You're missing it again. No, 15 million isn't huge money for a starting qb. It IS huge money to someone who's a backup qb that you put in as a starter. If the deal is structured to 3 years 45 million with a lot of it guaranteed, it's a huge mistake. See Brock Osweiler. We had a bridge qb with Hoyer, and cheap. Now you're paying 45 million to a bridge qb?!? That's lunacy!$15 million isn't "huge money" for the position anymore. It's what you pay for a low-end starter in 2017. You weren't going to get established starters like Taylor or Cousins. No one will touch Kapernick right now. Garrapolo hype is nothing but a combination of desperation and wishful thinking. This is may be the best of a bad set of options, quite frankly. I'd be curious to see how the deal is structured because I think they're still going to draft someone. They're going to let Glennon serve as the bridge with the potential for actually competing within the division, as opposed to signing Hoyer or keeping Barkley.
I'm not sure you get it: The Bucs drafted Winston. They saw a brighter future with Winston than with Glennon and it worked out. There's no shame in saying he was beat out by Winston. Glennon put up respectable numbers as a rookie. He struggled year two like many do (hey, like Winston!) but I don't fault the Bucs - or Glennon - for taking Winston. He's clearly the better player right now.You're missing it again. No, 15 million isn't huge money for a starting qb. It IS huge money to someone who's a backup qb that you put in as a starter. If the deal is structured to 3 years 45 million with a lot of it guaranteed, it's a huge mistake. See Brock Osweiler. We had a bridge qb with Hoyer, and cheap. Now you're paying 45 million to a bridge qb?!? That's lunacy!
Why the hell haven't we heard AJ Bouye's name linked to us this week? Ridiculous.Let's hope all these rumors aren't true. Gilmore reports talks broke down. Lost out on best tackle available. Sounding like Jefferson not in the equation. Could lose Alshon. All while having plenty of cap space. Now isn't the time to conserve cap space you morons.
Why the hell are all of the big name free agents apparently signing with other teams while the Bears are sitting on their hands? Uh, you just went 3-13 and you have a ton of cap space. After being cautious over the last 2 seasons, Nows not the time to be cautious!!! The idiocy of this team defies all belief.Why the hell haven't we heard AJ Bouye's name linked to us this week? Ridiculous.
At least we'll have another high draft pick in 2018flapgreen said:Rumors are 3yrs 15mil per for Glennon. If that actually the case, it's more of the same for this organization and Pace is no different than anyone else. Lions appeared to have locked up Wagner, so there's the best RT gone. More years of failure and embarrassment again, guys. So pretty much same as day 1
15m can't be the market when there are only two bidders....one who is willing to pay 8m.Like it or not, it looks like 15m WAS the market price for Glennon: https://mobile.twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/838588037915426817
Multiple #NFL sources are pegging the free agent contract of #Bucs QB Mike Glennon as expected to land between $14-$15 million per season.9:12 PM · Mar 5, 2017https://mobile.twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/838588037915426817
I wonder what Hoyer got.
Glennon us good enough to win a few more games than the 3 that Chicago won last year. I guess that will be looked at as a great improvement. Great job at improving, Bears! Better be a front loaded deal with ability to cut him after one season.Give the guy a chance, Chicago.
If Greg Schiano and Lovie Smith couldn't make this guy into a great QB, no one can. We're doomed.Give the guy a chance, Chicago.
Why the hell haven't we heard AJ Bouye's name linked to us this week? Ridiculous.
Why would any FA want to sign with the Bears other than money? Even if the Bears are offering the most why would a player pick them over a team like the Pats? Remember, the Pats have a lot of money this off season even after winning the SB. That puts a team like the Bears in a tough spot.Why the hell are all of the big name free agents apparently signing with other teams while the Bears are sitting on their hands? Uh, you just went 3-13 and you have a ton of cap space. After being cautious over the last 2 seasons, Nows not the time to be cautious!!! The idiocy of this team defies all belief.
If you pay, say, a top end Right Tackle, and then the best player on your board in round 2 is a right tackle... what do you do? Take a different guy, which violated your core philosophy of always taking the best available? Or draft a guy to sit for a couple years?3 years into a rebuild with a load of cap space and because they're not going to the Super Bowl next year, you don't think they should sign any big time talent. That reasoning is beyond me. So what should they do with the cap space? Spent the last 2 years being conservative with it and it led to a total of 9 wins. Now you think they should continue with that strategy because you "can't build a successful franchise though free agency?" Hugely simplistic way to view it. This team Plain sucks. Devoid of top end talent. None of their own players worth re-signing, but they shouldn't sign any other top free agents because they're years away from competing, still? This is organization and mindset is why the Bears continue to be losers.
Wait, wait, wait... So if the Bears offer a guy $10M per year and the Pats offer that same guy $9M per year with all the same guarantees you're saying they would pick the Bears because they only care about making money? I believe you may be incredibly wrong on this one. Money is important but it's generally got to be a significant difference to choose a losing team over a winning team.Guys care about making money. Not winning. Perfect year to continue rebuilding the defense and the space to do it and we're signing Glennon when we're not going to win much anyway.
I think most guys would take the extra million for sure.Wait, wait, wait... So if the Bears offer a guy $10M per year and the Pats offer that same guy $9M per year with all the same guarantees you're saying they would pick the Bears because they only care about making money? I believe you may be incredibly wrong on this one. Money is important but it's generally got to be a significant difference to choose a losing team over a winning team.
If the Tackle is by far the best player available in the draft then you take that guy and have two really good Tackles. Having a lot of talent on the OL is a good problem to have. You can move one to the other Tackle position, use one as a back up or trade one. It's a pretty important position.If you pay, say, a top end Right Tackle, and then the best player on your board in round 2 is a right tackle... what do you do? Take a different guy, which violated your core philosophy of always taking the best available? Or draft a guy to sit for a couple years?
What is the point of bringing in flashy, expensive talent to win you a couple extra games and move you down in the draft while keeping you mediocre? Thats football hell defined.
The Bears didnt become one of the worst franchises in football in a year or two, they arent going to fix it in a year or two. Its going to take several years of good drafting to restock the cupboard. Developing 'Bears' has to be the primary focus. Taking that focus away so you can puff your chest out about landing a free agent that doesnt help you in the big picture is how you stay bad.
Very doubtful. Not for $1M. Of course some guys might, especially a young guy but most want to win and going to the Pats gives them a very good chance at a SB.I think most guys would take the extra million for sure.
Thats certainly true- but I'm talking about the philosophy more than anything. There, of course, will be free agent signings. But the free agents should be in service of building the team long term, and that means not prioritizing big names just because they are big names.If the Tackle is by far the best player available in the draft then you take that guy and have two really good Tackles. Having a lot of talent on the OL is a good problem to have. You can move one to the other Tackle position, use one as a back up or trade one. It's a pretty important position.
If you have a similar grade on a guy that's a different position then I think it's perfectly fine to take the other guy.
Its a million dollars. Even for millionaires thats a lot of money.Very doubtful. Not for $1M. Of course some guys might, especially a young guy but most want to win and going to the Pats gives them a very good chance at a SB.
They're still going to draft a QB though so it doesn't really matter that much. It's possible that by getting Glennon they may be wanting to draft D with the first pick and a QB in the 2nd or 3rd which is what a lot of fans wanted to start with. I don't think Glennon is that good but the overall strategy is fine.Bears Suck. Build the defense. Develop a qb. Nope. Let's sign mike Glennon and then be conservative. Great
Not really, not when you're getting a multi million contract already. I've heard numerous times when they go through negotiations how that's not a huge difference. One isn't too bad, two makes a difference and anything over that is getting too far apart for most.Its a million dollars. Even for millionaires thats a lot of money.
SmhThis just feels embarrassing.
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Bears set to sign Mike Glennon to a deal at close to $15M APY. Others (NYJ, Buf) kicked tires in $8M-$10M APY range, bailed when price rose.
Sounds like Bouye is headed elsewhere.Jeff Dickerson[SIZE=.9em]Verified account[/SIZE]@DickersonESPN
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At last check,#Bears were prepared to go $13 million per year for A.J. Bouye. Again, not sure it happens. They have competition.
That may get you off the ledge with Glennon but what about not giving Gilmore a serious offer? Or seriously going after Bouye? They absolutely have to sign some quality players in FA because they do not have enough draft picks to fill all the needs they have.First 20 minutes of Spiegel and Harkins got me off the ledge.
We have more money than we can spend and this doesn't prevent us from drafting a qb or signing anyone we want. And I ha no interest in seeing Cutler or Hoyer in a Bear uniform again.
Exactly right.That may get you off the ledge with Glennon but what about not giving Gilmore a serious offer? Or seriously going after Bouye? They absolutely have to sign some quality players in FA because they do not have enough draft picks to fill all the needs they have.