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He wasn't used in that fashion when Doyle was out for 5 weeks in the middle of the season. I don't see why that would change for this stretch of Doyle's absence.
Arguably, the best stretch Ebron had all year was when Doyle was injured.
I don't see how you could expect this to hurt Ebron at all. More targets from a QB who loves throwing to TEs.
The Frankman
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This is the Doyle thread , so I don't want to get technical about it... but what I'm saying is his usage back then can somewhat be attributed to a) having another competent TE around to block (Erik Swoopes was around those 5 weeks) b) a weaker WR core. Now the WRs thing can be marginal, but a lot of the Colts mismatches work on having multiple TEs. With Ebron as the only TE that changes the scheme a good deal. Now I would assume they get a guy off the practice squad/sign one, but if they don't Ebron's gonna have to block some.
What I was referring to where it hurts a little is schemes where he may be out on routes he has to block. The quality of those targets will differ also (how many wide open TDs has he had on situations where they covered the wrong TE?). In my opinion his floor stabilizes but his ceiling drops a little.
What I was referring to where it hurts a little is schemes where he may be out on routes he has to block. The quality of those targets will differ also (how many wide open TDs has he had on situations where they covered the wrong TE?). In my opinion his floor stabilizes but his ceiling drops a little.
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Last I read, Alie-Cox is expected to return next week. Not sure about what’s up with Swoope.
But I can’t see any way it “hurts Ebron a little,” like you suggested. Ebron was getting between 22%-45% of the snaps when Doyle played, and was getting between 50%-88% of the snaps when he didn’t. Ebron was averaging 3 targets/game when Doyle played and he averaged 8 targets/game with him out. Unless you expect him to get less than 3 targets and play less than 22% of the snaps, the “hurts Ebron a little” comment is just wrong.
ETA-just read your most recent post; that clears it up. Not sure I agree 100%, but I understand what you are getting at.
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Cowboysfan8
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hamsterdam
Footballguy
You guys think Brissett bumps Doyle's value? He caught 80 balls from him in 2017.
Snorkelson
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The Frankman
Footballguy
Late round value pick, better line so won't block as much and Brissett loves to target TEs. Lower ceiling but floor should be like 4-5 points in non-PPR.
The Frankman
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The Frankman
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The Frankman
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Going to have to watch the game but it seemed like they wanted Doyle/Cox to clear space for the underneath guys. Really odd.
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
I think this is lazy analysis by whoever that is. Doyle had one that was just over his hands in the first quarter that would have made his stats 4-60-1. He will be a main redzone threat for the colts if they dont just pound it in with the running game.
whole-show
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Doyle is active
Faust
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Faust
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The Frankman
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Helaire-ious
Footballguy
He had a decent week 2. Wentz likes Tight Ends. Should he be left on the ww or could he be a surprise top 10 TE this season in PPR?
JohnnyU
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I knew that was coming. Granson should take a step forward in 2022, but with a run team offense and questions at QB, that doesn't mean a whole lot.
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