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2023 Pittsburgh Steelers. Banged up team loses to Buffalo. Looking ahead to 2024 now (10 Viewers)
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Drunken Cowboy
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I actually think he is the worst case scenario for drafting a QB. He could be good enough to start, but I don't see him ever being a better than average starter. He would just block the team from drafting and developing somebody else.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Basically how I view him, especially the bolded, but a little lower on his ceiling. I hope the bar they are setting is higher than that for a 1st round selection.Drunken Cowboy said:
The only guy I have much interest for in this class is the kid from UNR. I think he's got the best combination of current skill set, necessary size/arm, and "projectable" potential to be a playoff caliber NFL QB. He isn't in the mold of the "QB nouveau" teams seem to be after these days (i.e. he's more "mobile in the pocket" than he is "a mobile QB"), but the dude can read defenses and chuck the hell out of it. If his knee is 100%, that's the only guy I'd want them taking a shot on with a first this year.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
If you waste a draft pick on a punter, they really shouldn't suck
irish eyes
Footballguy
Exactly, he has to freakin go, asap. Jordan berry is all pro level compared to this clown.
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
Unbelievably, they could control their own destiny for the division by the end of the week.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
This offense is vomit inducing though. :( 4 turnovers and you get 16 points? Gag.
Even if they somehow managed to back into the playoffs theyre a one and done team almost fo' sho'. Hardly worth it in the long run (im sure the organization disagrees though).
Drunken Cowboy
Footballguy
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Damn, tough crowd
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I'll say.
The offense wasn't very good but they did enough to win the game. The run blocking is still a disaster but not surprising considering the Titans have a great run defense. The Steelers defense was shaky at times but opportunistic.
I expect we will take a shellacking this week on the road against the Chiefs but the other teams in the division don't have cakewalks either
Bengals: vs Ravens, vs Chiefs, @ Browns
Browns: @ Packers, @ Steelers, vs Bengals
Ravens: @ Bengals, vs Rams, vs Steelers
Overall I still see us finishing at 8-8-1 and missing the playoffs. The tie makes a wildcard almost impossible without a sweep of our remaining games. It's good to still be in the hunt though and we will be going into the Browns game in Week 17 at least.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
Should be cut immediately but I reckon at this point in the season they wouldn't want to change holders.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Ok, now we just need to beat the Chiefs, the #1 seed in the AFC, NBD.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Three Steelers lead their positions in the AFC Pro Bowl fan voting which just completed. TJ Watt led all linebackers in fan voting but the other two were quite a surprise:
Punter Pressley Harvin and kick returner Ray-Ray McCloud
Punter Pressley Harvin and kick returner Ray-Ray McCloud
steelers1080
Footballguy
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Three Steelers lead their positions in the AFC Pro Bowl fan voting which just completed. TJ Watt led all linebackers in fan voting but the other two were quite a surprise:
Punter Pressley Harvin and kick returner Ray-Ray McCloud
Apparently Harvin's dad is terminally ill and they just got news last week that he did not have much longer to live. The Steelers got his dad and also sick mother to the game last week so that they could see him play one last time together. Might be why his concentration was a bit off.
Also, apparently the Chiefs have a major COVID outbreak. Could have 10+ players on the COVID list by the end of today. Game in jeopardy.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The NFL should have learned it’s lesson that postponing games a few days doesn’t help and potentially makes it worse (ask the Seahawks about that)
It also really screws with people that have bought tickets, flights, hotels, etc.
They should follow through with what they said they were going to do at the beginning of the season. Play the game or forfeit.
Otherwise pause the season 3-4 weeks in the hopes the situation gets better and play the Super Bowl in March.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
It was only a forfeit if the lack of players was due to them not being vaccinated.
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Not sure if the rule has been changed, but it used to be that if a team forfeited, neither team got paid.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
You may be right but postponing games is stupid and unfair to everyone except the team with the outbreak.
I would rather they take a month off and hope things get better, otherwise cancel the season.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Wouldn't it just be great if the Steelers got screwed by other teams getting COVID 2 years in a row? Just great.
Just play the damn game, if Mahomes still plays then the Chiefs probably win either way. I don't want our team to get less rest before taking on the Browns and Ravens, 2 winnable games.
Just play the damn game, if Mahomes still plays then the Chiefs probably win either way. I don't want our team to get less rest before taking on the Browns and Ravens, 2 winnable games.
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
I don't know how they're doing that either.They aren't winning with that offense, they're winning with that defense
They flat out can't stop ANYONE from running all over them at the moment. D'onta Foreman? Eesh. Walter Abercrombie wants to come outta retirement and suit up for the Chiefs this week.crushedspirit
Footballguy
NFL should just pause the season, or pack it in. Such a diluted product now, and all these games are being played with unfair advantages, one way or the other.
or just play. this situation is x10, but injuries and illnesses create advantages every week, every year.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Steelers placed two players on Covid list today: OT Zach Banner and LB Marcus Allen
crushedspirit
Footballguy
These are not normal circumstances. The NHL put their league on hold for a reason. Watching teams like WFT and Cleveland play with a competitive disadvantage is a joke in my opinion, especially when fighting for a playoff spot. Either let them all play, or don't play at all.
really? i'm not very emotionally invested in whatever they decide to do, but the NFL runs (sells) games. games have rules. they created rules re: covid in the off season. i would prefer they follow those rules.
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crushedspirit
Footballguy
Rules change as they go, as have the Covid protocols. Again, some other professional leagues had rules in place, yet are postponing matches since this Covid situation is ever evolving.
Questioning whether this is normal?
Godsbrother
Footballguy
The NFL had rules in place, they should have followed them IMO
To me there are the following options:
1) Play the games as scheduled.
2) Postpone the season and resume when the Covid surge ends (this could be a month or more)
3) End the season now and use the current standings to seed the teams. Put the playoff teams in a bubble for 2-3 weeks and start the playoffs on time.
4) Cancel the entire season
To me #1 is the obvious choice.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Devin Bush placed on COVID list, that makes 3 so far.
My guess is that KC players come off the list in time for Sunday, just as 10 Steelers players go on the list and the NFL decides not to push the game. Then on the 3rd play of the game our 5th string OLB named Joe Shmo McGo tackles Pat Mahomes and breaks both his arms and legs and the Steelers end up winning the game.
My guess is that KC players come off the list in time for Sunday, just as 10 Steelers players go on the list and the NFL decides not to push the game. Then on the 3rd play of the game our 5th string OLB named Joe Shmo McGo tackles Pat Mahomes and breaks both his arms and legs and the Steelers end up winning the game.
crushedspirit
Footballguy
Other professional leagues are going option #2, or postponing individual games to a future date, including NBA, NHL, and EPL in Europe. NCAA basketball is postponing and cancelling games.
NFL is the only league going down the current path. That part is obvious.
ChiefD
Footballguy
I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this.
All I was hoping for was a good game. My brother is supposed to be in town for Christmas for the first time in two years and this was the ONE game we would be able to watch together. And now it's going to be diluted tremendously - looking like both sides at this point.
Just bummed about it. Hopefully both teams get guys back and its a somewhat fair matchup.
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
If you could postpone the season one or even two weeks and be assured the problem would be over then I would agree.
The problem is the surge likely won't be over for a month or more. Delaying that long will require the season to resume in late January and playing playoffs in mid to late February . The thought of playing February games in cold market cities is not pleasant.
I don't think there is a good alternative so I would just try to play the games as scheduled.
steelers1080
Footballguy
No further cases on Wednesday I don't think, so it could be the end of people popping positive, and if they're vaxxed then Hill and Kelce have decent shots to play this week.I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this.
All I was hoping for was a good game. My brother is supposed to be in town for Christmas for the first time in two years and this was the ONE game we would be able to watch together. And now it's going to be diluted tremendously - looking like both sides at this point.
Just bummed about it. Hopefully both teams get guys back and its a somewhat fair matchup.
steelers1080
Footballguy
Steelers losing Klemm (O-line coach) to Oregon after the season is over. Apparently he's one of the top college recruiters in the nation. I'm not sure if he's done a great job with our O-line this season or not. With 2 rookies starting and overall very limited experience along the line, and with backups filling in regularly, I think it's hard to judge. I don't think we'll really know until next year if the line gets better or worse with a similar makeup, but we could have 2-3 different starters along the line next year so we may never know.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
I feel safe in saying that he has done a poor job this season. The offensive line is abysmal and that may be due to lack of experience/talent but they haven’t improved at all during the course of the season.steelers1080 said:
I am fine with his departure
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Anthony McFarland Jr. and defensive tackle Isaiah Buggs placed on Covid list.
Sunday can’t get here quick enough
Sunday can’t get here quick enough
5-ish Finkle
Footballguy
Freiermuth out w/concussion also.
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Steelers signed 2 punters and made a handful of other moves to bolster the offensive line and add depth on practice squad.
It’s hard to imagine either punter being much of a downgrade but I am concerned as Harvin is Boswell’s holder. I hope that doesn’t come into play today.
Freiermuth missing today will hurt. Bush is also out and as disappointed as he has been, he still is a starting ILB.
.It would have been nice if Hill was out today but he has been cleared to play. The Chiefs activated Kelce with the hope that he will clear Covid protocol so we will see.
Overall I am expecting a butt whooping today. Chiefs 30 Steelers 17
I would take a Christmas miracle though…
It’s hard to imagine either punter being much of a downgrade but I am concerned as Harvin is Boswell’s holder. I hope that doesn’t come into play today.
Freiermuth missing today will hurt. Bush is also out and as disappointed as he has been, he still is a starting ILB.
.It would have been nice if Hill was out today but he has been cleared to play. The Chiefs activated Kelce with the hope that he will clear Covid protocol so we will see.
Overall I am expecting a butt whooping today. Chiefs 30 Steelers 17
I would take a Christmas miracle though…
Godsbrother
Footballguy
Truly dreadful game. It would be too easy to list the negatives so let's list the positives:
The replacement punter looked pretty good.
The replacement punter looked pretty good.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Not sure I agree. They have some skilled players on both sides of the ball. Oline, dline, and replacing edmonds are top priority for next year. Maybe Ben comes back — he hasn’t been terrible, but the play calls have been. Doesn’t appear a Ben replacement is in this draft anyway.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
That was embarrassing though. Think that was the first time I have had a network switch away from a Steelers game, to show something “more competitive”
Boone22
Footballguy
The sad part was when they switched away, they went to showing LV kneeling down to run out the clock.
Dizzy
Footballguy
To be a Steelers fan for as long as I have is to root for championships. Not winning that with Ben... not with Rudolph... not with any QB behind that line. Not interested in 10-7 teams that play hard and lose in early round of playoffs.
They have some nice pieces I agree, just not the right ones in the right places to hoist a Lombardi.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Godsbrother
Footballguy
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