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DYNASTY: Top 2013 College Prospects (2 Viewers)

Adam Rank is living in a fantasy world. He thinks Keenan Allen could catch a 100 balls in the San Diego offense. I think that would put him 2nd all time to Boldin's 101 receiptions in his rookie year. Talk about unrealistic predictions.

I think this shows a lack of respect to current WRs on the roster. Although I don't doubt that San Diego will be airing it out this year.
Good luck catching 50, Keenan.

 
Adam Rank is living in a fantasy world. He thinks Keenan Allen could catch a 100 balls in the San Diego offense. I think that would put him 2nd all time to Boldin's 101 receiptions in his rookie year. Talk about unrealistic predictions.

I think this shows a lack of respect to current WRs on the roster. Although I don't doubt that San Diego will be airing it out this year.
Good luck catching 50, Keenan.
It does seem far-fetched to predict that any rookie could catch 100 balls in any offense, but it doesn't seem far-fetched to think that Allen could be the #1 WR on San Diego, and San Diego is likely to throw it a lot. Rivers spreads the ball around, though, and there's still the matter of Antonio Gates. The Chargers haven't traditionally been focused on WRs in their offense; the most receptions any WR has had with Rivers at QB was 68 by Jackson in 2009.

Allen is a very different WR than Jackson. In the best-case scenario for Allen, he could catch more balls than Jackson, but with a much lower YPR (Jackson had 17.2 in 2009). You could see 90/1200 if Gates is out or ineffective due to injury. But even that scenario is highly unlikely with Allen coming in as a rookie.

 
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Montee Ball leads post-draft fantasy football rookie rankings

Eric Mack

After watching hours of NFL draft coverage (on two networks), reading countless scouting sites, poring over combine data, staring at stats, agonizing, holding inner debates and launching web news searches, I finally found a 2013 rookie worth drafting as a fantasy starter. And he is all alone.

Welcome to hypesville, Montee Ball. Now, don't go messing this up.

After two legendary years of fantasy football rookies, this draft class feels light on impact starters. But in a way, that's an opportunity: The less widely regarded a prospect is, the more likely he is to be a late-round value steal in your draft. So study up.

Here are my early picks for the top five fantasy football rookies to target on draft day:

1. RB Montee Ball, Denver BroncosIt always has to be a running back, right? That's where the fantasy football bread is buttered.

Ball was the third running back picked in the draft last weekend, going in the second round, but he's entering arguably the best situation. The Broncos, thanks to VP of Football Operations John Elway, carefully mapped out the roles of their backs recently:

• Willis McGahee, who is 31 and coming off an MCL tear and a broken leg: "Our big back right now," Elway told the Denver Post. But not the starter.

• Ronnie Hillman, who fell flat as a rookie in fantasy last year: "Change of pace type guy," Elway said. Merely a situational reserve.

• Knowshon Moreno, who replaced McGahee and starred down the stretch before succumbing to his own knee injury: "..." Um, what was that? "..." Exactly.

• Montee Ball, who set the NCAA record for touchdowns with 83: "A three-down guy for us," Elway said.

It's settled, then: Ball should top the Broncos' running back depth chart right way. We already know that Peyton Manning throwing to Demaryuis Thomas, Eric Decker and Wes Welker is going to raise hell in the passing game. But the running back is going to benefit from John Fox, who likes to play physical football.

The only problem with Ball is that McGahee may steal the goal line carries as the "big back." Still, we should rank the Broncos' second-round pick as the first rookie taken in drafts, say, as the No. 24 running back.

Mostly because of the Denver offense, we rank him ahead of the following projected veteran starters:

• Lamar Miller, Miami Dolphins
• Vick Ballard, Indianapolis Colts
• Rashard Mendenhall, Arizona Cardinals
• Jonathan Stewart, Carolina Panthers
• Mark Ingram, New Orleans Saints
• Chris Ivory, New York Jets
• Jonathan Dwyer, Pittsburgh Steelers
• Daryl Richardson/Isaiah Pead, St. Louis Rams

Early projections for Ball: 225 carries for 950 yards (4.2 average), eight touchdowns

2. RB Eddie Lacy, Green Bay PackersLacy, who went into the draft as the top-rated back by many scouts, slipped into the second round -- along with all of the backs for the first time since 1963. Lacy was the fourth back selected, three picks after the Broncos picked Ball.

Elway so conveniently broke down why he chose Wisconsin's Ball over Alabama's Lacy: "It really came down to the medical side and that's what tilted the scales to Montee. They are both great backs, both very productive backs."

Lacy, who reportedly needed his toe fused and has dealt with hamstring issues, should start for the Packers going into training camp. He needs to beat out the mediocre likes of DuJuan Harris, Alex Green and James Starks -- the latter of whom reportedly went on the trade block during the draft.

Here are the reasons we cannot list Lacy ahead of Ball right now:

• The Packers' running game is non-existent.

• They have a lot of backs to choose from and might go with a veteran because pass protection is king in the Packers' offense.

• Alabama had three offensive lineman drafted (two in the top 11), so Lacy very well might be a product of the system.

• On a related note: Lacy's Crimson Tide predecessors Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson were more highly rated coming out of the draft and they didn't manage to average 4.0 yards per carry.

• The health questions.

Early projections for Lacy: 200 carries for 775 yards (3.9 average), seven TDs

3. RB Le'Veon Bell, Pittsburgh SteelersBell appears to be the ideal mix between Ball's and Lacy's situations. He is talented, fits a physical running game system perfectly and will likely start. Our problem with Bell lies with that last point.

Because Bell is just 20 years old and left college a year early, he is a bit more raw and more of a long-term project. Ball and Lacy are both two years older.

Yes, Bell's size is a perfect fit for the Steelers, who want to pound the football in the physical AFC North, but being physical at age 20 or 21 is a lot different than at ages 28 (Isaac Redman) or 24 (Jonathan Dwyer).

Bell is this year's David Wilson, another early draft entrant: a potentially great pick who can get the early cold-shoulder treatment behind veterans on a contending team. Bell needs to be a tick behind those top two.

Early projections for Bell: 175 carries for 700 yards (4.0 average), five TDs

4. WR Tavon Austin, St. Louis RamsAustin was the first skill-position player to come off the draft board at eighth overall to the Rams, but he's not like a Calvin Johnson or A.J. Green. He is a slot receiver, as opposed to a big and strong outside threat, at least initially, and that position requires some time and polish. Ask Wes Welker and Victor Cruz, two players of similar stature.

The Rams still project to start Chris Givens and Brian Quick on the outside, so Austin will be Bradford's inside and option-route target. It can get Austin a lot of receptions and yards after the catch, but he doesn't project to be a instant hit in the touchdown category. Also, Bradford still has some proving to do as a distributor.

Austin is the No. 1 rookie wide receiver to target. He ranks just outside of the top 40 wide receivers and slightly ahead of San Diego's Keenan Allen and the Texans' DeAndre Hopkins. Austin's ranking, though, is more of a function of his big-play potential and targets than of his likely touchdowns. Allen and Hopkins are in better offenses and can start right away on the outside.

Early projections for Austin: 67 catches, 800 yards and four TDs

5. RB Giovani Bernard, Cincinnati BengalsAnd finally, we come to the first running back selected (37th overall). Unlike the trio above, Bernard is a bit undersized for a feature back, at 5-foot-9, 202 pounds. This is not to say a back that size cannot be a star, but the Bengals play in a "big back" division.

BenJarvus Green-Ellis will likely be the starter out of training camp, but the Bengals may use Bernard to mix things up and an injury to BGE would push Bernard into the top role. Bernard might be this year's Lamar Miller: a 21-year-old who came out as a sophomore and has to bide his time.

Early projections for Bernard: 740 total yards and five total TDs

Early post-draft rookies by positionWe will have plenty of time to dissect this class more fully in the coming weeks, but here is an early ranking by position for 2013 fantasy value:

Quarterbacks

1. E.J. Manuel, Buffalo Bills
2. Geno Smith, New York Jets
3. Matt Barkley, Philadelphia Eagles
4. Mike Glennon, Tampa Bay Buccaneers
5. Landry Jones, Pittsburgh Steelers
6. Tyler Wilson, Oakland Raiders
7. Tyler Bray, Kansas City Chiefs (undrafted)
8. Ryan Griffin, Houston Texans
9. Ryan Nassib, New York Giants
10. Zac Dysert, Denver Broncos

Running backs

1. Montee Ball, Denver Broncos
2. Eddie Lacy, Green Bay Packers
3. Le'Veon Bell, Pittsburgh Steelers
4. Giovani Bernard, Cincinnati Bengals
5. Johnathan Franklin, Green Bay Packers
6. Stepfan Taylor, Arizona Cardinals
7. Joseph Randle, Dallas Cowboys
8. Knile Davis, Kansas City Chiefs
9. Zac Stacy, St. Louis Rams
10. Andre Ellington, Arizona Cardinals

Not ranked: Marcus Lattimore, San Francisco 49ers (expected to spend the year on the PUP list)

Wide receivers

1. Tavon Austin, St. Louis Rams
2. Keenan Allen, San Diego Chargers
3. DeAndre Hopkins, Houston Texans
4. Cordarrelle Patterson, Minnesota Vikings
5. Aaron Dobson, New England Patriots
6. Robert Woods, Buffalo Bills
7. Justin Hunter, Tennessee Titans
8. Stedman Bailey, St. Louis Rams
9. Josh Boyce, New England Patriots
10. Markus Wheaton, Pittsburgh Steelers
11. Quinton Patton, San Francisco 49ers
12. Terrance Williams, Dallas Cowboys
13. Marquise Goodwin, Buffalo Bills
14. Ace Sanders, Jacksonville Jaguars
15. Kenny Stills, New Orleans Saints

Honorable mention: Da'Rick Rogers, Buffalo Bills (undrafted free agent who slipped due to off-field issues)

Tight ends

1. Tyler Eifert, Cincinnati Bengals
2. Zach Ertz, Philadelphia Eagles
3. Jordan Reed, Washington Redskins
4. Travis Kelce, Kansas City Chiefs
5. Nick Kasa, Oakland Raiders
6. Mychal Rivera, Oakland Raiders
7. Vance McDonald, San Francisco 49ers
8. Gavin Escobar, Dallas Cowboys
9. Levine Toilolo, Atlanta Falcons
10. Dion Sims, Miami Dolphins

Kickers

1. Caleb Sturgis, Miami Dolphins
2. Dustin Hopkins, Buffalo Bills
 
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Draft 2013: Impact Rookies
Adam Levitan
When evaluating a rookie class for a Dynasty draft, it's all about talent and durability. Re-draft fantasy leagues, however, are a totally different animal. We need talented players, but more importantly we need ones that will have a chance to contribute right away. At positions such as quarterback and wide receiver, that doesn't usually happen.

Last season was a bit of an abberation at the quarterback spot. Three rookies (Robert Griffin III, Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson) finished among the top-10 at their position. Running back was truer to historical form as Doug Martin, Alfred Morris and Trent Richardson ranked second, fifth and ninth respectively. There were no wideouts or tight ends among the top-10 fantasy scoreers at their positions.

With that in mind, let's get to the very promising 2013 class. This is how I'd rank the rookies if we were drafting today:

[SIZE=small]1. Montee Ball, RB, Broncos[/SIZE]
At first glance, Denver’s depth chart looks crowded. We’ll see how long that lasts. Both Willis McGahee and Knowshon Moreno are candidates for release at some point before Week 1, which would leave Ball as the top dog. Undersized 2012 third-rounder Ronnie Hillman has been pegged as a simple change-of-pace option. Ball’s absurd 924 carries at Wisconsin aren’t a short-term concern, and they might not be a long-term concern either. Kevin Smith flamed out in the NFL after 905 NCAA carries, but LaDainian Tomlinson (943 carries at TCU) and Ray Rice (910 carries at Rutgers) are pictures of durability. John Elway is already comparing Ball’s running style to Terrell Davis’.

[SIZE=small]2. Le’Veon Bell, RB, Steelers[/SIZE]
Bell didn’t jump off the screen while at Michigan State, failing to show much lateral quickness while averaging 4.99 YPC. But he always falls forward, plays well in the passing game and packs a punch at 230 pounds. The Steelers haven’t been shy about letting the world know he’s going to be their new workhorse. Check out these quotes from the week after the draft:

“This is a big guy that can play like a big back, and yet also can get outside some and catch the ball,” OC Todd Haley said. “(He’s) a three-down back, which is big for us.”

Haley also said Bell has “Eddie George physical traits. … He looks like a workhorse back. He’s not a guy that you’d shy away from giving it to him 30 times per game.”

Jonathan Dwyer and Isaac Redman are just complementary pieces at this point. Bell doesn’t have the most talent among this year’s rookie runners, but he has the clearest path to touches.

[SIZE=small]3. Eddie Lacy, RB, Packers[/SIZE]
Once regarded as the obvious No. 1 running back in the draft, Lacy slipped to No. 61 overall and watched three backs go before him. We have to ask why. During the free-fall, PFT reported that Lacy’s slide arose “from both injuries and a perception that he lacks the passion necessary to play pro football at a high level.” In the draft’s aftermath, it was revealed that the Steelers “wouldn’t touch” him because his big toe had been fused during a 2012 surgery. Perhaps the Packers themselves weren’t completely sold on Lacy’s durability, as they traded up to steal UCLA RB Johnathan Franklin at No. 125 overall.

All that is the bad news. The good news is that Lacy played in all 14 games for Alabama after the surgery, averaging 6.48 YPC on 204 totes. He’s also an ideal fit as an early-down pounder in the Packers’ scheme. Before Cedric Benson went down last season, he was averaging 14.2 carries per game. Lacy is infinitely more explosive than CedBen and is also better at the goal line. If he’s truly 100 percent as he claims he is, there’s solid RB2 appeal here in non-PPR formats. The Packers’ offense will generate a ton of potential plunges for Lacy from inside the 5-yard line. Double-digit touchdowns is well within reach.

[SIZE=small]4. Giovani Bernard, RB, Bengals[/SIZE]
The Bengals finally gave up on Bernard Scott, identifying their desperate need for big-play back. Enter Bernard, who was the first running back off the board thanks to his 6.7 YPC at North Carolina last season and 4.53 forty at 202 pounds. He’s a gifted athlete whose fantasy appeal down the road is far greater than it is in 2013. For now, BenJarvus Green-Ellis is going to handle the majority of early-down work and short-yardage chances. Bernard projects to mix in and get a series or two to himself each half. Expect something between 170 and 210 total touches this season.

[SIZE=small]5. Tavon Austin, WR, Rams[/SIZE]
This is the most explosive, dynamic, game-changing rookie. Drawing comparisons to Percy Harvin and Randall Cobb, the 5’8/174 Austin lands with a Rams offense that is desperate for weapons. He’ll immediately take over as the slot receiver and will also get some touches out of the backfield and on returns. But in re-draft (rather than Dynasty), the emphasis will always be on running backs. It’s easier for them to pick up the system and immediately produce. Austin will also be fighting with a suddenly talented pass-catching corps of Jared Cook, Chris Givens and Brian Quick for looks.

[SIZE=small]6. Johnathan Franklin, RB, Packers[/SIZE]
As mentioned above, the Packers took Franklin just two rounds after they took Eddie Lacy. We also documented Lacy’s injury concerns. But even if the Alabama star stays healthy, there will be a role for Franklin as the “lightning” member of the backfield. Graded by many analysts as the draft’s second-best back, Franklin has 4.49 wheels and can play on third downs. He’s going to surprise a lot of folks in Green Bay that are already placing him in Lacy’s shadow.

[SIZE=small]7. DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Texans[/SIZE]
Hopkins has been handed the starting “Z” job on a silver platter. He literally has no competition for the position vacated by Kevin Walter. So the only question that remains is how much can he produce while playing every snap opposite Andre Johnson? Well, Walter posted a 41/518/2 line on 68 targets last season. Hopkins is faster, runs crisper routes and does more after the catch. Therefore, he’ll get more looks from Matt Schaub and produce more with them. I wouldn’t be shocked if Hopkins outscores Tavon Austin as a rookie.

[SIZE=small]8. Zac Stacy, RB, Rams[/SIZE]
How are the Rams going to fill Steven Jackson’s shoes? With a committee comprised of four guys you’ve probably never heard of. I’d consider 2012 second-round pick Isaiah Pead the solid favorite to start, but Stacy, Daryl Richardson and maybe even Terrence Ganaway are going to be in the mix as well. Stacy is an all-around back that lasted until the fifth round because he lacks burst. Still, we can’t rule him out of this open competition. He averaged 5.72 YPC over two seasons while running behind an undermanned offensive line against SEC competition. Stacy was routinely hit behind the line of scrimmage.

[SIZE=small]9. Aaron Dobson, WR, Patriots[/SIZE]
The Patriots use very distinct positions for their pass-catchers. Danny Amendola is the “Z” and will be backed up by Julian Edelman. Aaron Hernandez is the flex tight end and Rob Gronkowski is the “Y” tight end. The “X” spot is where it starts to get really interesting.

Last year, Brandon Lloyd was the every-down X. He struggled badly to get on the same page as Tom Brady, but came on late for a 74/911/4 line. Most importantly, he saw a hefty 130 targets. Now that Lloyd has been dumped (and attracted no attention on the open market), the position is open.

The leading candidate is Dobson, a former 6’3/210 basketball player turned sure-handed wideout at Marshall. He only has to beat out smallish burner/fellow rookie Josh Boyce and Molasses Mike Jenkins. If Dobson can impress in the offseason and secure the every-down role, the upside will be tantalizing. Check out Field Yates’ full breakdown of Dobson here.

[SIZE=small]10. Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Vikings[/SIZE]
Patterson was the No. 29 overall pick in the draft because of his freakish upside – not his ability to be a difference-maker right away. He spent just one year at Tennessee after transferring from JUCO and is extremely raw as a route-runner. There’s already speculation that the Vikings will have to force-feed him the ball, meaning quick-hitting screens, bubble passes and reverses. Patterson figures to initially play behind Jerome Simpson at the “X” spot in two-wide sets, leaving his re-draft appeal a bit speculative.

[SIZE=small]11. Mike Gillislee, RB, Dolphins[/SIZE]
Gillislee is a bit of a project after spending just one season as a featured runner at Florida. He did run a 4.55 forty and projects to hold his own in NFL pass protection right away. That alone could be enough to unseat current backup Daniel Thomas, whom the current coaching staff is really down on. Thomas has averaged 3.53 YPC in his two-year career and fumbled five times. Lamar Miller is the clear-cut feature back, but has just 51 career NFL carries. There’s room for another back to have a role.

[SIZE=small]12. Travis Kelce, TE, Chiefs[/SIZE]
Here’s a deep sleeper. Kelce, the younger brother of Eagles C Jason Kelce, slipped to the third round of the draft because of character concerns. A 6’5/255 monster with better athletic measureables than Tyler Eifert or Zach Ertz, Kelce has a legit shot to beat out Tony Moeaki and Anthony Fasano for the starting gig in Kansas City. Note that Brent Celek racked up 5.98 targets per game over the last four years while playing for Andy Reid – and those Eagles’ offenses had far more talent.

[SIZE=small]13. Zach Ertz, TE, Eagles[/SIZE]
When Stanford’s Ertz torched Oregon for an 11/106/1 line last season, Chip Kelly was watching. The Eagles traded up to No. 35 overall to snatch the fluid pass-catcher, who is too big for corners at 6’5/249 and too fast for linebackers at 4.76. Ertz is more athletic than first-round tight end Tyler Eifert and has a clearer path to playing time. Brent Celek could be released and Clay Harbor is backup-caliber at best. The fact that Ertz is inept as a blocker is actually a good thing for fantasy owners – Kelly knows the kid’s role.

[SIZE=small]14. Denard Robinson, RB, Jaguars[/SIZE]
As a quarterback at Michigan, Robinson rushed 723 times for 4,495 yards (6.21 YPC) with 42 touchdowns. At 5’10/199 with 4.43 wheels and video-game jukes, he’s reminded some of Chris Johnson. The Jags certainly see it that way, as they drafted him to be a running back and have been lining him up with the first-teamers during rookie minicamps. Maurice Jones-Drew is coming off a Lisfranc fracture and Justin Forsett is a journeyman backup type. Robinson is one to watch closely during training camp as the Jags define his exact role.

[SIZE=small]15. Markus Wheaton, WR, Steelers[/SIZE]
Only two-thirds of the “Young Money” crew are left, meaning Wheaton will be counting his cash behind Antonio Brown and Emmanuel Sanders. But there’s a hole at that No. 3 spot, where Jerricho Cotchery is a release candidate, Plaxico Burress is 35 years old and tight Heath Miller is coming off a complete knee reconstruction. Wheaton is capable of both playing the slot and burning up corners on vertical routes. He’s one to watch as an in-season waiver add.

[SIZE=small]16. Keenan Allen, WR, Chargers[/SIZE]
On paper, the Chargers’ top-three wideouts are Danario Alexander, Malcom Floyd and Vincent Brown. We can poke holes in each. Alexander has long been one of the league’s most fragile players thanks to five left knee surgeries, Floyd will be 32 years old come Week 1 and Brown has just 19 career catches under his belt. So Allen figures to get a chance at some point in 2013, but his ability to capitalize is in doubt. He ran a 4.71 forty – the same time as 306-pound Saints third-round LT Terron Armstead.

[SIZE=small]17. Joseph Randle, RB, Cowboys[/SIZE]
DeMarco Murray’s injuries are really piling up. He’s missed nine games in his first two NFL seasons after slogging through nicks for 916 touches at Oklahoma. The Cowboys haven’t been shy about saying they wanted to upgrade on their backup mess, so Felix Jones is gone and Phillip Tanner/Lance Dunbar will battle for a roster spot in camp. Randle will be the No. 2 guy, but he was a fifth-round pick for a reason. He runs upright and shies away in blitz pickup. Even if Murray goes down, Randle is no lock to produce RB2 numbers.

[SIZE=small]18. E.J. Manuel, QB, Bills[/SIZE]
It seems we’ve vastly underrated rookie quarterbacks that can run lately. Cam Newton was a borderline QB2 when fantasy drafts commenced
in 2011 and Robert Griffin III was the 12th quarterback selected in 2012 ADP. Well, it’s time to do it again.

Manuel is just frighteningly raw for a first-round pick and he still has to beat out Kevin Kolb. His accuracy issues have been compared to Jake Locker’s. Also, over Manuel’s final two seasons at Florida State, he rushed just 213 times for 461 yards (2.13 YPC) with eight touchdowns. That counts sacks as negative rushing yards, but note that Newton ran for 1,473 yards and 20 touchdowns in his final year at Auburn. RG3 rumbled for 1,334 yards and 18 touchdowns over his final two college seasons.

[SIZE=small]19. Da’Rick Rogers, WR, Bills[/SIZE]
When there’s a cluster at a position, it’s often best to simply grab the best talent and let things shake out. That’s the play with Rogers, who shockingly went undrafted out of Tennessee Tech solely because of character issues. As a 20-year-old sophomore at Tennessee, he ripped up the SEC to the tune of 67 catches for 1,040 yards and nine touchdowns. Multiple substance-abuse (marijuana) violations led him to Tech. If Rogers can keep his nose clean, he has a shot to beat out likes of T.J. Graham, Robert Woods and Marquise Goodwin for the No. 2 job opposite Stevie Johnson. GM Buddy Nix said he had a first- to second-round grade on Rogers.

[SIZE=small]20. Justin Hunter, WR, Titans[/SIZE]
When the Titans traded up for Hunter at No. 34 overall, it was an admission that Nate Washington can’t get it done and Kenny Britt can’t be relied upon in the long-term. The local product is expected to slide right in as the starting “Z” receiver, the spot where Washington averaged 5.6 targets per game last year. NFL Films’ Greg Cosell did call Hunter the “most physically talented wide receiver” in the draft, but it’s hard to get too excited about the No. 3 option in a passing game led by the erratic arm of Jake Locker.

[SIZE=small]Honorable mention[/SIZE]
A) Christine Michael, RB, Seahawks: Michael is talented enough to beat out Robert Turbin for the No. 2 gig. And that would mean a lot of Marshawn Lynch’s impending DUI case results in a suspension.
B) Terrance Williams, WR, Cowboys: Would it surprise anyone if Miles Austin popped a hammy? Williams will battle Dwayne Harris for the No. 3 gig.
C) Robert Woods, WR, Bills: He’s set to do battle for the No. 2 gig, but it’s crowded. See the Da’Rick Rogers entry above for more.
D) Josh Boyce, WR, Patriots: I don’t think it will happen, but there is a chance Aaron Dobson (see above) faceplants.
E) Andre Ellington, RB, Cardinals: Stepfan Taylor went 47 picks earlier, but Ellington has more burst and wiggle. Don’t be surprised if he earns carries early on as a change-of-pace option.
 
I think people are setting themselves up for disappointment with Dobson. He wasn't very good in college despite playing in a small conference. He doesn't play up to his timed speed and isn't a consistently good route runner. Just because he's 6'3" and played at Marshall doesn't make him Randy Moss. I think the transition to the NFL will be difficult for him and I'll be very surprised if he lives up to a lot of the expectations that I'm seeing.

On the flipside, Boyce is a good fit for the Patriots. Not a conventional #1 target, but has a good combination of football skills and elite athletic traits. Players who fit that description always have a good chance to stick. I expect Boyce to have more receiving yards than Dobson next season. Possibly by a wide margin. 700-800 is possible. There isn't a team in the NFL that does a better job of utilizing non-traditional weapons than the Patriots (Welker, Hernandez, Woodhead, even Gronk). They're going to like what Boyce brings.

 
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On that note, just took a look at Randy's college stats.

1997 - 96 catches, 1820 yards, 26 TDs

LOL. How did he not get picked in the top 10?

Meanwhile Dobson's best yardage season:

2010 - 44 catches, 689 yards, 5 TDs

Yuck. He did catch 12 TDs in 2011, but overall was allergic to yards throughout his college career.

 
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Why do you figure Boyce's ypc fell by 3 yards per catch, not once but twice in the past two seasons? That could be alarming. Was he injured, used differently?

 
On that note, just took a look at Randy's college stats.

1997 - 96 catches, 1820 yards, 26 TDs

LOL. How did he not get picked in the top 10?

Meanwhile Dobson's best yardage season:

2010 - 44 catches, 689 yards, 5 TDs

Yuck. He did catch 12 TDs in 2011, but overall was allergic to yards throughout his college career.
Everyone knew the score with Moss. He was a knucklehead. It showed too because for all that talent, he never won a title despite playing on teams with multiple pro bowlers.

 
I think people are setting themselves up for disappointment with Dobson. He wasn't very good in college despite playing in a small conference. He doesn't play up to his timed speed and isn't a consistently good route runner. Just because he's 6'3" and played at Marshall doesn't make him Randy Moss. I think the transition to the NFL will be difficult for him and I'll be very surprised if he lives up to a lot of the expectations that I'm seeing.

On the flipside, Boyce is a good fit for the Patriots. Not a conventional #1 target, but has a good combination of football skills and elite athletic traits. Players who fit that description always have a good chance to stick. I expect Boyce to have more receiving yards than Dobson next season. Possibly by a wide margin. 700-800 is possible. There isn't a team in the NFL that does a better job of utilizing non-traditional weapons than the Patriots (Welker, Hernandez, Woodhead, even Gronk). They're going to like what Boyce brings.
I think a lot of people are going to regret passing on Dobson and the real issue people can't get past when they look at him is they try to compare him to Randy Moss. He's not and not many people are. To be perfectly honest (and this isn't to try to slight anyone) but I seriously doubt the vast majority of people who have an opinion on Dobson on these boards have watched many Marshall games consistently. So, maybe its bias due to proximity, but I'm telling anyone who will listen right now: unless you have really watched this guy play, ignore all the easy stats and the "he's not randy" stuff. This kid is going to be good.

 
I agree. I trust Belichick and company more than EBF or FBG. I am not expecting Moss. But perhaps a Vincent Jackson or Sidney Rice type of player is possible. Hoodie grabbed Dobson with Allen, Wheaton, Bailey, Goodwin, Rogers, and Williams still on the board. Not to mention Josh Boyce. He saw a fit there. And if he didn't have a fit in mind, all the better that means Dobson was his BPA.

Obviously there are holes all over the NE receiving corps and the majority of fantasy production is going to come out of Amendola, Hernandez and Gronk when they are healthy. But health is proving to be elusive for all these players. And if and when they do succumb to injury, those high quality Tom terrific targets are going to somebody. I doubt it will be Edelman or Jenkins. I think Dobson is at least as good a bet as those guys. Jenkins is a glorified linemen, and Edelman is a "jack of all trades, master of none" type of guy.

If Dobson comes in and plays like he can, I could see him getting 75% of what Brandon Lloyd got last year. That still equates to roughly 50 for 750 and 3. Not a bad rookie season and I doubt Boyce gets those numbers.

 
He's no VJax. VJax was a prolific return man in college. It's rare to find a player with the size of a #1 receiver and enough mobility to return kicks effectively. Dobson doesn't have that kind of agility. He's an awkward runner and not a fluid athlete. More of a poor man's Roy Williams than the next Moss.

This situation is Arrelious Benn/Mike Williams all over again. The later pick is better. A year from now Boyce will be worth more than Dobson everywhere.

 
If Dobson was on a team that ran a lot more 2-WR sets, like Oregon State, I can guarantee his production would much better. There were a lot of options in Marshall and his QB simply chose not to force the ball to Dobson. Does anyone seriously think Antavious Wilson and Tommy Shuler are better players? You've probably never even heard of them. Didn't think so.

 
Sabertooth said:
I agree. I trust Belichick and company more than EBF or FBG. I am not expecting Moss. But perhaps a Vincent Jackson or Sidney Rice type of player is possible. Hoodie grabbed Dobson with Allen, Wheaton, Bailey, Goodwin, Rogers, and Williams still on the board. Not to mention Josh Boyce. He saw a fit there. And if he didn't have a fit in mind, all the better that means Dobson was his BPA.
He also grabbed Taylor Price with Mike Williams and Antonio Brown still on the board.

And he grabbed Brandon Tate with Julian Edelman, Brian Hartline, and Austin Collie still on the board.

And he grabbed Matt Slater with Pierre Garcon still on the board.

And he grabbed Chad Jackson with Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall, and Marques Colston still on the board.

And he grabbed Bethel Johnson with Anquan Boldin, Nate Burleson, and Brandon Lloyd still on the board.

In fact, the only WR he's ever drafted that he really ever used enough to be fantasy relevant was Deion Branch.

 
Sabertooth said:
I agree. I trust Belichick and company more than EBF or FBG. I am not expecting Moss. But perhaps a Vincent Jackson or Sidney Rice type of player is possible. Hoodie grabbed Dobson with Allen, Wheaton, Bailey, Goodwin, Rogers, and Williams still on the board. Not to mention Josh Boyce. He saw a fit there. And if he didn't have a fit in mind, all the better that means Dobson was his BPA.
He also grabbed Taylor Price with Mike Williams and Antonio Brown still on the board.

And he grabbed Brandon Tate with Julian Edelman, Brian Hartline, and Austin Collie still on the board.

And he grabbed Matt Slater with Pierre Garcon still on the board.

And he grabbed Chad Jackson with Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall, and Marques Colston still on the board.

And he grabbed Bethel Johnson with Anquan Boldin, Nate Burleson, and Brandon Lloyd still on the board.

In fact, the only WR he's ever drafted that he really ever used enough to be fantasy relevant was Deion Branch.
Should probably include his laundry list of DB's and love affair with Urban Meyer coached Gator players and now Rutgers players.

I have no doubts about New England's ability to scout current pros, but there's dozens of reasons to question their ability to scout college players. When they hit they seem to hit grand slams, but they miss way too often, especially on early picks.

 
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Tyrann Mathieu, Montee Ball among key picks beyond Round 1

By Gil Brandt

Senior Analyst

When the 2013 NFL season gets going in September, the hype spawned by the draft process will fall away and we'll see what this rookie class is really made of. Some first-year players will step into starting roles and produce immediately, while some will take a back seat with their respective teams as they continue to develop their skills. And of course, some will just fade into obscurity.

Last season, we saw players like Seattle Seahawks linebacker Bobby Wagner and Washington Redskins running back Alfred Morris emerge from the shadows and become stars. Neither was being talked about much a year ago, but both went on to play major roles for their respective teams in 2012. This year, I thought I'd try to get ahead of the curve and pick out some rookies who lack buzz but look primed to be immediate difference makers.

Now, when it comes to the list below, you won't see anyone who is widely expected have an impact this season, like Luke Joeckel, Eric Fisher or Tavon Austin. Those guys will all be considered disappointments if they don't make their presence felt. I wanted to focus on players who have, more or less, flown under the radar.

So here are nine rookies (listed in alphabetical order) who seem to be in the right place at the right time to contribute in 2013 -- and all of them were drafted after Round 1.

Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
New Orleans Saints, Round 3, No. 75 overall

The Saints have a need at left tackle, with Jermon Bushrod having departed to the Chicago Bears via free agency. Although Armstead needs to work on his technique, he has a chance to start in Week 1. The Arkansas-Pine Bluff product was outstanding at the NFL Scouting Combine (where he clocked a 4.71-second 40-yard dash) and in postseason all-star games. He has the toughness, intelligence and work ethic that usually come from playing at a small school. In that way, he reminds me of someone the Dallas Cowboys plucked from relative obscurity when I worked for the team: Rayfield Wright, the Hall of Fame offensive lineman drafted out of Fort Valley State in 1967. At Senior Bowl practices, Armstead did a great job against Cornelius Washington, the Georgia defender who went to the Chicago Bears in the sixth round.

Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
Denver Broncos, Round 2, No. 58 overall

Broncos quarterback Peyton Manning will love Ball because of his abilities as a runner and as a pass-catcher. He's a tough runner with good hands -- and he does not fumble. Not to mention, he's a good blocking back. Ball is smart, has a good work ethic and is a very good person. Denver is known for using the play-action pass; I don't think Ball will see eight men in the box very often. If Ball had been with the Broncos last season, they might not have lost to the Baltimore Ravens in the playoffs -- they missed out on about seven first downs, and Ball's the kind of guy who will get you a first down when you need one.

Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall
New England Patriots, Round 2, No. 59 overall

This was a very good second-round pick by the Patriots. Dobson is faster than departed veteran Brandon Lloyd; he should be able to step in for Lloyd and make an immediate impact on New England's passing game. The Marshall product was the best receiver at the Senior Bowl and dazzled at his pro day (running the 40-yard dash in 4.42 and 4.44 seconds). He boasts very good hands and big-play ability. One could make a highlight reel out of the catches he made against East Carolina in 2011 and Purdue last season. He should also help out on special teams.

Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
Philadelphia Eagles, Round 3, No. 67 overall

Logan should start as a rookie for the Eagles. He's a lot like Mike Patterson -- the defensive tackle who just left via free agency -- except Logan is better. He's strong (Logan had 30 reps on the bench press at the combine), has outstanding quickness for the position and is able to get off of blocks. He's also a good pass rusher for a defensive tackle. Logan wore No. 18 at LSU -- which is an honor given to the player who best represents the team, both on and off the field.

Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
Arizona Cardinals, Round 3, No. 69 overall

Mathieu typifies the "high risk, high reward" prospect. He's a really good player who kind of defies the laws of gravity; he's not that tall and he's not that fast, but he makes plays. The key, of course, is to keep Mathieu out of trouble. (He was kicked off the football team at LSU before last season because of substance-abuse issues.) Fellow LSU product Patrick Peterson should be able to help him stay on the right path. Arizona coach Bruce Arians said shortly after Mathieu was drafted that he'd slot in at safety, but I think they'll end up using him more like a third cornerback. He'll also contribute on special teams.

Vance McDonald, TE, Rice
San Francisco 49ers, Round 2, No. 55 overall

McDonald is a great steal. He should step right in and contribute from Week 1 as the Niners' second tight end, out-producing the departed Delanie Walker in that capacity. He has the speed and coordination to play the position and possesses very good hands, though he must learn to block better.

Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
Carolina Panthers, Round 2, No. 44 overall

The strong and athletic Short is a good penetrator -- he had a knack for blocking kicks at Purdue -- who should boost the Panthers' run defense as a Week 1 starter. When you play on a state championship high school basketball team in Indiana, as Short did, you've got to be a pretty good athlete. Short, who did not run at the combine, completed the 40-yard dash in 5.08 and 5.09 seconds at his pro day. The tougher you coach him, the better he's going to be.

Larry Warford, OG, Kentucky
Detroit Lions, Round 3, No. 65 overall

Warford did not run well at the NFL Scouting Combine (notching a 5.58-second 40-yard dash), but Lions coach Jim Schwartz told me he's not worried about that. He just wants someone who can stay in front of pass rushers, and that's something Warford can do. He's strong, moves well for his size and has a good chance to start in Week 1. He does, however, need to control his weight. I know that another team in the NFC was prepared to make Warford a first-round pick if the player they drafted hadn't been available, which should tell you something. Warford is the first offensive lineman out of Kentucky to be drafted in the third round or higher since Dermontti Dawson went 44th overall in 1988.

Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
Dallas Cowboys, Round 3, No. 74 overall

Williams is a hard-working guy with big-play ability; he had 34 catches of 20 yards or more in 2012, the most in college football. He has very good hands and runs better than his 4.52 40 would indicate. He also possesses the ability to catch the ball over his shoulder -- he's very good at that. Williams is primed to exceed expectations; I think he's got a chance to start over veteran receiver Miles Austin. If that happens, he should see plenty of opportunities as defenses roll their coverage toward No. 1 receiver Dez Bryant.

Here are a few more potential impact rookies to keep an eye on:

Le'Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State -- Pittsburgh Steelers, Round 2, No. 48 overall
John Cyprien, S, Florida International -- Jacksonville Jaguars, Round 2, No. 33 overall
Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M -- Seattle Seahawks, Round 2, No. 62 overall
Akeem Spence, DT, Illinois -- Tampa Bay Buccaneers, Round 4, No. 100 overall
Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State -- Detroit Lions, Round 2, No. 36 overall
Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State -- Pittsburgh Steelers, Round 3, No. 79 overall

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I know talent is generally supposed to trump situation in dynasty, but unless I think these guys are going to be at least a consistent WR3 type that will produce on whatever team they are on, the situation after their 1st 2-3 years is cloudy for me and I'm avoiding both of these guys. I'm giving Brady another 2-3 years (I'm hoping it's more, but trying to be realistic), and after he's done who knows what the offense will be like. I'm not inclined to tie up a roster spot (this is a salary cap & contract league btw) waiting for a guy to develop in a complicated offense dominated by two TEs, a slot receiver, and a very good QB with an arguably short amount of career left, and the team doesn't have a good history in drafting WRs. By the time they develop into anything more than an occasional or emergency starter, they very well could be playing for another team or a completely different offense in New England and I'll have moved on to other guys. Maybe I'm overthinking this, but going where they did in my draft (18th and 48th overall), I'm passing and spending those high picks somewhere else.

 
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Ten not-so-noteworthy rookies worth checking out this weekend

Clark Judge
Senior NFL Columnist

Most NFL clubs open three-day rookie camps this weekend, which means they ... and we ... find out how their latest acquisitions fit in, and, guaranteed, guys like Geno Smith and Matt Barkley attract most of the attention.

But they should. They're quarterbacks on high-profile teams in the midst of change. Nevertheless, there are plenty of others worth checking out, and I'm here to offer 10 of the less attractive but most intriguing -- either because they were chosen where they weren't supposed to be or because they're gambles someone was willing to take.

Anyway, let the countdown begin before camps do.

Alec Ogletree, LB, St. Louis: Nobody questions this guy's talent. What they do question is his character -- so much so that some clubs had his name off the board. St. Louis didn't, and maybe that's because Jeff Fisher will take chances on guys whose off-the-field conduct pushes them down the board. He gambled a year ago on defensive back Janoris Jenkins, and that worked out OK. So he gambles again, this time on someone who could've been a top-15 pick had it not been for baggage so considerable that some teams removed his name from their boards. "People are going to make mistakes," Fisher said. "I think this is more of a maturity issue." Maybe, but I want to see for myself.

Cornellius Carradine, DE/LB, San Francisco: First off, I'm interested in anyone who answers to "Tank." Second, there are people who insist he'll be a better pro than former teammate Bjoern Werner, the Colts' first-round draft choice. Carradine was pushed down the board by a torn ACL, but he was impressive at last month's workout, running the 40 in 4.75 and later declaring "there's nothing wrong with my knee." So he's the perfect choice to succeed Justin Smith when he's gone, right? Not so fast. A report in USA Today said his medical recheck at the February combine "wasn't very good," and compared his situation to Tampa Bay's Da'Quan Bowers. Carradine disputed the report, and so did 49ers' GM Trent Baalke, who said the 49ers were "very comfortable" with his medical issues. It's time to find out what's going on.

Robert Woods, WR, Buffalo: I saw him as a first-round talent. He lasted until the 41st pick, and lucky Buffalo. Maybe the Bills just became this year's Cincinnati Bengals, finding their franchise quarterback and star receiver in the first two rounds of the same draft. No, I don't think Woods is A.J. Green, but I do think the guy's a big-play threat who can play outside or in the slot. Plus, he's polished. Buffalo needs someone on the other side of Stevie Johnson, and I like my chances with Woods. Coach Doug Marrone must, too. He watched Woods shred his Syracuse team for two touchdowns and 169 yards in offense in a 42-29 beatdown. "He can come in here and help us score," he said. That's the idea. Now let's see if he's right.

Montee Ball, RB,Denver: I see where John Elway just compared him to Terrell Davis, calling Ball "a gem." Great. Now people will expect him to run for 1,500-2,000 yards and carry the Broncos to the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl I can see. The 1,500 yards? Not with Peyton Manning calling the plays. Nevertheless, Ball fits a need. Willis McGahee is near the end of his career, and Knowshon Mareno and Ronnie Hillman aren't the answer. The Broncos had to find someone who could push the pile and make them more balanced, and Ball is ideal. He was durable and productive at Wisconsin, and he seldom fumbles -- with two in 924 carries there. That's good. But he also had a ton of carries (663 the past two years) and already experienced one concussion, and that's not so good. I don't know, I guess I just want to see anyone who reminds Elway of Terrell Davis.

Eddie Lacy, RB, Green Bay: There was one back in this draft with first-round ability, and you're looking at him. But he lasted until the bottom of the second, which raised the obvious question: Why? There was speculation about his "passion" for the game, but that wasn't the problem. Lingering doubts about injuries -- particularly a turf toe -- were, with Denver and Pittsburgh passing on Lacy to choose other backs. One report suggested Lacy has a fusion of bones that backed off suitors, but the Packers weren't concerned -- at least they weren't concerned with spending a low second-round pick on Lacy. If they're right, they gained a steal. If not, they may be covered. Remember, Green Bay turned around and added UCLA running back Johnathan Franklin in the fourth round.

Tyrann Mathieu, CB, Arizona: Most people know his story, and it's a troubling one: A talented player who couldn't control his off-the-field behavior. So he gets thrown off the LSU team, sits out a season, then returns to be chosen by Arizona in the third round. The Cards are rolling the dice with Mathieu, but they may offer him his best chance to succeed ... and here's why: Patrick Peterson. Mathieu's former LSU teammate, he can mentor the rookie and try to keep him out of trouble. Mathieu told one scout I know that he needed around-the-clock help, and having Peterson in the same locker room is a start. Like everyone else, I want to see what Mathieu offers on the field. But then I want to see what he and others are doing to keep him on track.

Keenan Allen, WR, San Diego: The Chargers need offensive linemen, not another wide receiver. But Allen is not another wide receiver. He's a marvelous playmaker who wasn't supposed to last past the middle of the second round. San Diego found him in the middle of the third, and that's what is called getting value for your pick. But it's also ignoring the most immediate concern -- namely, protection for Philip Rivers. San Diego chose right tackle D.J. Fluker with its first selection, and that was a good start. But it stopped there when there were options galore in the second and third rounds. That's why I want to see Allen. He said his goal is to be "a Pro Bowl player," and that's terrific. But the Bolts' first priority should be to do whatever they can to protect their quarterback. I don't know why they felt Allen was more important than another offensive lineman. So I want to find out.

Stedman Bailey, WR, St. Louis: The Rams needed playmakers for Sam Bradford like Bonwit needs Teller. So they trade up to choose Tavon Austin, the draft's most explosive player, with their first pick. Smart. But then they return in the third round to find Austin's West Virginia teammate, and this just in: Bailey not only had as many catches in 2012 as Austin; he had more yards receiving and over twice as many TD catches. In fact, he had 37 touchdowns the past two years. "He beat double coverage, man coverage and he understands the game," said quarterback Geno Smith. "He has a tremendous feel for the game, great body control, great hands. What else do you want from a receiver?" Well, let's start with height. At 5-foot-10, 193 pounds, Bailey is undersized. But so is Austin, and you've seen what he can do. All I know is this is a guy who lit up Baylor for 13 catches, 303 yards and five touchdowns and had over 200 yards in catches vs. Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. "We're going to lobby the league to see if we can play with more than one ball," said coach Jeff Fisher. That may be another way of saying "The Greatest Show on Turf" is back in St. Louis.

Tyler Wilson, QB, Oakland: It's not that I'm enamored with Wilson. It's that I want to see how this quarterback derby shakes out at Oakland, where three guys have a combined three NFL starts. Wilson is not expected to start, but anything's possible in Oakland. Matt Flynn is the front-runner, but he was the front-runner in Seattle, too, before Russell Wilson came along. I'm not suggesting another Wilson bumps him; what I am suggesting is that there's opportunity. Wilson's stock plummeted last season, but there's a reason: The Razorbacks lost their head coach. So Wilson tries to prove he's an NFL-caliber quarterback, and he'll have his chance. I just want to see what the guy has to offer.

Marquess Wilson, WR, Chicago: There's no question Wilson is talented and should have been drafted somewhere higher than the seventh round. But there's also no question he's a risk. Wilson last year was suspended after nine games, then walked out on coach Mike Leach's program at Washington State, charging the staff with trying to "belittle, intimidate and humiliate us." He later recanted, but the damage was done, and he was barred from Washington State's Pro Day. That backed off some teams, but Chicago wasn't one of them. "We felt very comfortable that this was a good person who made an immature decision," said GM Phil Emery. I guess now we find out. Wilson, who turns 21 in September, has the size (he's 6-foot-3) and productivity (he averaged 17 yards a catch in three years) you like, and with Devin Hester out of the mix he fits a need at wide receiver. But the Bears don't need a head case, and it's up to Wilson to prove he doesn't qualify.
 
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If Dobson was on a team that ran a lot more 2-WR sets, like Oregon State, I can guarantee his production would much better. There were a lot of options in Marshall and his QB simply chose not to force the ball to Dobson. Does anyone seriously think Antavious Wilson and Tommy Shuler are better players? You've probably never even heard of them. Didn't think so.
I find it hard to believe that Dobson was wide open all the time yet his QB completed twice as many passes to another WR (Shuler). Spread or not, he still only caught 24% of the passes to the top 3 receivers.

Dobson led the team in catches twice in four year and he was also outplayed by Wilson twice (FR and SR years). He might have even been outplayed his SO and JR years too had Wilson not been injured.

 
If Dobson was on a team that ran a lot more 2-WR sets, like Oregon State, I can guarantee his production would much better. There were a lot of options in Marshall and his QB simply chose not to force the ball to Dobson. Does anyone seriously think Antavious Wilson and Tommy Shuler are better players? You've probably never even heard of them. Didn't think so.
I find it hard to believe that Dobson was wide open all the time yet his QB completed twice as many passes to another WR (Shuler). Spread or not, he still only caught 24% of the passes to the top 3 receivers.

Dobson led the team in catches twice in four year and he was also outplayed by Wilson twice (FR and SR years). He might have even been outplayed his SO and JR years too had Wilson not been injured.
I never said he was wide open all the time. QBs do throw to covered WRs.

Can you answer yes to my question? I didn't think so.

 
Sabertooth said:
I agree. I trust Belichick and company more than EBF or FBG. I am not expecting Moss. But perhaps a Vincent Jackson or Sidney Rice type of player is possible. Hoodie grabbed Dobson with Allen, Wheaton, Bailey, Goodwin, Rogers, and Williams still on the board. Not to mention Josh Boyce. He saw a fit there. And if he didn't have a fit in mind, all the better that means Dobson was his BPA.
He also grabbed Taylor Price with Mike Williams and Antonio Brown still on the board.

And he grabbed Brandon Tate with Julian Edelman, Brian Hartline, and Austin Collie still on the board.

And he grabbed Matt Slater with Pierre Garcon still on the board.

And he grabbed Chad Jackson with Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall, and Marques Colston still on the board.

And he grabbed Bethel Johnson with Anquan Boldin, Nate Burleson, and Brandon Lloyd still on the board.

In fact, the only WR he's ever drafted that he really ever used enough to be fantasy relevant was Deion Branch.
That's all true. He whiffed on a few, doesn't mean he did or didn't whiff on Dobson.

 
Sabertooth said:
I agree. I trust Belichick and company more than EBF or FBG. I am not expecting Moss. But perhaps a Vincent Jackson or Sidney Rice type of player is possible. Hoodie grabbed Dobson with Allen, Wheaton, Bailey, Goodwin, Rogers, and Williams still on the board. Not to mention Josh Boyce. He saw a fit there. And if he didn't have a fit in mind, all the better that means Dobson was his BPA.
He also grabbed Taylor Price with Mike Williams and Antonio Brown still on the board.And he grabbed Brandon Tate with Julian Edelman, Brian Hartline, and Austin Collie still on the board.And he grabbed Matt Slater with Pierre Garcon still on the board.And he grabbed Chad Jackson with Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall, and Marques Colston still on the board.And he grabbed Bethel Johnson with Anquan Boldin, Nate Burleson, and Brandon Lloyd still on the board. In fact, the only WR he's ever drafted that he really ever used enough to be fantasy relevant was Deion Branch.
That's all true. He whiffed on a few, doesn't mean he did or didn't whiff on Dobson.
It also means that "Bill Belichick liked him enough to pick him" isn't any kind of special endorsement to build an argument around. And whiffed on a few? He basically whiffed on all of them.
 
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Sabertooth said:
I agree. I trust Belichick and company more than EBF or FBG. I am not expecting Moss. But perhaps a Vincent Jackson or Sidney Rice type of player is possible. Hoodie grabbed Dobson with Allen, Wheaton, Bailey, Goodwin, Rogers, and Williams still on the board. Not to mention Josh Boyce. He saw a fit there. And if he didn't have a fit in mind, all the better that means Dobson was his BPA.
He also grabbed Taylor Price with Mike Williams and Antonio Brown still on the board.

And he grabbed Brandon Tate with Julian Edelman, Brian Hartline, and Austin Collie still on the board.

And he grabbed Matt Slater with Pierre Garcon still on the board.

And he grabbed Chad Jackson with Greg Jennings, Brandon Marshall, and Marques Colston still on the board.

And he grabbed Bethel Johnson with Anquan Boldin, Nate Burleson, and Brandon Lloyd still on the board.

In fact, the only WR he's ever drafted that he really ever used enough to be fantasy relevant was Deion Branch.
That's all true. He whiffed on a few, doesn't mean he did or didn't whiff on Dobson.
Not the point being made. You're citing Bellichik as the reason to believe, there's a laundry list of reasons to believe otherwise. Bellichik's record of scouting college prospects at WR and DB is terrible.

 
I guess we'll see. And I realize I am changing tune a bit, but I feel like I need to go a bit deeper into my thought process here.

First, it isn't like everyone else said Chad Jackson was undraftable or even a 5th round talent. But it turns out, he wasn't worthy of being drafted in any round really. Same goes for Price and Tate. I for one remember being pissed that the Packers traded out of that Chad Jackson spot and "reached" for Greg Jennings. Oops.

His record with FA wideouts isn't spectacular either, then he hit on Wes Welker.

Point being if Dobson does hit....he'll hit to the tune of "every week fantasy starter." If Wheaton or Bailey hit, they still might not be worthy of that title. For instance, Emmanuel Sanders "hit" in that he wasn't a bust, he isn't relevant though. He's a "justaguy."

WR1 New England is a valuable commodity in dynasty league. Look at the hoopla over Brandon Lloyd last year. It just is, at least until Brady hang up the cleats. After the top few guys I think that shooting for the 23 year old WR1 in New England is at least something worthwhile. Probably more valuable than the WR2 in Minnesota or Tennessee.

 
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Which offensive rookies will make the biggest impact in 2013?
By Will Brinson | NFL Writer
May 17, 2013 12:00 pm ET
This wasn't the sexiest draft for youngsters on the offensive side of the ball: one quarterback taken in the first round, a heavy run on offensive linemen, the first year since 1963 with no running back taken in the first round, and a slew of wide receivers who all have question marks.

If we sit back and compare this coming season to 2012, 2013 is going to look flat-out awful when we talk about offensive rookies who make an impact. Though we'll see guys emerge who play a big role for their teams, there won't be any holy triumvirate of Russell Wilson/Andrew Luck/Robert Griffin III emerging from this draft class.

However, there are guys who'll make an impact. I've got 10 of them on the offensive side listed below (defensive players coming later), listed in order of the impact I think they'll ultimately make this season. This isn't my list of the 10 best rookies; it's a list of guys who I think will have the biggest impact for their respective teams in 2013. There are also plenty of high picks on this list; typically speaking, bad teams are more able to provide an opportunity for players to step in and make immediate contributions.

Agree, disagree, have your own list or just generally want to yell at me for leaving someone out/putting someone in? Leave your thoughts in the comments or let me know on Twitter @WillBrinson.

1. Giovani Bernard, RB, Bengals
This bandwagon, I am driving it. Good luck finding people who are as high on Bernard as I am. I think ultimately he ends up stealing the every-down role from BenJarvus Green-Ellis and winning the Offensive Rookie of the Year award. Why is that exactly? Because Bernard can make an impact in multiple facets of the game. He's not a scatback, he's what Pete Prisco likes to call an "air back." Bernard's capable of getting out in space and generating big plays, he can be a feature runner when they need him to be, he's a dynamic pass-catching back (92 catches in 2011 and 2012 at North Carolina) and he's a force on special teams as well (ask former NC State coach Tom O'Brien about his punt-returning skills). Color me all in on Gio blowing up for the Bengals.

2. Tavon Austin, WR, Rams
The hype for Austin leading up to the NFL Draft was out of control, but it was very much worth it. Austin's one of the new-aged movable chess-piece type of offensive players who can be a devastating weapon for a creative offensive coordinator. Looking at the Rams setup on O, it's clear they'll be improved: Sam Bradford finally has blindside protection in the form of Jake Long, tight end Jared Cook was a primo addition in free agency, Brian Quick and Chris Givens should continue to develop, and St. Louis picked up Austin's West Virginia teammate Stedman Bailey in the draft. Not forcing Austin to be a true "No. 1" wideout in his first season, making teams guard other guys and giving him the rock in various places all over the field -- including out of running sets -- will maximize his effectiveness and make him a strong candidate for ROY.

3.Le'Veon Bell, RB, Steelers
Bell's an interesting case in talent vs. opportunity when it comes to making an impact as a rookie. Looking at what he did while at Michigan State, he really doesn't stand out as anything more than a plodder. Bell's not going to come in and become a dominant running back in the NFL right away. But he is likely to see a ton of touches on a Pittsburgh team with few other options in the backfield. Only Jonathan Dwyer and Isaac Redman represent competition for Bell, which means even if he doesn't win the starting job, he's going to end up getting a ton of touches. If Bell wins the job, which I think he will, he'll carry it 300 times next year. That's a major impact regardless of your talent level.

4. DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Texans
I look at this match and I can't help but think Hopkins is stepping into a pretty perfect situation for success. He'll be lined up across from All-Pro wideout Andre Johnson (who was the last wideout taken by Houston in the first round, a decade ago), which means not facing No. 1 corners. With the departure of Kevin Walter, there's no one else on a razor-thin depth chart to challenge Hopkins for playing time and reps on the field, which means the opportunity is there. Hopkins has sure hands and runs good routes, which means he should quickly gain Matt Schaub's trust. And Johnson isn't the only distraction for opposing defenses; having Arian Foster and Ben Tate provide one of the most stout running back combos in the NFL means secondaries have to key on stopping the rush as well. Friend of the site Lance Zierlein (of the SidelineView.com) also notes that Hopkins looked incredibly impressive at rookie minicamp.

5. Jonathan Cooper, OG, Cardinals
It's counter-intuitive to think that an offensive guard on a bad offensive line is going to make an immediate impact for a team in a division featuring three extremely dangerous defenses. But Cooper is talented and athletic enough to make a difference immediately, and you can't understate the importance of what an improvement at guard will mean for the Cardinals. Cooper's presence will shore up the left side of the line with Levi Brown at tackle and that in turn makes life easier for everyone on the line, including Bobby Massie on the right side, who improved over the course of 2012. It's a trickle-down effect that will result in Carson Palmer having more time in the pocket and could result in another rookie -- running back Andre Ellington -- becoming an important piece of the offense, particularly in the screen game, where Cooper excels in blocking.

6. Eric Fisher, OT, Chiefs
Crazy to think the No. 1 overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft is going to play right tackle, huh? But let's not discount Fisher's value too much because he's playing the tackle position perceived as less important on the line. For one, Fisher's ability to shore up protection for Alex Smith is critical. Smith was far more successful with the 49ers when he was protected (just like most quarterbacks!) by their stout line. For two, it looks like we'll be seeing some Pistol action from the Chiefs featuring Smith and Jamaal Charles (Fantasy owners: commence drooling), and pulling that off will require plenty of athleticism on the offensive line, which is exactly what Fisher brings. It doesn't hurt matters that Fisher is a perfect fit for the type of screen and short-pass-heavy attack that Andy Reid will use Charles in. And, of course, there's no guarantee left tackle Branden Albert stays healthy the entire season. Fisher could find himself protecting Smith's blindside at any moment.

7. Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Vikings
Patterson is raw and only has one year of production at the college level, but, man, his ability to make plays with the ball in his hands is intriguing. Patterson, like Austin, can also score in a variety of ways; he carried the ball at Tennessee and was a special-teams dynamo. It's highly likely the Vikings believe he can replace Percy Harvin in that phase of their game next year and keep the special teams unit from missing much with Harvin's loss. There's a reasonable chance they're right. I think there's a reasonable chance Patterson is used in a similar way to Austin too. Instead of asking him to do "traditional" wideout things, Minnesota will have him operate as more of a playmaker. If they're smart, that's what they'll do anyway.

8. Luke Joeckel, OT, Jaguars
You know what's even crazier than the top pick being used as a right tackle? The top TWO picks being used as right tackles. Joeckel is going to play on a bad team, but that doesn't mean he can't have a big impact. Plugging him in on the right side accomplishes a few things for the Jaguars. It improves their protection of Blaine Gabbert (Joeckel will be asked to block J.J. Watt, so have fun with that rook) and gives them a chance to fairly evaluate Gabbert's ability to play when he doesn't have excuses like no receivers and no protection. Joeckel improves the Jaguars running game as well; Maurice Jones-Drew and, hopefully, Denard Robinson will both find themselves with bigger holes to run through. The Jags' top pick also gives them flexibility when it comes to the future of Eugene Monroe, who's entering the final year of his contract (in the unlikely event Monroe leaves, Dave Caldwell isn't without a franchise left tackle). I don't expect Jacksonville to win a lot of games next year -- does anyone? -- but I do expect them to improve because of an offense that can stay on the field longer, and that should be a direct result of Joeckel slotting in on the right side of the line.

9. E.J. Manuel, QB, Bills
Really tempted to put either Geno Smith or Tyler Wilson on this list. But I'm not because Geno isn't guaranteed to win the Jets job. Saying the Jets have a dearth of playmakers is like saying outer space lacks oxygen and Wilson has the longest shot to start, even if I really want to get bold and throw him on here. Instead, Manuel's the choice and not because I love the Bills decision to select him. I do, however, like that he'll basically be handed this job unless Kevin Kolb performs ridiculously well leading into the season. That equates to impact. Manuel also has a nice group of weapons in Buffalo. C.J. Spiller is as a dynamic running back as there is in the NFL and can greatly impact the passing game, therefore easing Manuel's burden. Stevie Johnson isn't a true No. 1 wideout, but he's a much better option than other teams present. T.J. Graham is an underrated speedster who can be a deep threat. (Off topic: If I change my name to W.J. Brinson, will the Bills draft me next year?). Marques Goodwin is somehow even faster. Robert Woods is a perfect complement as a strong possession receiver. Buffalo's not trotting out the Broncos receiving corps or anything, but they've got a fast and potentially dangerous group. Add in Spiller and Fred Jackson, and Manuel will have a shot to make an impact.

10. Eddie Lacy/Johnathan Franklin, RBs, Packers
Is it cheating to include the two guys Ted Thompson drafted instead of picking one to blow up? Maybe. But it's my list, so whatever. If I had to guess, I'd say it's Lacy that makes a bigger impact, but mainly because of his ability to block in the passing game -- carrying the ball is critical for the Packers' new backs, but being able to add an additional layer of protection for Aaron Rodgers might be an even bigger job. Franklin can fill the role too, and Thompson's decision to draft him speaks to the serious concerns with Lacy's immediate health. But maybe it also speaks to value and Thompson zigging when others zag. The reason they're lower is a lack of clarity on both guys' injury status as well as the fact that we don't know who will get the majority of touches, if anyone even does.

Honorable Mention: Denard Robinson, RB, Jaguars:
If Robinson was going to see 10-15 *touches* per game, he'd be somewhere on the middle of this list. But 10-15 *snaps*? It'll be difficult for him to make an impact in that situation, which is a shame, because giving him those kind of touches would result in some electricity.
 
That group just screams pedestrian to me. Bernard is going to be in some sort of a committee. Austin is going to be Desean Jackson without the off-the-field issues. Heck Brinson even calls his #3 rookie a plodder. Which he is.

This is still a draft where I want to slide back and accumulate picks in 2014 and beyond. I've done so many times and continue to attempt further trade backs. Just not feeling it.

The guys I like are scattered. I like Zac Stacy because of his opportunity. I like Chris Harper because of his size and upside.

Of the quarterbacks I like E.J. Manuel but he's 50/50 to be a bust and out of the league in 4 or 5 years. I like Barkley at his value and think he gets a start or starts this season or next.. I also like Tyler Wilson and Ryan Nassib as long term stashes. Wilson is good enough to unseat Matt Flynn who simply can't catch a break. But I keep coming back to Nassib being rated as a top 10 possibility then sliding down to the 4th round, where the Giants traded up to get him. I bet they had a 2nd round grade on him. This is the type of organization where he sits for 2 or 3 years and then emerges ala Rodgers. Eli is no spring chicken and just doesn't seem to have the passion for the game of a Favre or Peyton. Coughlin doesn't really strike me as the sentimental sort so when Eli's skills erode, he'll be shown the exit.

Geno Smith is going to wash out I think. He reminds me of Jeff George with his attitude but lacks the draft pedigree to stick around into his 30s.

I like Eddie Lacy but I totally see a Ridley/Vereen situation in that the later draft picks outshined and outperforms the earlier pick. Lacy reminds me of Mendenhall. And I think his career will follow a similar path. A good player but not great. I think Johnathan Franklin is going to be the best running back in this glass, although I believe his production will be more in line with the Warrick Dunn than Lesean McCoy.

Da'Rick Rogers is interesting although I think his $.10 head is going to cause him to wash out. I give him a 10% shot at hitting. If he hits, I think we are seeing the second coming of Tampa Mike.

I like Christine Michael quite a bit but you have to be patient. I think he'll be cheaper next offseason than he is this offseason. I think his value jumps dramatically from 2014-2015 when Marshawn is shown the door (speculation).

Marcus Lattimore, love his attitude. People are thinking he's another Frank Gore, I disagree. I think his knee is ruined. I think he's another Kijana Carter. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see rostering him before the 20th pick in rookie drafts. His payoff, if it ever comes, will be several years down the road. I'd rather trade back in the draft and load that pick into next season when you can take a healthy player in a better situation.

 
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Marcus Lattimore, love his attitude. People are thinking he's another Frank Gore, I disagree. I think his knee is ruined. I think he's another Kijana Carter. I hope I'm wrong but I can't see rostering him before the 20th pick in rookie drafts. His paying, if it ever comes, will be several years down the road. I'd rather trade back in the draft and load that pick into next season when you can take a healthy player in a better situation.
The 49ers don't think his knee is ruined and drafted him over everyone's darling Zac Stacy. From what I've seen, recovery from knee injuries today is dependent on one thing - dedication to rehab. Lattimore has that as much as anyone I've seen.

 
I think the 49ers took the gamble only because they had so many picks and only so many roster spots. He'll go on the IR and thus not cost them a roster spot. If he hits, great for them because they get to circumvent the roster restrictions. If he doesn't hit, no biggie because he doesn't cost them anything at all (except a few hundred grand). He is a no brainer in that respect especially for a loaded team that is already loaded at the position. He is a luxury pick, nothing more.

I don't love Zac Stacy but I do think he's got a better shot at gaining 2000 career rushing yards than Lattimore does.

 
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Bernard is going to be in some sort of a committee.
Bernard is not a finished product and he's very young at 21. I think he has Doug Martin like potential - before you laugh at that remember that Martin was 188 when he came to college and Martin was going into his junior year at Bernard's age. Ray Rice is another 21 yo guy who needed time to develop into an every day back.

 
I think the 49ers took the gamble only because they had so many picks and only so many roster spots. He'll go on the IR and thus not cost them a roster spot. If he hits, great for them because they get to circumvent the roster restrictions. If he doesn't hit, no biggie because he doesn't cost them anything at all (except a few hundred grand). He is a no brainer in that respect especially for a loaded team that is already loaded at the position. He is a luxury pick, nothing more. I don't love Zac Stacy but I do think he's got a better shot at gaining 2000 career rushing yards than Lattimore does.
So why didn't the 49ers use that luxury pick on Stacy?
 
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I think the 49ers took the gamble only because they had so many picks and only so many roster spots. He'll go on the IR and thus not cost them a roster spot. If he hits, great for them because they get to circumvent the roster restrictions. If he doesn't hit, no biggie because he doesn't cost them anything at all (except a few hundred grand). He is a no brainer in that respect especially for a loaded team that is already loaded at the position. He is a luxury pick, nothing more. I don't love Zac Stacy but I do think he's got a better shot at gaining 2000 career rushing yards than Lattimore does.
So why didn't the 49ers use that luxury pick on Stacy?
Not sure. I think it has to do with upside and their depth at the position. If Lattimore hits he could actually start. If Stacy hits, I don't think he adds anything the 49ers don't already have in James or Hunter. In short, Lattimore's upside, although he's less likely to hit it, is greater than Stacy's. A true, swing for the fences luxury pick,

 
I think the 49ers took the gamble only because they had so many picks and only so many roster spots. He'll go on the IR and thus not cost them a roster spot. If he hits, great for them because they get to circumvent the roster restrictions. If he doesn't hit, no biggie because he doesn't cost them anything at all (except a few hundred grand). He is a no brainer in that respect especially for a loaded team that is already loaded at the position. He is a luxury pick, nothing more. I don't love Zac Stacy but I do think he's got a better shot at gaining 2000 career rushing yards than Lattimore does.
So why didn't the 49ers use that luxury pick on Stacy?
It's a lottery ticket. If it hits, Lattimore will blow Stacy out of the water.

 
Tavon Austin, Manti Te'o among instant-impact rookies in 2013By Daniel Jeremiah

Analyst, NFL.com and NFL Network

Last year's rookie class was special. Quarterbacks Andrew Luck, Robert Griffin III and Russell Wilson quickly established themselves as the faces of their respective franchises while guiding their teams to the playoffs. This year's rookie QB crop doesn't appear to have the same star power, but several other positions are loaded with first-year players who should excel this fall. With the NFL Rookie Symposium taking place this week in Aurora, Ohio, I've singled out seven newbies who are positioned to make a splash in Year 1:

1) Tavon Austin, WR, St. Louis Rams: The Rams finally made a significant effort to provide Sam Bradford with an explosive weapon in the passing attack. Austin put up video game numbers at West Virginia (logging 215 catches and 20 receiving touchdowns over the past two seasons) and he is polished enough to start from Day 1 in St. Louis. His ability to create separation underneath will be a huge asset to Bradford on third downs. Austin won't record the same numbers he posted for the Mountaineers, but he easily could surpass 70 catches in his rookie campaign.

2) Chance Warmack, OG, Tennessee Titans: Warmack joins free-agent addition Andy Levitre, giving the Titans an outstanding set of offensive guards. Young offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains will lean heavily on Chris Johnson and the rushing attack to alleviate the pressure on young signal-caller Jake Locker. Warmack's ability to maul defenders at the point of attack should provide Johnson with the necessary runway to reel off several explosive runs this season.

3) DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Houston Texans: For the past 10 seasons, Andre Johnson has been as productive as just about any wide receiver in the NFL. He's caught more than 800 balls and eclipsed 11,000 receiving yards. That's quite impressive, considering he's never had a legitimate No. 2 wideout to keep opposing defenses honest. Enter Hopkins. The former Clemson receiver broke the ACC's single-season record for receiving touchdowns with 18 last fall and his combination of short-area quickness and ball skills will be a welcome addition to the Texans' passing attack. He should start right away and post 60-plus catches during his rookie campaign.

4) Darius Slay, CB, Detroit Lions: The Lions selected defensive end Ziggy Ansah with the fifth overall pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, but I believe another rookie defender will have a bigger impact in Detroit. Slay is incredibly explosive (4.36-second time in the 40-yard dash) and has impressive ball skills, as evidenced by his five interceptions last fall. He should nail down a starting position during training camp, and I expect him to improve throughout his rookie season. I won't be surprised if Slay matches the five picks he recorded during his final college campaign.

5) Manti Te'o, LB, San Diego Chargers: Te'o was one of the most scrutinized non-quarterback draft prospects I can ever remember. With a poor showing against Alabama in the BCS title game, the off-field drama of the girlfriend hoax and an uninspiring 40 time at the NFL Scouting Combine, Te'o drew constant criticism from early January to late April. However, he ultimately landed in the perfect situation with the Chargers. Te'o will line up behind an underrated defensive line, and his fellow inside backer, Donald Butler, will complement his style of play. Te'o was durable (49 starts) and productive (437 career tackles) during his college career, and I expect nothing less during his rookie year.

6) Le'Veon Bell, RB, Pittsburgh Steelers: The Steelers are desperate to improve their rushing attack after ranking 26th in 2012, and Bell is just the man for the job. He led the Big Ten with 1,793 rushing yards last fall and showcased the ability to carry a heavy load by toting the ball 382 times. He doesn't possess home-run speed, but I love his vision, balance and power. He is also very effective in the passing game as both a blocker and receiver. Bell is clearly the most talented runner on Pittsburgh's roster and he should emerge as the primary ball carrier very early in the upcoming season.

7) Vance McDonald, TE, San Francisco 49ers: McDonald was drafted to fill the void created by Delanie Walker's departure in the offseason. However, after the unfortunate injury to Michael Crabtree, McDonald's role could be much larger in the upcoming season. Vernon Davis has spent time practicing as a wide receiver to help offset the loss of Crabtree; this could lead to more snaps for McDonald. His college production wasn't eye-popping (36 catches and two touchdowns in 2012), but the rookie's physical tools are tough to ignore. He has the size (6-foot-4, 267 pounds) and explosiveness (4.69 40 time) to develop into a complete tight end. This is a case of talent meeting opportunity and it could result in surprising rookie production from this second-rounder.

Follow Daniel Jeremiah on Twitter @MoveTheSticks.
 
Top 15 Fantasy Football Rookies in 2013

By Braden Gall, 5/3/13, 12:15 PM EDT

Athlon looks at the top fantasy football rookies for the 2013 season following the NFL Draft.

Doug Martin (1,454) and Trent Richardson (950) were No. 2 and 3 among all rookie NFL running backs last year in rushing yards. They were both first-round picks and played as such in their first season.

Alfred Morris (1,613) led all rookies after being drafted in the sixth round. Vick Ballard (814) was a fifth-round pick and was No. 4 among all rookies. Bryce Brown (564) was fifth among all rookie runners and he was a seventh-round selection.

Justin Blackmon (865 yds, 5 TD), Kendall Wright (626 yds, 4 TD) and Michael Floyd (562 yds, 2 TD) were No. 1, No. 4 and No. 5 in receiving yards among rookies and all were first-round picks. But T.Y. Hilton (861 yds, 7 TD) and Chris Givens (698 yds, 3 TD) were No. 2 and 3 respectively as third- and fourth-round picks in the 2012 NFL Draft.

The point of this exercise is to prove that fantasy production doesn’t always come from first-round picks.

So who are the top 15 fantasy rookies from the 2013 NFL Draft?

1. Montee Ball, RB, Denver

The Wisconsin running back was the most productive college fantasy running back ever. No player in the history of the sport scored more touchdowns — 77 rushing and 83 total — than the Badgers back. And now Peyton Manning is his quarterback and he will be running behind, much like in college, one of the best O-lines in the game. Knowshon Moreno, Ronnie Hillman and/or Willis McGahee are not concerns as none have the workhorse skill set of Ball — and his 983 career NCAA touches.

2. Tavon Austin, WR, St. Louis

The most dynamic weapon in the draft this year was easily the speedster from West Virginia. Is workload and durability a concern for the 5-foot-9, 175-pounder? Certainly, but his speed, big-play ability and chance to play right away are fantasy gold. He will run the ball and return kicks as well as catch passes, so his chances of starting right away are all but assured.

3. Giovani Bernard, RB, Cincinnati

Bernard might be the most talented running back in the draft not named Marcus Lattimore. In just two college seasons — which means there is plenty of tread left on the tires — Bernard proved he could do it all. He rarely takes a big hit, is an excellent receiver, has elite open field speed and quickness, can return kicks and picks up the blitz. It means he should get upwards of 200 touches as the Bengals phase out the aging BenJarvus Green-Ellis.

4. DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Houston

The Clemson product has a big frame and is in a perfect situation. Is he overly explosive with game-changing speed? No, but he is productive and will be learning from one of the game’s greatest in Andre Johnson. The “situation” is perfect as the running game and other receivers (namely, Johnson) will take most of the focus from the defense. Hopkins should be in the starting lineup in Week 1 and that should provide adequate low WR2, high WR3 numbers.

5. Keenan Allen, WR, San Diego

Few pure outside wide receivers are as polished and talented as the junior from Cal. An elite five-star prospect from North Carolina, Allen was an instant star as a freshman. He posted big numbers despite getting little support from quarterback and half brother Zach Maynard (58.2 percent completion rate, 37 career INT). He has elite ball skills, a natural understanding of the position, prototypical size and Philip Rivers throwing him passes instead of his sibling. Vincent Brown, Robert Meachem, Danario Alexander and Malcolm Floyd are nice players but Allen is the most gifted wideout on the roster the second he shows up to camp.

6. Eddie Lacy, RB, Green Bay

The Alabama running back steps into a great situation because he won’t be asked to carry the load. That is a good thing in that defenses will focus on No. 12 in Green Bay but it limits his fantasy upside because he is more likely to be in the 200-touch range as opposed to the 270-touch range. That said, he should get the first and second down carries as well as goal line looks. Had Johnathan Franklin not been added later in the draft, Lacy might have been No. 1 on this list.

7. Le’Veon Bell, RB, Pittsburgh

From a situational standpoint, few rookies step into a bigger workload than Bell. He appears to be the starter right away in Pittsburgh and will be playing behind a solid offensive line and quality quarterback. Yet, the issue that will keep Bell’s fantasy value down might be his overall lack of talent. He isn’t overly explosive or quick and will have to work for every yard he gets. A sub-4.0 yards per carry and 6-8 touchdowns feels about right. A quality RB3.

8. Tyler Eifert, TE, Cincinnati

A shot was certainly fired across Jermaine Gresham's and Orson Charles' bow with this first-round pick. The clear-cut most talented and productive tight end in the draft lands in a great situation as Andy Dalton and his deep and talented supporting cast of receivers will take away focus. Look for plenty of two-tight end packages in Cincinnati making Eifert a fringe weekly starter in deeper leagues.

9. Stepfan Taylor, RB, Arizona

Taylor was wildly underrated on “draft day” and could be a sneaky good fantasy play in 2013. He has workhorse talents inside and out of the tackles, can catch passes, pick up the blitz and rarely makes mistakes. He won’t get the start right away but he will force his way onto the field with his overall dependability.

10. Johnathan Franklin, RB, Green Bay

Few “third down” backs have first and second down capabilities but that is what Franklin can do. The Mayor of L.A. has speed, toughness, hands, leadership, productivity and overall play-making skill. He will be a change-of-pace back for Lacy at first but could force Mike McCarthy to split the carries more evenly. UCLA’s all-time leading rusher should be a late-round target for everyone.

11. EJ Manuel, QB, Buffalo

Heady, hard-working dual-threat is the only QB with fantasy upside in 2013.

12. Robert Woods, WR, Buffalo

Undersized but elite talent with huge numbers in college and should play right away.

13. Terrance Williams, WR, Dallas

Polished player should finish the year as clear-cut No. 2 to Dez Bryant. Great situation.

14. Markus Wheaton, WR, Pittsburgh

Dynamic do-everything type who will be used all over the field right out of the gate.

15. Josh Boyce, WR, New England

Big-play threat can play inside or out. Is much more talented/dynamic than Aaron Dobson.

Honorable Mention: Marcus Lattimore, RB, San Francisco

For you keeper GMs, there will be no such thing as too early for Lattimore. He likely won’t play much in 2013 but could be activated to contribute late in the season. When healthy, he is easily the most talented runner in this class and the Niners were the perfect landing spot for him to rehab and, eventually, explode in 2014.

Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Minnesota

Geno Smith, QB, NY Jets

Zach Ertz, TE, Philadelphia

Joseph Randle, RB, Dallas

Matt Barkley, QB, Philadelphia
 
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Top 15 Fantasy Football Rookies in 2013

By Braden Gall, 5/3/13, 12:15 PM EDT

Athlon looks at the top fantasy football rookies for the 2013 season following the NFL Draft.

Doug Martin (1,454) and Trent Richardson (950) were No. 2 and 3 among all rookie NFL running backs last year in rushing yards. They were both first-round picks and played as such in their first season.

Alfred Morris (1,613) led all rookies after being drafted in the sixth round. Vick Ballard (814) was a fifth-round pick and was No. 4 among all rookies. Bryce Brown (564) was fifth among all rookie runners and he was a seventh-round selection.

Justin Blackmon (865 yds, 5 TD), Kendall Wright (626 yds, 4 TD) and Michael Floyd (562 yds, 2 TD) were No. 1, No. 4 and No. 5 in receiving yards among rookies and all were first-round picks. But T.Y. Hilton (861 yds, 7 TD) and Chris Givens (698 yds, 3 TD) were No. 2 and 3 respectively as third- and fourth-round picks in the 2012 NFL Draft.

The point of this exercise is to prove that fantasy production doesn’t always come from first-round picks.

So who are the top 15 fantasy rookies from the 2013 NFL Draft?

1. Montee Ball, RB, Denver

The Wisconsin running back was the most productive college fantasy running back ever. No player in the history of the sport scored more touchdowns — 77 rushing and 83 total — than the Badgers back. And now Peyton Manning is his quarterback and he will be running behind, much like in college, one of the best O-lines in the game. Knowshon Moreno, Ronnie Hillman and/or Willis McGahee are not concerns as none have the workhorse skill set of Ball — and his 983 career NCAA touches.

2. Tavon Austin, WR, St. Louis

The most dynamic weapon in the draft this year was easily the speedster from West Virginia. Is workload and durability a concern for the 5-foot-9, 175-pounder? Certainly, but his speed, big-play ability and chance to play right away are fantasy gold. He will run the ball and return kicks as well as catch passes, so his chances of starting right away are all but assured.

3. Giovani Bernard, RB, Cincinnati

Bernard might be the most talented running back in the draft not named Marcus Lattimore. In just two college seasons — which means there is plenty of tread left on the tires — Bernard proved he could do it all. He rarely takes a big hit, is an excellent receiver, has elite open field speed and quickness, can return kicks and picks up the blitz. It means he should get upwards of 200 touches as the Bengals phase out the aging BenJarvus Green-Ellis.

4. DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Houston

The Clemson product has a big frame and is in a perfect situation. Is he overly explosive with game-changing speed? No, but he is productive and will be learning from one of the game’s greatest in Andre Johnson. The “situation” is perfect as the running game and other receivers (namely, Johnson) will take most of the focus from the defense. Hopkins should be in the starting lineup in Week 1 and that should provide adequate low WR2, high WR3 numbers.

5. Keenan Allen, WR, San Diego

Few pure outside wide receivers are as polished and talented as the junior from Cal. An elite five-star prospect from North Carolina, Allen was an instant star as a freshman. He posted big numbers despite getting little support from quarterback and half brother Zach Maynard (58.2 percent completion rate, 37 career INT). He has elite ball skills, a natural understanding of the position, prototypical size and Philip Rivers throwing him passes instead of his sibling. Vincent Brown, Robert Meachem, Danario Alexander and Malcolm Floyd are nice players but Allen is the most gifted wideout on the roster the second he shows up to camp.

6. Eddie Lacy, RB, Green Bay

The Alabama running back steps into a great situation because he won’t be asked to carry the load. That is a good thing in that defenses will focus on No. 12 in Green Bay but it limits his fantasy upside because he is more likely to be in the 200-touch range as opposed to the 270-touch range. That said, he should get the first and second down carries as well as goal line looks. Had Johnathan Franklin not been added later in the draft, Lacy might have been No. 1 on this list.

7. Le’Veon Bell, RB, Pittsburgh

From a situational standpoint, few rookies step into a bigger workload than Bell. He appears to be the starter right away in Pittsburgh and will be playing behind a solid offensive line and quality quarterback. Yet, the issue that will keep Bell’s fantasy value down might be his overall lack of talent. He isn’t overly explosive or quick and will have to work for every yard he gets. A sub-4.0 yards per carry and 6-8 touchdowns feels about right. A quality RB3.

8. Tyler Eifert, TE, Cincinnati

A shot was certainly fired across Jermaine Gresham's and Orson Charles' bow with this first-round pick. The clear-cut most talented and productive tight end in the draft lands in a great situation as Andy Dalton and his deep and talented supporting cast of receivers will take away focus. Look for plenty of two-tight end packages in Cincinnati making Eifert a fringe weekly starter in deeper leagues.

9. Stepfan Taylor, RB, Arizona

Taylor was wildly underrated on “draft day” and could be a sneaky good fantasy play in 2013. He has workhorse talents inside and out of the tackles, can catch passes, pick up the blitz and rarely makes mistakes. He won’t get the start right away but he will force his way onto the field with his overall dependability.

10. Johnathan Franklin, RB, Green Bay

Few “third down” backs have first and second down capabilities but that is what Franklin can do. The Mayor of L.A. has speed, toughness, hands, leadership, productivity and overall play-making skill. He will be a change-of-pace back for Lacy at first but could force Mike McCarthy to split the carries more evenly. UCLA’s all-time leading rusher should be a late-round target for everyone.

11. EJ Manuel, QB, Buffalo

Heady, hard-working dual-threat is the only QB with fantasy upside in 2013.

12. Robert Woods, WR, Buffalo

Undersized but elite talent with huge numbers in college and should play right away.

13. Terrance Williams, WR, Dallas

Polished player should finish the year as clear-cut No. 2 to Dez Bryant. Great situation.

14. Markus Wheaton, WR, Pittsburgh

Dynamic do-everything type who will be used all over the field right out of the gate.

15. Josh Boyce, WR, New England

Big-play threat can play inside or out. Is much more talented/dynamic than Aaron Dobson.

Honorable Mention: Marcus Lattimore, RB, San Francisco

For you keeper GMs, there will be no such thing as too early for Lattimore. He likely won’t play much in 2013 but could be activated to contribute late in the season. When healthy, he is easily the most talented runner in this class and the Niners were the perfect landing spot for him to rehab and, eventually, explode in 2014.

Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Minnesota

Geno Smith, QB, NY Jets

Zach Ertz, TE, Philadelphia

Joseph Randle, RB, Dallas

Matt Barkley, QB, Philadelphia
Not the worst list, but there are a few wacky picks.

If you're going to rank Lacy at #6, I don't think you can have Franklin at #10. Green Bay isn't some kind of rushing juggernaut. There aren't enough carries to go around for both of them. Whoever wins the job will likely have good value. Whoever loses will be pretty irrelevant. I favor Lacy in that battle and I rank him pretty highly among this rookie class for redraft outlook.

Not really buying this writer's Terrance Williams love. Dallas has two good starters at WR and no need to thrust him into the lineup right away. Even if he pans out and becomes a great pro (doubtful), it almost certainly won't happen in year one. Boyce and Wheaton have a lot more immediate opportunity given the state of their respective WR groups.

 


2013 NFL Draft: Tyler Wilson, Geno Smith top quarterbacks

By Josh Norris NFL.com

Draft Analyst

With the 2013 NFL Draft set for April 25-27 at Radio City Music Hall in New York, NFL.com draft analyst Josh Norris is identifying the top prospects available at every position. Today, he presents an overview of the best quarterbacks. For a complete list of the rest of the positions, click here.

Let me start by saying these quarterback rankings are not reactionary. I've felt the same way about the top four since the end of the 2012 season, with Tyler Wilson holding on to his No. 1 spot since summer evaluations. I know the Arkansas product is not a popular choice when it comes to picking the best quarterback in the 2013 NFL Draft class. However, as we've seen in every single draft, prospects who are selected later than others can often emerge as better players.

I believe the paramount trait a quarterback must possess is an ability to make things happen in the face of pressure and in confined space. Turn on any tape of Wilson and you'll see him take a pounding from opposing pass rushers, get up and move on to the next play. That is not to say that Wilson was prone to taking sacks; quite the contrary. However, he will take a hit to ensure his receiver has enough time to create a sliver of separation. There were also plenty of instances in which Wilson bought himself time and tested vertically after scanning the field for open targets. Such aggressiveness and toughness -- important factors when looking for a quality starter -- are uncommon among quarterback prospects.

Wilson is not perfect. He's been known to have footwork issues, force passes to a single target (Cobi Hamilton in 2012) or loft attempts to receivers in double coverage. But considering his ability to change throwing platforms, recognize open receivers, accurately distribute the ball and take punishment in the pocket, I have Wilson atop my list.

I like Geno Smith as a prospect quite a bit, as you can see from his ranking here. However, he is not quite the complete package he has been made out to be. There are things I like when watching Smith in the pocket, but too often, he has looked slow in his reads after locking on to an initial target. He also has a tendency to hop in his drops and drift from pressure, though these issues likely won't doom him, since he did not flash them in every game. Of course, this ranking has nothing to do with Smith off the field; it's only about things he can do to improve on it.

1. Tyler Wilson, Arkansas: I don't expect Wilson to be among the top quarterbacks selected in April's draft, but he can be successful wherever he lands, thanks to his willingness to stick to the pocket and test vertically. There are some placement issues, but those can be fixed with improved footwork. Projection: Third round

2. Geno Smith, West Virginia: Some might call the offense Smith ran in college a gimmick. Rather than worry about that, I would isolate the throws and reads he made, as well as the poise he displayed, and consider how that all projects to the NFL. Smith did switch offenses prior to his junior season, shifting to one that focused on a smaller number of plays run in a variety of ways or sets to beat defenses. Projection: First round

3. Zac Dysert, Miami of Ohio: Dysert, who is perhaps another surprise at No. 3, has so many great qualities as a passer. Poor offensive line talent forced him to play in a four- or five-wide quick-read offense in 2012, but he still showed excellent pocket movement and vertical placement, along with an ability to throw on the run. Projection: Third round

4. Mike Glennon, N.C. State: The longer Glennon holds the ball, the more concerned I get. He's got plenty of accuracy and velocity to be successful if he lands in an offense that allows him to hit a first read after planting his back foot off of a three- or five-step drop. But as he has shown, when he's pressured on the interior, things break down quickly. Projection: Second round

5. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse: There's a lot to like about Nassib, namely his willingness to work through reads and decisively fire passes to his receivers. Though he is mobile, his pocket movement is frenetic and could put him in bad spots. Projection: Second round

6. Matt Barkley, USC: Barkley, who might make more pre-snap reads than any other quarterback in this class, will have to rely on rhythm, timing and placement to win. Though the longtime Trojan starter has struggled to buy time against pressure, he has shown nice touch when hitting receivers downfield. Projection: Second round

7. EJ Manuel, Florida State: Many love Manuel's tools, most notably a compact release and the mobility he showed when things broke down. However, against pressure, Manuel tended to fall off his throws or make very poor decisions. In that regard, there are some similarities between Manuel and Blaine Gabbert. Projection: Second round

Follow Josh Norris on Twitter @JoshNorris.
I had to bit my tongue when I read this QB ranking. I thought it was one of the worst rankings I had ever read but everyone is entitled to their own opinion.

Now that 32 teams have actually drafted, I now know this is one of the worst rankings ever written.
It obviously doesn't look good now based on where these guys got drafted, but I think it's pretty silly to criticize anyone's rankings before these guys play a single game.
I think the EJ Manuel/Blaine Gabbert comparison is ridiculous if you have watched any highlights let alone game film. EJ Manuel pocket presence is excellent. Gabberts was terrible coming out of college. I recall Hodge saying of Gabbert - if his first read is not open he automatically resorts to running.

On his highlights there are many examples of EJ Manuel delivering the ball with the pocket collapsing around him. I remember one play inparticular when Sharrif Floydd scheds a block and is barreling down on Manuel. Manuel simply fakes one way, side steps the other way and delivers the ball. Gabbert would have simply curled up in the fetal position.
I wasn't implying anything about EJ Manuel or any other QB on that list. I'm just saying it's foolish to criticize anyone's rankings before these guys play a single game. You can say that you vehemently disagree with someone's rankings, but to act like one person's rankings are objectively the worst before any of the players play a game is silly.
Whatever, then I vehemently disagree with his rankings. All his ranking, IMO, seem to be a blantant attempt to be contraversal rather than judging these prospects objectively.

According to most scouts at the senior bowl, Dysert was clearly behind Glennon and Nassib in his development. It is a huge leap of faith to say that he will end up being better than those two prospects.
:coffee: I would like to subscribe to Bizzaro Josh Norris's rankings.

 
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