dont. Maybe a short suspension?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Well, if they know he is gone for the year, it sure means they don't draft for "need"..............which I like a lot
mr fancypants
Footballguy
In Grossi's column today. He stated Farmer was aware of this situation 2 weeks ago. The coaching just found out when broken by the media. Kudos to Ray as he has the stones to stand by his board. And I agree with SF3 I think everyone is in an initial state of panic mostly dealing with the guy involved. I think if Farmer felt he had to adjust for a season long suspension he would have.
Bobcat10
Footballguy
PlasmaDogPlasma
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Bobcat10
Footballguy
This is true. That was reported as cough medicine/inadvertent with the league lessening the suspension iirc.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
Gordon is gone for a long time if the reports are true.This will be like his fifth failed test counting college. The guy apparently has an addiction........
You seem to forget, it's the Browns. Trying to use logic and reason just doesn't work. Think of them as a woman and you'll be fine.
ghostguy123
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I know that seems to be a popular mantra here. "Hey, we didn't draft for need!" Don't you think, at some point, all teams draft players at positions they need? Does it make sense to not, at some point, draft to fills holes in your roster? What am I missing?
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Depends how you have your players ranked.
If you have two guys equal, sure, take the WR over the RB or LB
ghostguy123
Footballguy
And free agents and trading late picks for vets is what "fills a hole" not rookie. Is some 3rd or 4th round rookie WR going to come in and make our offense great or something?? That would be extremely rare.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
We still have ZERO confirmation that Gordon's next suspension was of the year long variety.
In fact, there any reports that claim the contrary.
I know Im holding out what most would consider false hope, but guess what? I have to. We have to. This season was set up to be special...
and things still seem way too fishy to me.
In fact, there any reports that claim the contrary.
I know Im holding out what most would consider false hope, but guess what? I have to. We have to. This season was set up to be special...
and things still seem way too fishy to me.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Speaking as a Ravens fan
ducks - an organization that gets the "always BPA" by the national media - I think the good teams blend it (duh). What I mean by that, is that every position is a "need" - even if you're loaded at a spot, what with player movement/injury/age. The Ravens are pretty good at looking a couple of years ahead - Todd Heap when they had Sharpe, etc... - and that leads to a..........more "natural" turnover of players ready to step in, if that makes any sense. Daryl Smith was their best player on D last season, yet they drafted Mosely in the 1st - because Smith is 32 and, by the time he's gone (theoretically) both Mosely & Art Brown should be ready to anchor the middle.Obviously, Baltimore (& NE & Pitt & GB, etc..) have the luxury of almost no pressure to hit home runs in every year. And QB may be the one spot that the above doesn't apply to.
eta: Ozzie is also great at filling in 2nd-line roster spots with under-priced vets BEFORE the draft, meaning he can afford to be more flexible in the draft.
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ghostguy123
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jurb26
Footballguy
We have reports that he failed the drug test. The next step in that process is a year long suspension. It's not really hard to put this together. Gordon can and will appeal I'm sure. That could reduce it to less than a year but we have to wait and see.
metoo
Footballguy
I think they were set to take Watkins but the Bills offered a trade they could not refuse. Your front office is doing a nice job, be patient.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I remember last year reading contrary reports to that. Who knows.
Some concrete news would be nice for a change.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
CTownPride wrote:
Jason Pinkston @ JasonPinkstonOL 3m
Cleveland it's going to be all good trust
Jordan Cameron @ jordancameron 5m
“ @ JasonPinkstonOL: Cleveland it's going to be all good trust” (thumbs-up)
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hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
even greg little alluded to a "snake in the grass"
sounds like the story was purposely planted and perhaps less true than let on?
Jason Pinkston @ JasonPinkstonOL 3m
Cleveland it's going to be all good trust
Jordan Cameron @ jordancameron 5m
“ @ JasonPinkstonOL: Cleveland it's going to be all good trust” (thumbs-up)
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hhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
even greg little alluded to a "snake in the grass"
sounds like the story was purposely planted and perhaps less true than let on?
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ghostguy123
Footballguy
Let's just say for a split second that the whole story is bogus and Gordon isn't suspended.............I wonder if sportsline will change all their grades of C and comments of "what are they thinking, why not a WR????", and al the people calling Farmer an idiot for not drafting for need at WR will change their tune and say they were wrong.
I doubt it.
Soulfly3
Footballguy
Im not saying a suspension isnt potentially looming. It most likely is, to some degree....
Something just smells far too off or it to be so cut and dry, when you take into account EVERYTHING we know until now.
not drafting a wr is the nail in the coffin to me.. true to our board or not.
Something just smells far too off or it to be so cut and dry, when you take into account EVERYTHING we know until now.
not drafting a wr is the nail in the coffin to me.. true to our board or not.
