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1 minute ago, Bigboy10182000 said:

Shall I list them again or was this your attempt at being clever by repeating me? lol

Make your point if you have one.

The point is they both lost a dominant O-lineman. The difference is the cowboys lost a top 3 back and the eagles lost an old 3rd down back. Kind of hard to compare.

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He’s a Check down artist with some ability to make plays with his feet. When the line and RB get you 4.5 every time you run it, and Dak can have a cup of coffee in the pocket on pass plays the game can slow down. Offense is “easy” when it’s 2nd and 4 or 3rd and 2 all the time.

When he’s in 3rd and long because they aren’t running it and he has to be decisive with the ball as soon as he hits his drop? Not so good. 

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2 hours ago, Grahamburn said:

He’s a Check down artist with some ability to make plays with his feet. When the line and RB get you 4.5 every time you run it, and Dak can have a cup of coffee in the pocket on pass plays the game can slow down. Offense is “easy” when it’s 2nd and 4 or 3rd and 2 all the time.

When he’s in 3rd and long because they aren’t running it and he has to be decisive with the ball as soon as he hits his drop? Not so good. 

 

Good call, Nostradamus. 

 

Hes still a second year QB who will struggle. Last year the Cowboys had a magic season and everything went right. This year, not so much. The Cowboys offense is vanilla as it gets and predictable. The WRs are sub par and the TE is 100. 

Dak will be fine and grow from this. 

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Cowboys LT Tyron Smith (groin) is practicing Tuesday.

 

Owners Jerry Jones said Smith has a chance to play on Thursday, and he looks on track after getting in work each of the first two days of practice. Smith returning would be a huge boost for the entire offense.

 

Finally some good news for Dak.

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21 hours ago, Weebs210 said:

The point is they both lost a dominant O-lineman. The difference is the cowboys lost a top 3 back and the eagles lost an old 3rd down back. Kind of hard to compare.

Are you suggesting that the only way Dak can be successful is with an All-Pro RB?  The Eagles don't have, and from appearances, don't need an All-Pro back for Wentz to be successful.

 

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Just now, Weebs210 said:

You are joking right? They have a stable of good running backs.

Blount had a good year the previous season.  Historically hes a 150 carry/year guy.  He was on the street all offseason waiting for someone to sign him.  

Cory Clement.  An undrafted FA.

Wendell Smallwood?  He has 480 career yards.

Jay Ajayi's been here 2 games and has 15 total carries.  Maybe going forward he'll be the #1, but we're looking back right now.

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3 minutes ago, Amused to Death said:

 

11 minutes ago, Weebs210 said:

You are joking right? They have a stable of good running backs.

And Alfred Morris is.....??  IIRC, the Cowboys ran pretty well Sunday night.  Their problem was their passing game.

 

Morris had more yards per rushing attempt (5.35) than Dak had per passing attempt (4.68).  Impressive.

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Back on topic...... anyone considering not starting Dak this week? Is it totally dependent on Tyron playing?

I am currently considering streaming options, the Chargers D and pass rush has been coming on....Bosa and Ingram are beasts...... 

 

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18 minutes ago, ahartig said:

Back on topic...... anyone considering not starting Dak this week? Is it totally dependent on Tyron playing?

I am currently considering streaming options, the Chargers D and pass rush has been coming on....Bosa and Ingram are beasts...... 

 

God help me I'm eyeing Fitz on the wire until I see signs of life. 

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54 minutes ago, ahartig said:

Back on topic...... anyone considering not starting Dak this week? Is it totally dependent on Tyron playing?

I am currently considering streaming options, the Chargers D and pass rush has been coming on....Bosa and Ingram are beasts...... 

 

It kind of is for me. I'm actually thinking of starting Keenum....

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35 minutes ago, tombonneau said:

God help me I'm eyeing Fitz on the wire until I see signs of life. 

 

9 minutes ago, IheartGuinness said:

It kind of is for me. I'm actually thinking of starting Keenum....

Jesus, really? Both Fitz and Keenum are available in my league....... may have to rethink my waiver claims

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6 hours ago, STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

 

Good call, Nostradamus. 

 

Hes still a second year QB who will struggle. Last year the Cowboys had a magic season and everything went right. This year, not so much. The Cowboys offense is vanilla as it gets and predictable. The WRs are sub par and the TE is 100. 

Dak will be fine and grow from this. 

I posted back in week 2 that I thought he looked like Mike Glennon after playing the Broncos.  Well, he is who I thought he was when the circumstances aren't perfect for him.

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1 minute ago, Football Jones said:

 

47 minutes ago, Snotbubbles said:

They don't. 

At one point they did. 

If they don't lead the league, they're close.

 

You seem to be fixated on the running, which helps make the point for people criticizing him.  The criticism is that he needs an elite running game.  Without it he's been below average.

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2 minutes ago, Amused to Death said:

You seem to be fixated on the running, which helps make the point for people criticizing him.  The criticism is that he needs an elite running game.  Without it he's been below average.

Wentz was far below average last season without a top running game. He's night & day difference now with one (the Eagles are 2nd in rushing).

Even YOU know your point isn't valid as far as Dallas is concerned.

Morris has actually ran pretty well the last couple weeks. The Cowboys have struggled the past 2 games because of their pass pro. Period.

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Just now, Football Jones said:

Wentz was far below average last season without a top running game. He's night & day difference now with one (the Eagles are 2nd in rushing).

Even YOU know your point isn't valid as far as Dallas is concerned.

Morris has actually ran pretty well the last couple weeks. The Cowboys have struggled the past 2 games because of their pass pro. Period.

Could it possibly be because he matured as a 2nd year QB?

To your 2nd point - why do you keep bringing up the Eagles' run success as it relates to Wentz if the 'Boys issues are strictly pass-pro?

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7 minutes ago, Amused to Death said:

Could it possibly be because he matured as a 2nd year QB?

To your 2nd point - why do you keep bringing up the Eagles' run success as it relates to Wentz if the 'Boys issues are strictly pass-pro?

Wentz has certainly benefitted from a top running game. He's also greatly benefited from a MUCH improved receiving corps.

Without both of those, I'd expect improvement over last season, but he definitely wouldn't be putting up the production he is now. Not even close

As far as Dak, the poor pass pro we've had the last couple weeks would kill any QB. We've got to protect better. One of our offseason goals has to be to get better backup OL (not just at LT).

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On 11/20/2017 at 2:59 PM, Bigboy10182000 said:

I have no other options in my main league. I was lucky enough to have him as a back up to Rodgers but have dropped the last 2 games and need to win out to get back in the money. 

His schedule gets lighter so I’m hoping he turns it around. 

Yep, I’m done. Hope no one took my advice. 

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I honestly can't believe how any would trust Dak after the last couple of weeks.  I traded for Ben this week in a dynasty league as a contender because I knew sticking with Dak would be my downfall.  Happy Dak is on my bench because I still believe in him, but until he figures out how to be great without perfect conditions he will be very risky.

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1 hour ago, battlestar said:

I honestly can't believe how any would trust Dak after the last couple of weeks.  I traded for Ben this week in a dynasty league as a contender because I knew sticking with Dak would be my downfall.  Happy Dak is on my bench because I still believe in him, but until he figures out how to be great without perfect conditions he will be very risky.

Thanks for this amazing insight after the game has been played.

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Weebs- I said I traded for Ben THIS WEEK and Dak is on my bench.  So I chose to deal with the reality i saw as opposed to hoping in vain.

I wasn't sharing any supposed deep insight, simply stating that I thought it seemed risky to play Dak for anyone based on what we've seen.

In essence, if folks chose to ignore reality and start Dak, they got what they deserved.

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On 11/23/2017 at 10:15 PM, STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:

Teams are covering Witten and Cole and begging him to throw to Dez and it's doesn't work. 

More INTs the last 2 games than in 16 G last year. 8 turnovers in the last 3. Under 200 4 of the last 5 (which is incredible in the 2017 NFL - that’s Kizer territory.)

The thing I keep hearing over and over is he won’t throw into a tight window; he’s got to see seperation before he’ll fire. Dez has never been great coming off the line but his physicality makes him great on 50/50 balls. Which makes me think this is unlikely to self correct because that’s just not something Dak has ever been comfortable doing.

I like the matchup tonight but I just can’t trust Prescott right now. 

Sounds like Martin & Smith will go tonight but Collins hasn’t practiced all week.

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My bet Dak has a good game tonight vs Washington.. Must win game and Washington is no Chargers or Eagles on D .. Teams have figured out how to defend Dallas without zeke.. Play action no longer works..no 8 man boxes.. Nickel and Dime them.. Dallas has no threat at wr.. Dez is slow.. SO when Dak feels the pressure who does he have to throw to that can get open .. noone 

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Hoping dak has a decent game tonight to push cousins for some more points

Dallas def just made rivers look like Rodgers so I'm thinking there will be some nice points tonight

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