rockaction 22,919 Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Eephus said: Hip Hop itself was less than fifteen years old at the time and its boundaries were still being extended on a regular basis. Makes sense then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eephus 23,168 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, El Floppo said: Did the second ABC have the "pounds, dollars...puhpuhouhpounds, dollars" tune on it? It was decent of so. No that's the third album. How To Be a Zillionaire. 3 minutes ago, El Floppo said: Other 80s acts...Thomas dolbys The Flat Earth was a flop after the blinded with science album, but still great and maybe even better. Talk Talk iirc. Joe Jackson had an epic first four album run. Dolby's catalog is poorly represented on Spotify for rights related reasons. Talk Talk got better as they went along. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Leroy Hoard 13,345 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Love that Dolby stuff. He somehow sounded both nerd and funky simultaneously. Edited September 14, 2019 by Leroy Hoard Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eephus 23,168 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Henry Ford said: Not their first and second albums, but first and second national and international distributions, Congratulations...I’m Sorry after New Miserable Experience for the Gin Blossoms always seems unfairly panned. Some great driving tunes on that album, and I often prefer the version with ‘Til I Hear It From You on it to New Miserable Experience. Didn't the songwriter die or quit the band or something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Henry Ford 60,520 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Eephus said: Didn't the songwriter die or quit the band or something? Yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zamboni 6,668 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Allmans: Idlewild South IIRC initially wasn’t as widely praised or accepted as the s/t debut, but is just as, if not stronger. Edited September 14, 2019 by zamboni 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zamboni 6,668 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Leroy Hoard said: Love that Dolby stuff. He somehow sounded both nerd and funky simultaneously. And played a key part on Def Leppard’s Pyromania. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 22,919 Posted September 14, 2019 Author Share Posted September 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, Henry Ford said: Yes. I had posted a longer response about that, but it was long-winded and got jettisoned for the sake of continuity. It was about critical and audience expectations of the album because of that, the seismic movement in FM radio from '92-'96, record companies and supply-side hits vs. actual demand, etc., but it went into the ether. Safe to say, yes, he died and many thought the band went with him. Perhaps prematurely. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,025 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 It got good reviews and is well liked but I feel like Evil Empire doesn't get the same praise as the other RATM albums and it might be my favorite of theirs. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wikkidpissah 18,082 Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) Many of my favorite artists had their peak on their 3rd record - Yes w Fragile, Little Feat w Dixie Chicken, Laura Nyro w NY Tendaberry, Radiohead w OK Computer Edited September 14, 2019 by wikkidpissah 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Dreaded Marco 3,632 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 6 hours ago, -fish- said: Not really fair because the second was a double album, but Wilco - Being There was creative leap ahead of A.M., a solid album in its own right. I was just going to post this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 14,278 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Ilov80s said: It got good reviews and is well liked but I feel like Evil Empire doesn't get the same praise as the other RATM albums and it might be my favorite of theirs. I was thinking about this. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Long Ball Larry 14,278 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Wu-tang? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 22,919 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Long Ball Larry said: Wu-tang? i certainly considered it as a neat contrarian pick because even Iron Flag was a quality album, but at no point is the second album Wu Tang Forever, after the solo albums came out, anywhere as groundbreaking as Enter... or the solo efforts, IMHO. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
McBokonon 2,860 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 The Violent Femmes self-titled debut brought us Blister in the Sun, Please Do Not Go, Kiss Off, Gone Daddy Gone, Add it Up..it was an insanely good album and I think they should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame - nobody sounded like them before, and nobody has sounded like them since. They are truly their own thing. Their second album is largely forgotten even though it has Country Death Song, Black Girls, and Jesus Walking on the Water on it but Hallowed Grounds is great. Sweet Misery Blues Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Dreaded Marco 3,632 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Echo & the Bunnymen - Heaven Up Here (Crocodiles) Many fans would go with Crocs but I think HUH is just as good if not a little better 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Northern Voice 9,976 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I've said this in like twenty different threads here and RA already knows this but the answer is The Strokes' Room on Fire. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Northern Voice 9,976 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 17 hours ago, rockaction said: Here is a music thread because we're sorely lacking them on the front page these days (Where have all the countdowns gone? Never mind the rude boys). I plan on posting the '18 countdown results at some point, then doing a '19 songs draft, a '19 album poll, a '10-19 song draft and a '10-19 album poll over the next six months - you're all on notice. 1 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 22,919 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Northern Voice said: I plan on posting the '18 countdown results at some point, then doing a '19 songs draft, a '19 album poll, a '10-19 song draft and a '10-19 album poll over the next six months - you're all on notice. Heh. I was being tongue-in-cheek. You paint such worlds of possibility. I'm personally very much up for the '10-19 stuff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister CIA 8,173 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 3 hours ago, wikkidpissah said: Many of my favorite artists had their peak on their 3rd record - Yes w Fragile, Little Feat w Dixie Chicken, Laura Nyro w NY Tendaberry, Radiohead w OK Computer Digressin, lots of fun to be had over greatest debut, 2nd, 3rd, 4th records of all time. The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion ranks very near the top in greatest 2nd albums of all-time, backed up by critical acclaim, alas. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister CIA 8,173 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Is "alas" the greatest word of all time? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 22,919 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 Just now, Mister CIA said: Digressin, lots of fun to be had over greatest debut, 2nd, 3rd, 4th records of all time. The Southern Harmony and Musical Companion ranks very near the top in greatest 2nd albums of all-time, backed up by critical acclaim, alas. Steve Hoffman forum had a thread about the greatest fifth albums in existence. Interesting thread, but too many pictures and not enough reasoning behind why the albums were so good. They were just like lists out there in the ether. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 22,919 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Mister CIA said: Is "alas" the greatest word of all time? Donnie Darko says "cellar door" I say that "forsooth," "therefrom," and others are pretty good, too. "Therefrom" is just so mellifluous and utile at the same time. Love it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister CIA 8,173 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, rockaction said: Donnie Darko says "cellar door" I say that "forsooth," "therefrom," and others are pretty good, too. "Therefrom" is just so mellifluous and utile at the same time. Love it. Therefrom ...🥨 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mister CIA 8,173 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mister CIA said: Is "alas" the greatest word of all time? The prosecution rests. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-fish- 13,791 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Rock, I really enjoy this thread even with the misunderstandings. Have to add Led Zepppelin II. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-fish- 13,791 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I’d add Electric Version over Mass Romantic, but I’m not sure the first was critically acclaimed/popular enough to count. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zamboni 6,668 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 minutes ago, -fish- said: Rock, I really enjoy this thread even with the misunderstandings. Have to add Led Zepppelin II. Not sure this applies either, as both I and II are pretty equally revered. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 22,919 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, zamboni said: Not sure this applies either, as both I and II are pretty equally revered. 🤔 Wilco...Zep II :shrugs: life is what you make it Edited September 15, 2019 by rockaction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
-fish- 13,791 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, rockaction said: 🤔 Wilco...Zep II :shrugs: life is what you make it one of my favorite songs ever. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eephus 23,168 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Northern Voice said: I plan on posting the '18 countdown results at some point, then doing a '19 songs draft, a '19 album poll, a '10-19 song draft and a '10-19 album poll over the next six months - you're all on notice. Did we even submit 2018 lists Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Eulogys 44 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Depending on if you count an EP as a 1st album, Tool's "Undertow" was greater than "Opiate". If not, "Ænima" is greater than "Undertow". Queensryche's "Rage for Order" is greater than "The Warning" which is greater than the debut EP "Queensryche" And as great as "Mechanical Resonance" is, I feel Tesla's second release, "The Great Radio Controversy" is a better than the 1st album. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Floppo 27,862 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Eephus said: Did we even submit 2018 lists Yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleZen 292 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Paul's Boutique is the 1st one I thought of as well. On the flip side, Nirvana's "Nevermind" was a huge success but I didn't think it was as good as "Bleach." I loved the raw energy and sound on Bleach. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 22,919 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, UncleZen said: Paul's Boutique is the 1st one I thought of as well. On the flip side, Nirvana's "Nevermind" was a huge success but I didn't think it was as good as "Bleach." I loved the raw energy and sound on Bleach. Wow. That's a rare complaint, but if you were already steeped in Seatlle's sound, I can easily see it. Nevermind was such a departure. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
UncleZen 292 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 1 minute ago, rockaction said: Wow. That's a rare complaint, but if you were already steeped in Seatlle's sound, I can easily see it. Nevermind was such a departure. I wouldn't call it a complaint. I did enjoy Nevermind. I just liked Bleach better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ilov80s 29,025 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Does anyone think Congratulations is better than Oracular Spectacular? I don't but I thought the negative overreaction to Congratulations was insane. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Northern Voice 9,976 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 5 hours ago, Eephus said: 11 hours ago, Northern Voice said: I plan on posting the '18 countdown results at some point, then doing a '19 songs draft, a '19 album poll, a '10-19 song draft and a '10-19 album poll over the next six months - you're all on notice. Did we even submit 2018 lists I think I got like 13, which is why I wasn't super motivated for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 22,919 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Ilov80s said: Does anyone think Congratulations is better than Oracular Spectacular? I don't but I thought the negative overreaction to Congratulations was insane. That's awesome. No way was Congratulations better, but I'd love to hear that defense. Totally in the spirit of the thread, and a post after my own local heart. (MGMT is from CT, like literally two doors away from old stomping grounds.) Edited September 15, 2019 by rockaction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Northern Voice 9,976 Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, rockaction said: That's awesome. No way was Congratulations better, but I'd love to hear that defense. I'm not passionate enough about either album to make the case but 'It's Working' is pretty easily my favourite song of theirs over the big singles from Oracular Edited September 15, 2019 by Northern Voice Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rockaction 22,919 Posted September 15, 2019 Author Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) Just now, Northern Voice said: I'm not passionate enough about either album to make the case but 'It's Working' is pretty my favourite song if theirs over the big singles from Oracular Huh. I'll have to check it out. That was an instant revulsion listen, Congratulations was. Edited September 15, 2019 by rockaction Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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