Phantom Knight
Footballguy
Sure hope you're onto something. Any chance on a late season surge on a couple of teams (redraft) where I've stubbornly held onto to him depend upon the elder statesman to start producing.
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
Sanu gets traded for a 2nd
Sanders goes for a 3rd and 4th.
The Bengals don't want to trade AJ Green in his contract year? The market says hes worth a lot according to the other trades for WR.
If they don't trade him, do they take the title of dumbest franchise from Washington?
Sanders goes for a 3rd and 4th.
The Bengals don't want to trade AJ Green in his contract year? The market says hes worth a lot according to the other trades for WR.
If they don't trade him, do they take the title of dumbest franchise from Washington?
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
I don't know, at least he is under contract for 2020 so they could always trade him in the offseason if the offers now are not good enough.
The Frankman
Footballguy
I'm stunned if he's not dealt. They're not going to resign him and now the market is drying up with some of the recent moves.
That one guy
Footballguy
Who’s left? Indy, NO, CAR, GB, BUF?
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Raiders?That one guy said:
kittenmittens
Footballguy
BUF, GB, OAK, NO, HOU (holy win now mode...)
You have to think the Patriots asked the Bengals MANY times before shipping a 2nd for Sanu?
I can't see CAR getting involved. I could see SEA checking in.
You have to think the Patriots asked the Bengals MANY times before shipping a 2nd for Sanu?
I can't see CAR getting involved. I could see SEA checking in.
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Houston, do they even have a first. Seems optimistic. They just don't need that much.
Carolina is invested in their 2 young guys DJ and Samuel.
Seattle? They're pretty deep. Have a solid rook. And they don't pass enough I think to fully benefit from trading for him.
GB OAK Buff all make the most sense by far.
shadrap
Footballguy
good gracious you know the Pats inquired if they got Sanu. Green is 10 times the receiver Sanu is. Can't believe Cinci didn't trade him to NE. I just have to believe the offer was at least a 2nd & probably higher.IMO
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Connor Hughes who covers the Jets for the Athletic said that Houston called asking about Robbie Anderson. So, I guess there still is a need for a WR. They probably couldn't afford to give up much for Green. I'm not even sure what they have left after their past 2 trades. Maybe a second rounder? Not sure
Seattle isn't that deep. They also just lost arguably their 2nd best pass catcher in Dissly, who even though he plays another position, was their red zone guy, which is a place Green excels. I think they make more sense than Buffalo.
I never thought of New Orleans, but that would be crazy dangerous if they could find a way to do it financially. The thing about Green, is that he's always only had Andy Dalton(and Marvin Lewis), maybe he's had so many injuries that he's nowhere near the player he once was, but if he can be even close, Drew Brees(and Sean Payton) would be one hell of an upgrade.
I really thought Green bay would be in on Sanders. Just seemed like a perfect fit.
No idea why Houston would want a WR. They have Hopkins, Stills, Coutee, and will get Fuller back at some point. That is a top-5 NFL WR group already.
rockaction
Footballguy
Fuller's hamstring is said to be more severe than originally thought. Sprinter like that...that's a multi-week absence, most likely.
Right, but likely not a season ender. Stills/Coutee is a solid 2-3 behind Hopkins. Not sure a guy like Anderson is worth trading for a short term upgrade, if he even is one. Maybe I'm higher on Stills than most?
rockaction
Footballguy
I actually agree with you and am surprised by the report, too. That's about all I can say. I am not high on Coutee, though, who is also oft-injured and at times ineffective. I guess Anderson/Stills/Hopkins really, really stretches the field.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Houston is flying blind with an idiotic pilot hell bent on immediately winning. I could see them trading their 2022 and 2023 1st rounders lol.
Eta: I agree that it doesn't make sense, but read the rumors they were pursuing WR. Same for Buf to a lesser degree.
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rockaction
Footballguy
And that's why while I agree with travdogg, I'm merely surprised and not shocked by the report.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
I guess they have a week to trade him.
Some owners in some of my leagues have openly told me that they don't feel like they should have to pay full price for anyone who is on the block. I guess they assume you have no leverage because you can't afford to or don't want to wait.
Maybe the Bengals are just posturing. I don't trust them though.
The Patriots must have come to them with at least a 1st if they paid a 2nd for Sanu.
Some owners in some of my leagues have openly told me that they don't feel like they should have to pay full price for anyone who is on the block. I guess they assume you have no leverage because you can't afford to or don't want to wait.
Maybe the Bengals are just posturing. I don't trust them though.
The Patriots must have come to them with at least a 1st if they paid a 2nd for Sanu.
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The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Phantom Knight
Footballguy
AJ with Wilson would be great for Seattle football. Although, given their offense, I am not sure it would leave AJ as an WR1. And fantasy-wise, it seems like it would kill Metkalf shares.
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kittenmittens
Footballguy
We forgot the obvious PHI with their awful WRs right now.
Cecil said that PHI and MIN were also in the mix for E Sanders.
It's also been reported that AJ won't be ready until November. Maybe it's hard to get trade value if he's not healthy, and teams are low balling...
Cecil said that PHI and MIN were also in the mix for E Sanders.
It's also been reported that AJ won't be ready until November. Maybe it's hard to get trade value if he's not healthy, and teams are low balling...
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Houston is really high on Stills (I live down here).
They are not deep at all. Hopkins is a warrior that plays through a ton of nagging injuries.
Stills missed a game already.
Coutee gets hurt sneezing.
Fuller is already expected to miss multiple games. With such a quick declaration, that's probably a serious hammy injury. That sounds like a grade 2 strain which usually requires at least 4 weeks, but I'm just speculating here with limited info. With his injury history plus his main attribute being speed, who knows how long he will be out or get re-injured again. That's it. There is nothing behind these guys. Just jag Andre Carter.
This rumor doesn't surprise me at all, especially considering that Anderson is a field stretcher like Fuller. Stills can then play from the slot.
NYRAGE
Footballguy
Philly tried to trade for R Anderson last year. I wouldn't be surprised if they're in the mix again if the Jets are willing to sell this time.
TheWinz
Footballguy
The problem is if he doesn't get traded, will he find a way to stay "hurt" without a new contract?
Does he know the offense inside and out? I mean, he's never played in it before. He's had a playbook sure, and I'm sure watched from the sideline, but its not like this is the offense they've had in Cinci for years.
Agree with this. The grass isn't always greener. Seems more often than not, WRs that change teams midseason don't do a whole lot.
2020 2nd rounder and 2021 3rd rounder is all they have left in the first three rounds the next two years. Thanks a lot BOB.
Caesar
Footballguy
There's only one game left in October. Doesn't seem like much of a report. It also fits into the timeline of the Bengals waiting until after their Bye to bring him back on the field. Its not exactly crack reporting there.
Futz
Footballguy
Yup this is my fear. If he gets traded I’d feel way more confident he’s fine and will play.
TheWinz
Footballguy
I think it became clear weeks ago AJG would not be suiting up before the trade deadline, unless he was either traded or signed. We haven't heard a peep about a new contract, either from AJG or the Bengals, so I have to assume one is not in the works. We would've heard something by now. As high profile as AJG is, it's amazing the lack of information we have on him. And I have to think AJG and the Bengals want it that way.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Truth. And the team that gets him doesnt even have to resign him. They can borrow him for a title run for a 1st, and then get a 3rd back as a compensatory pick. Sure, the drop from (presumably) late 1st to late 3rd is a big drop, but you get the player who can potentially put you over the top, a chance to resign him if you choose to - or get a 3rd round pick instead. Seems like a no- brainer for The Packers or Saints, and even the Eagles or Seahawks if their front office believes they have a chance to win it all.
trader jake
Footballguy
More AJ Green contract & trade conversation: in this thread or by Bengals management (internal + external)?
TheWinz
Footballguy
Some in this thread have said his fantasy outlook for this year would be better if he stays with CIN, but I disagree. If the status quo remains after 29 Oct, why would AJG take the field? He would only be risking reinjury for a winless team that has no plans on resigning him. Any 2020 suitors already know his skillset, and don't need to see him perform. They only need to know he is healthy.
I have only read a page in this thread so I don't know if anyone brought this up. I assume they can use the franchise tag as leverage against Green so they don't have to rush to trade him. I agree with the sentiment that teams that want to win now could definitely benefit by trading for him. The 49ers just gave up draft choices for Sanders who IMHO is only a slight upgrade to what they already have. If Green is healthy he would be a huge upgrade to a team like that and might change the balance in the NFC (Someone mentioned Seattle which could also be great). I saw people talking about Houston being a possible target. Hopkins and Green would be amazing to see. Would Green to the Patriots would make them unbeatable (are they already unbeatable). I hope he goes somewhere this year and his talent isn't wasted on a horrible Bengals team.
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Josh Gordon to IR - Season over. I dont think Sanu is the solution for that loss. AJG could be in play.
Foosball God
Foos
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Probably not, but their window is clearly closing and their WR right now are Edelman, Dorsett, Sanu, and Meyers. There is no Gronk. Of course they are capable of winning a super bowl with those WRs, but its not really an imposing group. They brought in Gordon and AB to have 2 alphas...now they really have none. It woudl not shock me at all if they paid the 1 to get it done. Win one more while Brady still has to pay full price at the movies.
Foosball God
Foos
I'm not so sure they'd get a 3rd round comp pick for him at this point, depends what he signs for elsewhere.
Wrigley
Footballguy
ChuckLiddell
Footballguy
Its not? Their QB is 42 years old. You think he will play forever? Or he is easily replaced? I am not sure if I am being trolled or if you really think that they will be super bowl contenders forever. Jarrett Stintham is going to replace him and win super bowls?
