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I mean for RB's.Quite the bold claim... I'm intrigued
I just don't see anything less than 1100/300/8 with West as his only competition for carries.
I mean for RB's.Quite the bold claim... I'm intrigued
Yup. I love his upside, I would simply prefer to get a little lucky and hope he falls close to the low end of his ADP because I think there will be more players I prefer over him at his high end ADP.Even if you're right, Ware was 10th among RBs last year in yards from scrimmage despite missing 2 3/4 games.
If Hunt is more talented than Ware, it's possible he produces very similar numbers with 250 touches.
And with Tyreek Hill running more downfield routes, there's a hole to fill in the short passing game (Ware's targets went down slightly when Hill emerged in the second half).
Ware also had some big games when left guard Parker Ehinger (torn ACL after 5 games) played, running off the left side. Chiefs activated him off PUP last week so that's possibly a big boost for Hunt.
That's what I meant too... I'm intrigued. A top 10 RB for round 3 or 4 value is very nice. I didn't think his potential was that high. He crept up on me... Might have to target 4.01I mean for RB's.
I just don't see anything less than 1100/300/8 with West as his only competition for carries.
Experts are pushing for him as a 3rd pick and advocating taking him as the first rookie RB.He is a mid fourth now. Will creep into the late third as season approaches
One week from my draft. With our keepers he may not make it to me at 3.12/4.01. That sucks. Too bad I can't trade down from 2.01Experts are pushing for him as a 3rd pick and advocating taking him as the first rookie RB.
How many keepers? If 24 guys are already gone none of those guys are making it back to the 3.12 turn (5.12 turn, really)One week from my draft. With our keepers he may not make it to me at 3.12/4.01. That sucks. Too bad I can't trade down from 2.01
Stranger things have happened in my league. Hoping one of Mixon/Abdullah/and now Hunt make it to me at 3.12 in a keeper PPR
Got him in the 7th Saturday when the Ware injury was unknown and I am very tempted to trade him now before anyone sees him play and potentially not be very good.One week from my draft. With our keepers he may not make it to me at 3.12/4.01. That sucks. Too bad I can't trade down from 2.01
Stranger things have happened in my league. Hoping one of Mixon/Abdullah/and now Hunt make it to me at 3.12 in a keeper PPR
Not be very good? This dude is what MJD used to go as for Halloween!Got him in the 7th Saturday when the Ware injury was unknown and I am very tempted to trade him now before anyone sees him play and potentially not be very good.
Not sure exactly what you mean, but Hunt could struggle or just be ok. Right now, he's never played a down and I hear him being mentioned by some analysts as a borderline RB1. Seems like the odds are against, right?Not be very good? This dude is what MJD used to go as for Halloween!
After the Ware injury I completely understand why they are pushing him as the top rookie RB this season. He has the clearest path to the most touches. And if it was choice, for this season, between Hunt, McCaffrey and Cook I take Hunt six days a week and twice on Sunday (I think Mixon is in an almost guaranteed early season timeshare and has the worst offensive line of the bunch in front of him).Experts are pushing for him as a 3rd pick and advocating taking him as the first rookie RB.
I know of people attempting to unload him in dynasty because they don't believe he'll be any more valuable than he is now and they're not convinced he's the long term answer regardless.Not sure exactly what you mean, but Hunt could struggle or just be ok. Right now, he's never played a down and I hear him being mentioned by some analysts as a borderline RB1. Seems like the odds are against, right?
I didn't like Hunt during the draft. I was dreading GB taking him TBH. Him and Foreman. I just don't see the reasoning for the hype... just because Ware was so good in relief last year, suddenly we can expect Hunt to be even better? The volume will be there but I'm not so convinced the talent is. KC doesn't have an amazing offense in general... I don't know. I'd be happy with him as my RB3, and if he's there 3.12 I will gladly take him 4.01 (1 less round for keeper value if he does pan out). The upside is there but I will shoot for him as my RB3 if I can. I am not so sure I'd want him as my RB1. RB2, heck yes (although if Chaka is right, Crowell will be my RB2 easily).Not sure exactly what you mean, but Hunt could struggle or just be ok. Right now, he's never played a down and I hear him being mentioned by some analysts as a borderline RB1. Seems like the odds are against, right?
Hard passFranknbeans said:What are you guys getting for him?
I was thinking of offering him for Martavis
Hunt and Martavis run the ball and catch the ball. They don't pass. Try to keep up, please.Hard pass
He asked if he should trade Hunt for Martavis. My answer was no way.Hunt and Martavis run the ball and catch the ball. They don't pass. Try to keep up, please.
I think he's saying you shouldn't do it. I'd agree.I wasn't offering him to you ?
I offered Baldwin & Rishard Matthews for him today and was turned down in a FFPC 750 dynasty.Franknbeans said:What are you guys getting for him?
I was thinking of offering him for Martavis
I haven't read anything about this guys ability to protect the passer.
Does anyone have any info on this?
Traded him for Abdullah in dynasty. I know Ameer's market value is probably lower, but I think he's the more talented back. Hunt fell to me to me pretty deep in our rookie draft and I took him as BPA, but I'm only lukewarm on his talent, so I decided to exchange him for a player that I've always liked a lot.Franknbeans said:What are you guys getting for him?
I was thinking of offering him for Martavis
I see my awful attempt at comedy failed.He asked if he should trade Hunt for Martavis. My answer was no way.
He's better at PP than West already. This guy will be fed like a wagyu steer! Do you boys like marbling on your ribeye? If so, skip lunch and saddle up to this trough!KC coaches were very high on his pass protection ability in multiple public statements. He hasn't been perfect to date, but overall he's done a good job and is completely willing to engage
Makes sense. I tend to like Ameer a bit more than Hunt as a player as well. I do think Hunts situation is better than Ameers though.Traded him for Abdullah in dynasty. I know Ameer's market value is probably lower, but I think he's the more talented back. Hunt fell to me to me pretty deep in our rookie draft and I took him as BPA, but I'm only lukewarm on his talent, so I decided to exchange him for a player that I've always liked a lot.
I'm not sure AA will ever be more than he's been. The Lions seem intent on using a committee, and AA isn't leaned on as a receiving back.Traded him for Abdullah in dynasty. I know Ameer's market value is probably lower, but I think he's the more talented back. Hunt fell to me to me pretty deep in our rookie draft and I took him as BPA, but I'm only lukewarm on his talent, so I decided to exchange him for a player that I've always liked a lot.
Earlier in the thread I posted a link to Andy Reid saying that Hunt was good in pass protection. Which based on watching Hunt in college doesn't surprise me. Hunt is a very well rounded player who can do everything well.I haven't read anything about this guys ability to protect the passer.
Does anyone have any info on this?
Hunt over Abdullah in redraft seems fine to me. I like AA more as a runner, but Hunt is in the better situation. Could certainly have the better 2017.I'd rather have that than AA. I took Hunt over AA in my redraft for those reasons.
Matt Waldman's article this morning strongly implies that Hunt is NOT particularly proficient in pass-blocking. For what that is worth (for me it is worth quite a bit, as I certainly value Matt's opinion on these matters pretty highly)
Link?Matt Waldman's article this morning strongly implies that Hunt is NOT particularly proficient in pass-blocking. For what that is worth (for me it is worth quite a bit, as I certainly value Matt's opinion on these matters pretty highly)
http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/article.php?article=waldmantop10P3Link?
What were the comments?
It is very possible to criticize a player for poor technique or missing an assignment without that meaning anything in regards to the players playing time and trust from the coaches.
I didn't notice anything terrible about Hunts blocking during preseason. But certainly possible I missed a play or assignment that he had an error or that he performed poorly.
Exactly. If he isn't good at pass blocking, then the Chiefs won't ask him to pass block much. We don't get fantasy points for successfully picking up a blitz so who cares. David Johnson barely was asked to pass block last year. Same with Lev Bell and Zeke. RBs that can potentially catch 50 passes don't spend many pass plays at home blocking,All I need to know is that Reid unequivocally has named Hunt the starter.
Whether Waldman likes his passblocking carries zero weight with me in terms of fantasy impact.
This is certainly no replacement for Decker since he appears to be one of the better young LT prospects in the NFL, but Greg Robinson has potentially turned a corner. He has been pretty good so far in preseason. We all know he's as talented as any LT out there, but it now seems like he might be ready to use those gifts to at least be an average NFL starter.Concern for Ameers outlook not helped by the Lions starting tackles being injured, Riddick being more of a thread for time share and high value passing targets and Hunt likely getting goal line opportunities that Ameer may not. Also better defense of the Chiefs supporting the use of RB a bit more than with the Lions.
eta - I guess RIcky Wagner is doing well. I thought I had heard he was injured a few weeks ago, but if he was I guess it wasn't anything major. He played 37 snaps in most recent Lions game and played well.
All I need to know is that Reid unequivocally has named Hunt the starter.
Whether Waldman likes his passblocking carries zero weight with me in terms of fantasy impact.
It's not like KC has Aaron Rodgers throwing footballs... let's get real. KC's offense doesn't depend on the pass, it utilizes their RBs heavily.Exactly. If he isn't good at pass blocking, then the Chiefs won't ask him to pass block much. We don't get fantasy points for successfully picking up a blitz so who cares. David Johnson barely was asked to pass block last year. Same with Lev Bell and Zeke. RBs that can potentially catch 50 passes don't spend many pass plays at home blocking,
Most keepers are late round picks (for example I'm keeping Diggs (6) Ajayi (7) and Crowell (9)zoonation said:How many keepers? If 24 guys are already gone none of those guys are making it back to the 3.12 turn (5.12 turn, really)
I don't have a clear answer. The situation is really nice, but people are talking about valuing him as a late 2nd, early 3rd round pick for redraft. That is very high for a 3rd round RB that played in the MAC and is not all that athletic.It's not like KC has Aaron Rodgers throwing footballs... let's get real. KC's offense doesn't depend on the pass, it utilizes their RBs heavily.
ilove80s... trying to figure out if you like the guy or don't...
Certainly not the end all indicator, but when we have a RB beating up on questionable competition and then we see that he's not actually fast or quick, it could be an indicator that he's not capable of translating his game from the MAC to the AFC West.Yeah, Hunt's sparq scores were below average. I think I heard on a podcast 28th percentile.
Of course, several HOF runningbacks likely didn't have great sparq scores so it's obviously not an end all be all indicator.
It could be an indicator, but the Chiefs confidence in him greatly outweighs those concerns for me.Certainly not the end all indicator, but when we have a RB beating up on questionable competition and then we see that he's not actually fast or quick, it could be an indicator that he's not capable of translating his game from the MAC to the AFC West.