Doesn't change the fact that it's against the law. If the post had been about prosecuting for breaking this law, you'd have a point, but it wasn't, and you don't.
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WR Josh Gordon, KC (15 Viewers)
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Gustavo Fring
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I just got offered Vjax and Ingram for Gordon/Hunter. I prob should take the sure thing Vjax, but going to reject it I think.
SameSongNDance
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tombonneau
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Gustavo Fring
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Not a bad trade at all, and I probably shouldn't pass it up. However, I am pretty deep at WR, so I am going to take the gamble on Gordon getting reinstated, as his upside is Calvin Johnson/Demaryius Thomas.
shadyridr
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massraider
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Craig_MiamiFL
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Welker/Ingram Gordon/F-Jax just went down in PPR redraft of mine
Henry Ford
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You don't have to be arrested in order to have done something illegal.MIMN said:In what way did Josh Gordon violate that? It talks a lot about possession, distribution, etc., correct? Please post the link to the police report showing his arrest for possession of a substance referenced in that.Henry Ford said:It's a bookmark on my desktop. But I'll still bill you for a quarter hour.Bamac said:Thanks for doing the legwork.Henry Ford said:http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr/21usc/844.htm21 u.s.c. section 844.MIMN said:Feel free to follow up with the law. I am confident that even outside those states the laws only refer to possession, sale, cultivation, and sale of paraphernalia. Just get us the facts though and educate everyone.Bamac said:Pretty sure you're wrong.dagwood said:Pretty sure its not breaking any federal laws if you use it in a state where its legal. There, now you know.
The DUI is a different story.
He tested positive for marijuana, which is relevant evidence of possession. Federal law prohibits possession.
no prosecutor anywhere would try for a possession charge based on the test results here.You don't have to be arrested in order to have done something illegal. He tested positive for marijuana, which is relevant evidence of possession. Federal law prohibits possession.MIMN said:In what way did Josh Gordon violate that? It talks a lot about possession, distribution, etc., correct? Please post the link to the police report showing his arrest for possession of a substance referenced in that.The DUI is a different story.Henry Ford said:It's a bookmark on my desktop. But I'll still bill you for a quarter hour.Bamac said:Thanks for doing the legwork.Henry Ford said:http://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/21cfr/21usc/844.htm21 u.s.c. section 844.MIMN said:Feel free to follow up with the law. I am confident that even outside those states the laws only refer to possession, sale, cultivation, and sale of paraphernalia. Just get us the facts though and educate everyone.Bamac said:Pretty sure you're wrong.dagwood said:Pretty sure its not breaking any federal laws if you use it in a state where its legal. There, now you know.
Henry Ford
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That doesn't mean he didn't break the law. And it sure as #### doesn't mean "its not breaking any federal laws if you use it in a state where its legal." which is what I was responding to when I posted the law.
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tombonneau
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Dizzy
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Pretty sure that even in "states" where legal, it is still mandated "locally" where federal law can still be the law.dagwood said:Pretty sure its not breaking any federal laws if you use it in a state where its legal. There, now you know.
Colorado for example, some towns can sell it, but not all. You can smoke it (where legal) in the privacy of your home. Smoke it walking around Rocky Mountain National Park, and you've broken the law, big fine.
P.S. As of Labor Day, Blue Dream was on sale for $287/ounce at the dispensary in Crested Butte, CO... not sure if that's a good price or not, but there you go.
az_prof
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No offense. But you are engaging in magical thinking. VJax and Ingram for Hunter (whom I like but is still more potential than reality and is the third WR in his offense) and Gordon (who is still suspended for the year) is a great deal. I don't understand why people are acting like the suspension has been lifted.
ericttspikes
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Take the money out of the equation. I'd bet 80% of the people here in the 20's and beyond "risked" their lives driving over the limit. Everyone is an idiot.
B-Deep
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sure if he was not risking his nfl career for weed i'd be less likely to call him an idiot
conversely, i had a friend who did not get a good job because he could not pass a piss test....that guy was also an idiot
so if you take the fact that since college he has continually risked his dream career just to get high, then yes, he is not an idiot. But then again, if you take out the nfl he;s a dope smoking car salesman and none of us give a crap
dagwood
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that's an excellent deal in a redraft. Doubt you will get a better offer. Whether you take it or not would be dependent upon what the rest of your roster looks like. Not a good deal in a dynasty. But that's the point I am making. Guys who own Gordon are valueing him as if he will play on Sunday. Which makes trades difficult.
bulger2holt
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No updates from Mortenson or anybody else today?
dagwood
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legal - checkPretty sure that even in "states" where legal, it is still mandated "locally" where federal law can still be the law.dagwood said:Pretty sure its not breaking any federal laws if you use it in a state where its legal. There, now you know.
Colorado for example, some towns can sell it, but not all. You can smoke it (where legal) in the privacy of your home. Smoke it walking around Rocky Mountain National Park, and you've broken the law, big fine.
P.S. As of Labor Day, Blue Dream was on sale for $287/ounce at the dispensary in Crested Butte, CO... not sure if that's a good price or not, but there you go.
better regulated - check
taxed - check
all good - check
usage relatively unchanged - check
I have JG in one league, and If I got that offer I would accept quckly before he changed his mind.
That said, with any offer, there's always the suspicion that somebody found some info that informed the offer...
dagwood
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Since there is a game scheduled...any talks or votes or updates are essentially tabled until tomorrow
bulger2holt
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salmonstud
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Vote for overhaul of the policy could come early next week according to recent reports. If Gordon is reinstated & then hit for the drunk driving & is allowed to play even 8 games after the DUI shakes out.... his value will go through the roof and that will be the time to trade him. I own him in practically ever dynasty/keeper league I'm in. I will either trade him at that point or hold him. If he never plays again I can live with that vs. trading him very low. I would kick myself if I moved him now & he comes back & plays this year.
DepthCharts
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I don't believe "talks" are tabled, simply the ability to vote is tabled as all 32 reps aren't readily available today due to a game. 30 are. We should still hear something today regarding the possibility of a vote tomorrow.
dagwood
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VaTerp
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Jason La Canfora @JasonLaCanfora 8m
NFLPA told union reps to be on standby for a potential vote on new global drug policy. Reinstatement for some suspended players on table...
NFLPA told union reps to be on standby for a potential vote on new global drug policy. Reinstatement for some suspended players on table...
dagwood
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DepthCharts
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You very well may be right, but I haven't read anything that says the NFLPA and NFL have "stopped talking today" for ANY reason (because there is a game). That's not what is being reported. All that is known is they won't vote today due to availability of ALL 32 player reps.. I expect news of some kind today regarding progress or lack thereof of the talks.
SaintsInDome2006
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Just curious - are you saying this (VJax+Ingram/Hunter) is a good move because you don't think Gordon will be Top 5 WR from the date he gets back, or because you're not sure he gets reinstated, or both? Because my thought is that VJax & Ingram will be up and down depending on the week, while Gordon is a guy that can win championships.
There hasn't been any substantive FF discussion on Gordon since around Page 37 or so. My only hesitancy is what would (will) happen with Manziel at QB.
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DepthCharts
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No, WE have been on standby. putting reps on standby is a signal of how TODAYS talks are going
Henry Ford
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You can't prove possession on the amounts in his test - honestly it leans the other way - not enough in the system to ever have been enough for possession.
tomthumb33333
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So I'm looking for opinions on the following scenario, assuming the reps vote to approve Friday it could only mean a deal had been reached. Given all the recent optimism by major news organizations its seems likely that said deal includes some strong likely hood that the 20 or so players suspensions either will or soon will be res-ended.
dagwood
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I am saying that VJax plus Ingram for Hunter and Gordon (discounted for risk of uncertainty surrounding his suspension) is a good deal today. Now whether you accept or not is dependent on the rest of your roster. If you have two other good receivers and can afford to wait for a potential home run of Gordon playing soon then you pass. If you have 0-1 good receivers and would start VJax everyday and your RB's are awful and you could really use Ingram. Then you jump at this offer.
TheDirtyWord
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Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter · 2mBoth sides, NFL and NFLPA, hoping to finalize a new drug policy tonight in which suspensions will wind up being overturned.
What is your scenario?
And, if reps vote on Friday to accept, then there is a deal.
Peyton Marino
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ONE TIIIIIIIIIIMEE
joffer
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Ditka Butkus
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DepthCharts
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Actually, let me clarify.... All we know is that "odds are" 2 of the reps wont be able to vote today. Nothing has been tabled today.
tomthumb33333
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Thanks
Both sides, NFL and NFLPA, hoping to finalize a new drug policy tonight in which suspensions will wind up being overturned.
dagwood
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My opinion.
A deal will be reached and agreed on either Friday or Tuesday. The only issue is whether the players will be reinstated this week or next.
My opinion only.
Rick James
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It's impossible for me to read Schefter tweets without hearing his voice.
Both sides, NFL and NFLPA, hoping to finalize a new drug policy tonight in which suspensions will wind up being overturned.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
So they are still only hoping..Thanks
Both sides, NFL and NFLPA, hoping to finalize a new drug policy tonight in which suspensions will wind up being overturned.
Ditka Butkus
Footballguy
I wonder if they will test all of these players prior to reinstating them..I think that would be a hoot.Thanks
Both sides, NFL and NFLPA, hoping to finalize a new drug policy tonight in which suspensions will wind up being overturned.
What do you have if you don't have hope?So they are still only hoping..Thanks
Both sides, NFL and NFLPA, hoping to finalize a new drug policy tonight in which suspensions will wind up being overturned.
TheDirtyWord
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Aren't they still being tested despite being suspended?I wonder if they will test all of these players prior to reinstating them..I think that would be a hoot.Thanks
Both sides, NFL and NFLPA, hoping to finalize a new drug policy tonight in which suspensions will wind up being overturned.
SaintsInDome2006
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This has gone from a black hole of despair, to a glimmer of light, to a Leap Of Faith into the abyss, to "a chance", to A Promise Of A Hope.So they are still only hoping..Thanks
Both sides, NFL and NFLPA, hoping to finalize a new drug policy tonight in which suspensions will wind up being overturned.
I wasn't even expecting an update today.
