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...and do they do they get their scoring from the Monday USA Today...Are there any leagues that don't count receiving yards for a RB? That would seem strange.
...and do they do they get their scoring from the Monday USA Today...Are there any leagues that don't count receiving yards for a RB? That would seem strange.
That's why I felt a clarification was needed. I've played in all kinds of leagues with all kinds of rules.
I chose CMC over hunt in the 3rd. Almost got hunt in the 4th anyway when he went one pick ahead of me. Anyway, I think CMC is more talented and thus could take the league by storm. Hunt is in an Andy Reid offense which is alluring for RBs but I just don't think he's anything special so I can see a year like Spencer ware had last year. I see them both have floors as rb2 but CMC has a higher ceiling. Just my opinion.In my 12 team Super-flex, PPR draft yesterday went with pick 5.4 as the #16 RB off the board. He is the RB 2 on that squad, D.Freeman is #1.
Other RBs available were K.Hunt (5.5, RB 17), L.Miller (5.9, RB18), C.Hyde (5.10, RB19) & J.Mixon (5.11, RB20). Dalvin Cook was drafted at 3.9 as the #9 RB off the board to a big, big Vikings homer.
Considering what was available, I think I would only have taken Hunt over McCaffrey at that spot.
In our PPR I took him at 4.6. Gurley went 3.4, Fournette went 3.7, Crowell 3.9, Miller 3.10, and Montgomery 4.2I chose CMC over hunt in the 3rd. Almost got hunt in the 4th anyway when he went one pick ahead of me. Anyway, I think CMC is more talented and thus could take the league by storm. Hunt is in an Andy Reid offense which is alluring for RBs but I just don't think he's anything special so I can see a year like Spencer ware had last year. I see them both have floors as rb2 but CMC has a higher ceiling. Just my opinion.
Not hard to pick out CMC owners in this thread.
McCaffrey may be the most interesting player in football this season. He's certainly one of the most interesting in fantasy football.I chose CMC over hunt in the 3rd. Almost got hunt in the 4th anyway when he went one pick ahead of me. Anyway, I think CMC is more talented and thus could take the league by storm. Hunt is in an Andy Reid offense which is alluring for RBs but I just don't think he's anything special so I can see a year like Spencer ware had last year. I see them both have floors as rb2 but CMC has a higher ceiling. Just my opinion.
Cam Newton said the Panthers are "expecting big things" from Christian McCaffrey.
"Whether battling injuries or not, [Curtis Samuel and McCaffrey] are being forced into fire," Newton added. It’s fair to say Newton has more weapons than he’s ever had in his career and he even called the idea of it "scary" on Tuesday. The Panthers reportedly have tailored their playbook to CMC, so the Stanford rookie has RB1 upside even without getting a massive workload. He shapes up as a risky RB2 against the 49ers on Sunday.
Source: Panthers.com
Sep 5 - 6:21 PM
I have never seen a league that doesnt reward receiving yards from anyone.Depends on the league, depends on the scoring format.
It's not complicated guys. CMC's value increases the more your league rewards what a RB does as a receiver. Conversely his value decreases the more your league scoring emphasizes what a RB does on the ground and devalues what they do as a receiver.
In leagues where a RB is only rewarded for what he does as a result of handoffs, he's simply not going to score enough consistently enough to warrant drafting.
It's called backtracking.I have never seen a league that doesnt reward receiving yards from anyone.
Me neither. I have played in leagues where running backs only got points for "running stuff" and receivers only got points for "receiving stuff". Under the scoring layout for those leagues, receivers didn't get points for rushing yards on things like end-arounds or other rushing attempts, and running backs didn't get points for receiving yards.I have never seen a league that doesnt reward receiving yards from anyone.
I have him in one league, and happy that I do. I'd prefer him over any of the backs on the team in my other league, but he got snapped up in the rookie draft portion of that league before I had the chance. In PPR, he has the chance to be truly special.FWIW, I am not a McCaffrey owner, but sure wish that I was.
Are you really in here referencing 1991 as if it matters to any pertinent fantasy football discussion in 2017? Come on, man.Me neither. I have played in leagues where running backs only got points for "running stuff" and receivers only got points for "receiving stuff". Under the scoring layout for those leagues, receivers didn't get points for rushing yards on things like end-arounds or other rushing attempts, and running backs didn't get points for receiving yards.
ETA: for those interested, I believe the rules came from Robert Sklar's 1991 book "Rotisserie League Football". I know the league I'm remembering was formed in the early 90s and we were all Roto baseball nerds.
Just stopMe neither. I have played in leagues where running backs only got points for "running stuff" and receivers only got points for "receiving stuff". Under the scoring layout for those leagues, receivers didn't get points for rushing yards on things like end-arounds or other rushing attempts, and running backs didn't get points for receiving yards.
ETA: for those interested, I believe the rules came from Robert Sklar's 1991 book "Rotisserie League Football". I know the league I'm remembering was formed in the early 90s and we were all Roto baseball nerds.
Now I finally see your point. Christian McCaffrey was undraftable in 1991. I agree.Me neither. I have played in leagues where running backs only got points for "running stuff" and receivers only got points for "receiving stuff". Under the scoring layout for those leagues, receivers didn't get points for rushing yards on things like end-arounds or other rushing attempts, and running backs didn't get points for receiving yards.
ETA: for those interested, I believe the rules came from Robert Sklar's 1991 book "Rotisserie League Football". I know the league I'm remembering was formed in the early 90s and we were all Roto baseball nerds.
Stop. Take your lumps and go away.Guys, not every league plays by the same rules. I think anyone that doesn't play PPR is nuts anyway.
Somebody is definitely nuts hereGuys, not every league plays by the same rules. I think anyone that doesn't play PPR is nuts anyway.
Depends what year it isHave a draft in an hour and pick first. This thread looks like it's picking up alot of steam. CMC over DJ at 1.1?
But mostly because he was 4.Now I finally see your point. Christian McCaffrey was undraftable in 1991. I agree.
Very, very small.He made himself small and patiently followed his blockers.
Not if your drafting in 1985Have a draft in an hour and pick first. This thread looks like it's picking up alot of steam. CMC over DJ at 1.1?
Starting CMC over Mike Weber in 112 weeks.Starting CMC over D Freeman this week.
Wouldn't punters start every punt from a -2 in that system?BassNBrew said:Got side with Stat here. He's un-draftable in my Bionic Leg Superflex League that awards 1 pt per yard FG, punt, and kickoff distance and deducts two points for every time you touch the ball with your hands.
What do you get for missed kicks?Wouldn't punters start every punt from a -2 in that system?
Yes. Cmac only sits slightly ahead of centers, holders, Tebow, Manziel, and that guy that holds the kickoff with his index finger on windy days.Wouldn't punters start every punt from a -2 in that system?
FOX Sports' Jay Glazer reports Christian McCaffrey is expected to handle 12-15 touches in Week 1 at San Francisco.
"He's not going to start, but he's going to get about 12 to 15 touches," were Glazer's exact words. McCaffrey drafters in season-long leagues were likely hoping for a bit more, but it's further confirmation that Jonathan Stewart will maintain a big role. Stewart is an underrated RB2/flex play in a favorable matchup against the 49ers. McCaffrey will handle punt returns, so the Panthers want to keep him fresh and explosive for an all-purpose role.
AND HE'S NOT EVEN STARTING.1,745+ posts and 53,000+ views in this thread before McCaffrey even takes a regular season snap.
I think that might be a new record in the Shark Pool for a player thread.
Don't own McCaffrey but do own the Panthers D and he's a breath of fresh air compared to Ted 'I'm a coward that fair catches everything' Ginn. That guy had world class speed and the balls of a knat.Gotta say, I think the Panthers are nuts having this guy return punts. Anyone that owns him has to be worried every time a gunner draws a bead on him
This is the point where knuckleheads chime in with "but then I wouldn't get his return yardage points", like everyone plays in leagues that reward punt return yards
CJ2K had an epic pre-rookie thread IIRC. Not sure how close the post #s were.1,745+ posts and 53,000+ views in this thread before McCaffrey even takes a regular season snap.
I think that might be a new record in the Shark Pool for a player thread.