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Clash of Clans (Official thread) (10 Viewers)
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sartre
Footballguy
Dickies
Footballguy
I feel I had pretty good success with giants early on, but gobs are really where you make your money.
Jayrod
Footballguy
Jayrod
Footballguy
I have also built a research lab, but don't even have the capacity for enough elixir to do any upgrades. Which of the gobs, barbs or archers are best to upgrade 1st?
One thing I REALLY want is a third builder. I've got one locked up for the day on my TH4 and the other is upgrading an elixir tank. I'd love to be working on the second elixir tank, or busting some rocks with extra gold, or something so I could get more gems quicker. I feel like I'm twiddling my thumbs sometimes waiting on a builder to get done (or my warriors to get trained). They've definitely made it so there is a lot of incentive to buy gems.
One thing I REALLY want is a third builder. I've got one locked up for the day on my TH4 and the other is upgrading an elixir tank. I'd love to be working on the second elixir tank, or busting some rocks with extra gold, or something so I could get more gems quicker. I feel like I'm twiddling my thumbs sometimes waiting on a builder to get done (or my warriors to get trained). They've definitely made it so there is a lot of incentive to buy gems.
EYLive
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
Gobs are the most valuable first upgrade troop. Later, when you open up labs at th7/8 level the archer becomes the most valuable.
And to the rest of it. Shoot the lock off your wallet, buy 15 bucks worth of gems and you can get 5 builders in relatively short order.
beer 30
Footballguy
I'm in for whatever. I hop clans but i have a local clan I help that goes to war Friday mornings (which is why I haven't been in the Boog the last few weeks) so right after the war ends on Sunday I hop to fbg1 for the war Sunday night. As long as I can get in a 2nd war along the way someplace I'd be happy but I understand getting shutout because the clan's are full. Not gonna kick either way, fbg's have treated me well in the CoC realm.
Jayrod
Footballguy
Never! I'll ruin the rest of my life if I have to play 24/7 to get what I want, but I will NEVER pay a dime for this game.
I'm kidding, of course...but I'd like to try and get the 3rd builder the old fashioned way. After that, I'll probably shell out a bit from time to time.
coyote5
Footballguy
give in... you know you want to...
culdeus
Footballguy
Well it's way more effective to pay early on than later. You will get some gems through just playing, but they won't really payoff for awhile and builder need is highest in the th5/6 range because those open up the most buildings and they are still pretty cheap.
EYLive
Footballguy
I think most of us get the 3rd builder the old fashioned way, and many of us (myself included) got the 4th builder without paying as well. With the clan war achievements and gem boxes, gaining gems is much easier than it used to be.
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VA703
Footballguy
PlasmaDogPlasma
Footballguy
They worked hard to develop the game and there's no ads in it. It's OK to give them a little money.
Jayrod
Footballguy
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Jayrod
Footballguy
This was part of my rationalization as well. Also that it would help me return to my adult duties faster if I just got a third builder and moved things along. That may backfire on me, though.
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culdeus
Footballguy
Dickies
Footballguy
Upgrade gob, barb, then archer in that order. Low level archers are not that great, but once they hit level 3 they are far more useful. Gobs should be your main focus IMHO. You don't need to destroy bases, just look for easy resources that a swarm of gobs can deplete. The builders definitely would make the game a lot faster, but it is doable without paying. I haven't spent a dime and I'm on my way to a 5th builder.
Instinctive
Footballguy
If it helps, I've been lurking and posting in the thread but haven't joined one of the FBG clans yet because I've got one with a few college buddies and friends.
We war constantly, and we're 20-1-1 in wars (yeah we had a moronic tie). Not quite FBG level, but there's usually an opportunity to honeypot with 2nd attack, which is nice.
Clan name is nightshade (really common) but our description starts with "shade of the night" hahahahaha. Fell free to hop in between the FBG clan war times.
We war constantly, and we're 20-1-1 in wars (yeah we had a moronic tie). Not quite FBG level, but there's usually an opportunity to honeypot with 2nd attack, which is nice.
Clan name is nightshade (really common) but our description starts with "shade of the night" hahahahaha. Fell free to hop in between the FBG clan war times.
Bob Loblaw
Footballguy
I haven't spent a dime either. Once I past 1250 trophies, I had enough gems to either "buy" enough DE to get my BK, or get a 4th builder. I chose the BK. I like using him as that last ditch effort for 50% when raiding, and also using him to trophy drop below 200. But I sure could use that 4th builder. I'm at about 800 gems currently, so farming trunks/shrooms/trees is the name of the game right now. Hopefully getting gems from them, and then those magical gem boxes.
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EYLive
Footballguy
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I'm somewhere in between here. One war a week is often too little (which is why I hop around) but at three wars a week, I'm a little concerned about how it'll affect my saving up for upgrades a relatively new TH8 since I plan to be able to donate good stuff soon (about to activate LVL3 dragon research).
Having three clan seems like a bit much, it would spread us very thing and require a ton of moving around for some people.
I think my personal ideal situation would be two clans - one that wars twice a week and gives preference to TH7+, then another clan that wars once a week. If the second clan needs a few people to get to 50, we schedule the wars so that people from the first can shuffle in.
No one is going to be 100% happy of course. If there's a choice between 1 time vs. 3 time I'll probably stick with 1 time until I get closer to TH9-ish area.
Having three clan seems like a bit much, it would spread us very thing and require a ton of moving around for some people.
I think my personal ideal situation would be two clans - one that wars twice a week and gives preference to TH7+, then another clan that wars once a week. If the second clan needs a few people to get to 50, we schedule the wars so that people from the first can shuffle in.
No one is going to be 100% happy of course. If there's a choice between 1 time vs. 3 time I'll probably stick with 1 time until I get closer to TH9-ish area.
John Bender
Footballguy
So...
I love having 4 builders but at town hall level 8, I can never seem to save enough to have them all working anyway.
Firstly getting my dark elixir to 10k seems impossible. There were guys with the Warrior King at th7 but I've had an elixir drill for weeks now and I've still a few thousand to go. What am I missing here?
Raiding for resources... Have we decided that sub 200 barch / gob is definitively the most effective? Where's the tutorial on getting down to 200?
I love having 4 builders but at town hall level 8, I can never seem to save enough to have them all working anyway.
Firstly getting my dark elixir to 10k seems impossible. There were guys with the Warrior King at th7 but I've had an elixir drill for weeks now and I've still a few thousand to go. What am I missing here?
Raiding for resources... Have we decided that sub 200 barch / gob is definitively the most effective? Where's the tutorial on getting down to 200?
Hawks64
Footballguy
I don't know if you can add the poll or not but I am good with 2 wars in FBG clan, it would result in less hopping back and forth between the clans.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I raid 1100-1300 range, I have the opposite problem - too much loot sitting around waiting for builders to free up. What's your current raiding strategy?
SoCalBroncoFan
Footballguy
Once you have used your two attacks, you can leave the clan and join the other one if there is some fear of missing before they declare war. You just can't check back in and see the progress of the current war. You still get your loot and credit for the war.
Hawks64
Footballguy
Getting sub 200 is a pain but relatively easy. Fire up a ton of Barbs, hit a base and drop on barb and surrender. Rinse and repeat.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I have to second the idea of having one clan that wars twice a week that gives preference to TH7+ and another that wars once a week that is for lower levels. The schedule should be scattered so that someone could participate in all three if they wanted.
And yes I'm seconding my own idea.
Just been thinking more about it and I like it.
And yes I'm seconding my own idea.
Just been thinking more about it and I like it.
John Bender
Footballguy
Well far too often it's like 9 dragons and 20 barch but I never lose and I'm Raiding up at the 1500+ trophy level.
I've tried other options but at 1500+ plus I can't nail a strategy down that works... 34 Giants with WB Gobs and Healing Spell is my other go to but is less successful.
Havent really found anything that works at +1500 without going all dragons
GregR
Footballguy
The vast majority of the people who trophy drop are the farmers. The farmers don't let their trophy count get high enough to be paired with a 450 trophy person very much.AcerFC said:
What you see are the TH4 type people attacking your collectors or giving you a shield or just too much of a newb to realize their 40 barbarians aren't enough to even dent your walls.
You'll stay in that 400-500 range for a couple of days before attacks will push you out. Very easy to just drop a few times on the newbies to stay there.
GregR
Footballguy
I swear we should just send culdeus a check for $2.00 and let him buy the gems that achievement is going to bring him.
In that range with that lineup you should be looting DE like crazy. Like, you shouldn't even attack a base with less than 800 DE.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Speaking on my own experience, multiple wars helps me get upgrades way faster (new TH8) because of the loot bonus. I'm pulling in 700+ DE and 500k+ from g/e that makes a huge difference for me. And it never costs me that much elixir or DE for a Dragon/Minion attack.
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
I also come out ahead somewhat, but that's because I don't have anything good enough to donate. I'm about to get level 3 dragons, so that will change. If I can donate something worthy, I would feel like a #### not doing so since the other top guys are so good with donating.
I usually go with like an 8 dragon attack, so that's around 250k right there. Plus the lightning spells to take out the AA guns. I mix in some of my own hogs to take some DE. So even if I get 300/300/500 from an attack, most of that is not profit. Pretty positive I get a better ROI on my time doing normal raids. If you're using a substantial number of dragon attacks I don't see how it can be a huge windfall for you (other than gold, of course). And again, once you have something to donate, assuming you donate, it will become more costly.
Again, I come out ahead, especially in gold, but I don't view raiding as a difference-maker for me.
GregR
Footballguy
Myself, I voted 2 wars a week, though for me some weeks I'll want to do 3 and others (like this week) I am fine with just 1.
I can't make up my mind, frankly, on the last option. I hate to dilute the normal troop donations too much, so voted for 2 clans. But even if we do that, I could see that changing very soon if we keep getting more people joining up, a 3rd clan would be needed anyway.
I can't make up my mind, frankly, on the last option. I hate to dilute the normal troop donations too much, so voted for 2 clans. But even if we do that, I could see that changing very soon if we keep getting more people joining up, a 3rd clan would be needed anyway.
I'm Xv Prime vX and I'm online daily(hourly) but I don't participate in clan wars because I'm usually far inferior to opponent bases. I'm only level 21.
If you need to boot me for someone more efficient, that's fine.
BostonRob
Footballguy
Yo guys, shouldn't put a warning text first?
Something like:
This game WILL ruin your life!
or
You thought Fantasy was bad, CoC will F your life up.
I mean seriously, I can't even chill anymore, always gotta check it. Even though I know I've got another day+ before next upgrade, like "you never know" perhaps the builders were fed blow and finished things up in a couple of seconds!
Something like:
This game WILL ruin your life!
or
You thought Fantasy was bad, CoC will F your life up.
I mean seriously, I can't even chill anymore, always gotta check it. Even though I know I've got another day+ before next upgrade, like "you never know" perhaps the builders were fed blow and finished things up in a couple of seconds!
D-Day
Footballguy
MindCrime
Footballguy
In for 2 wars most weeks. (Smliteguy) It all depends on what I'm in the middle of upgrading. Didn't jump to the boogaloo when I was pushing for hog 5 because of the DE drain. If I'm in a war, I want to win it, so going "no de troops" is not an option.
Some weeks I may want one, might jump into 3 other weeks, so I split the difference. I just don't want the clans diluted when we are not in war. In FBGS, there are 6 people with over 1,000 in donated troops in the past 1.5 weeks, plenty more over 500 donations. Plus guys who jumped to boog and came back, resetting their donation numbers. That's what makes us all able to push upgrades so quick. I don't want to see that end.
Some weeks I may want one, might jump into 3 other weeks, so I split the difference. I just don't want the clans diluted when we are not in war. In FBGS, there are 6 people with over 1,000 in donated troops in the past 1.5 weeks, plenty more over 500 donations. Plus guys who jumped to boog and came back, resetting their donation numbers. That's what makes us all able to push upgrades so quick. I don't want to see that end.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I can see that. I think the difference is that we don't try to win by 80 stars. Whether you win by 1 star or 30 stars, your record and your loot are the same. So we tend to believe a war is "in hand" much sooner and just barch a honeypot with the majority of our 2nd attacks. Then you get a much heavier profit.
I suppose part of it could just be the difference when you war 20 v 20 rather than 50 v 50.
