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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (20 Viewers)
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BeTheMatch
Footballguy
BassNBrew
Footballguy
Momma Cappy have a rendezvous with the milk man? Hard to imagine two people more different.
Capella
Footballguy
Lol we do have different dads. My sister was pretty reasonable for most of her life but then moved to the Deep South and then married some super religious guy 10 years ago and now she’s a completely different person. It sucks. Don’t even like talking to her anymore.
CR69
Footballguy
I have a step sibling like that. Haven’t talked in a long time. Does she wear a seatbelt or is that part of god’s plan too?
top dog
Footballguy
Update on the home front. My son is now 7 days since his first symptoms came about. Still isolating in his room with exclusive access to the upstairs bathroom. Being 20 he has had pretty mild symptoms. Dry cough, congestion, sore throat. Never developed a fever. He has been feeling better the last couple days so that is good.
My wife and I are still symptom free. :FingersCrossed:
My wife and I are still symptom free. :FingersCrossed:
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Just read about a program where college kids studying french were getting paired up with senior citizens in isolation in france. Gives the students good practive with an actual french speaker and gives the french speaker somebody to talk to and mentor, which is far more rewarding to many people.
Pretty cool.
Pretty cool.
TripItUp
Footballguy
I Have no fear because I'm under 60, in great shape, with no pre-existing conditions.
And the statistics back up that I should have no fear.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Massive inexplicable downtrend in WI hospitalizations, but I will take it.
top dog
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
Oh yea I say that kind of stuff to her and she goes “it’s fine we don’t have to agree I still love you and so does god”
CR69
Footballguy
At least she’s consistent?Oh yea I say that kind of stuff to her and she goes “it’s fine we don’t have to agree I still love you and so does god”
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
Two out of everyone ain’t bad.Oh yea I say that kind of stuff to her and she goes “it’s fine we don’t have to agree I still love you and so does god”
Capella
Footballguy
Angry Beavers
Footballguy
Until the vaccine has been tested do we want to put it into our youth? Granted, it has not really been tested in adults either. Also, they seem to not have bad effects from it from what i understand.
beer 30
Footballguy
Rich Conway
Footballguy
Rich Conway
Footballguy
Drove past the mall (on the way to curbside pickup for some stuff) in the next town over yesterday. This is in a pretty strongly "COVID is serious, 100% mask compliance" area. Parking lot was about 75% of "normal" for this time of year. OK, I get that it was cold and rainy yesterday, and people are getting stir-crazy, but I can't think of many worse places to be.
FairWarning
Footballguy
I would rank them Public Transportation and flying, Casinos, Malls. I'm passing on all three.
top dog
Footballguy
In case anyone is looking for some higher quality masks... this is a pretty good deal on a reputable KN95 mask... 10 for $10. https://slickdeals.net/f/14664017-10-pack-powecom-kn95-fda-authorized-respirator-ear-loop-mask-10-free-s-h?src=SiteSearchV2Algo1
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I figured it was only a matter of time before we transitioned from "it's just a flu, bro" to more conventional anti-vaxxer stuff.Angry Beavers said:
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
The anti vaxxers are going to run wild once the vaccine starts being injected.
If you give millions of doses to people that live in nursing homes you are going to have a bunch of them die. Not because of the vaccine of course, but because a high % of them die and people will of course overreact.
Which will become a huge cluster because of course now the people that have been saying all along that x% of nursing home residents die within 6 months will become the people overreacting to their deaths. And of course the other side will now be all like hey knock it off antivaxxer they were going to die within six months anyway.
Even some of the asian countries paused their vaccine programs this year because of panic over elderly people dying not long after getting the shot and that is a long established vaccination.
Yay. I look forward to all of it.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This would be infuriating if we were talking about measles vaccines or something like that. With covid though, it's fine. Just give me your place in line and we'll call it good.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Some of the concern about these covid vaccines is worthwhile. Both the Pfizer and Moderna vaccine are mRNA based, and AFAIK there are no other vaccines widely deployed that use this technique. That's not to say it's not safe, but long term effects aren't known yet.
Nonetheless, I'd roll the dice on getting the vaccine with safe short and medium term effects vs getting COVID and would advocate doing so for the general public to reduce the impact on those most at risk from a debilitating covid infection.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
This is an outstanding point by the way, because it's completely predictable. If you vaccinate a million people -- or even just give a million people a sugar pill -- some totally predictable number of them will go on in the next few months to suffer heart attacks, strokes, cancer diagnoses, etc. Combine that fact with the post hoc fallacy that we know people are highly prone to, and we've got some really stupid news cycles coming our way.
top dog
Footballguy
I don't know anything about them either except Slickdeals folks do a decent job of identifying garbage sites. I was able to pay with paypal, so I wasn't too worried about it.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
If they are nursing home residents hundreds of them will die within two days.
eta: think it might actually be thousands, but dont feel like looking up the stats.
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gianmarco
Footballguy
This is exactly the case with the continued concern of links between autism and MMR vaccines. It's given at year of age 1 through 15 months and that's often when symptoms of autism begin (12-18 months). Thus, you still have parents who swear that symptoms of autism started shortly after the MMR vaccine. And they are absolutely right. Except it had nothing to do with the vaccine and everything to do with the natural timing.
culdeus
Footballguy
There needs to be some sort of auto-moderation when this type of post comes out, as it's dangerous. Facebook/Twitter are putting banners under this type of thing.
By FAR the most likely situation is that the mRNA vax causes is we return to normal life but can't get the vax out fast enough to enough people before the effect wears off and starting the cycle all over again. The second most likely bad outcome is the vaccine promotes some sort of mutation/strain that is worse than what is currently present, again putting us in a bad cycle all over again.
There is nearly zero risk this causes direct harm to people getting it. There's just not a mechanism for it, and this type of slant tries to hype up the danger with the "mRNA based" because it sounds scary when at least that part of it is the least risky part. Far less risky than a live virus, which was sort of the point of developing this tech as live virus vax can cause severe reactions.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
I don't think the science is that conclusive as you state. I'm not hyping the danger at all and thought that my post was pretty level headed considering that I said I want to get it now.
I agree about your "most likely" scenario statements, but disagree about the "nearly zero risk" statement. We'll know more when the underlying data for EUA is published and long term follow up studies are performed.
By far much more good will come from these mRNA vaccines than bad.
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Jackstraw
Footballguy
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Are there vendors that you recommend? I’ve read disaster stories about ordering these masks and them being a mess.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
This
Is where i got them. 3 transactions with no issues. My sisters have bought a couple times too. Ebay reviews almost all solid too so i dont think my experience is just anecdotal
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Courtjester
The Town Drunk
317,000 positive reviews--seems like a solid seller. I ordered a pack of 10 for $16.
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
Just found out that my Aunt has Covid. She is in a nursing home due to dementia. Only two of the 15 residents tested positive. They are now testing all of the staff. The place has been locked down since April. This is not good.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Sammy3469
Footballguy
I mean basically all of California shuts down tonight at midnight which isn't exactly winning.
FairWarning
Footballguy
Yes, forgot to mention them because we have been shut down in Michigan. I went to an Indiana bar for work last week and no masks, or social distancing, everyone smoking.
FairWarning
Footballguy
I got a shingles and tetanus vax today. The dr told me that the tetanus vax also has a whooping cough vax. I thought that was long gone. Is it back because of the anti-vaxxers?
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
Uline has a restriction(at least last I spoke to our rep). If you havent bought them previously, you likely arent getting them.
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
A team of researchers has found that the resurgence of pertussis, more commonly known as whooping cough, in the US is a predictable consequence of incomplete coverage with a highly effective vaccine.
Seems like you are probably right.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
You went to a bar in the middle of a plague for work? You guys were discussing something that coudln't be done over Zoom? Not hating-legit curious.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Not long gone, but outbreaks are not very common. However, they are more common now due to decreased vaccination rates. I think numbers are generally about 25,000 cases per year in the US.
You get it as a booster throughout life because immunity to it wanes. As adults, it's just an annoying, lingering cough, but the problem is, as adults, we are often the ones that pass it to susceptible children. Infants are particularly at risk to have severe consequences from it.
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FairWarning
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jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
Thank god. . We should all be blessed that nobody elses health matters outside of yours.
jvdesigns2002
Footballguy
And? You don't have to go to a bar to sell anything regardless of what state you are in. This is why this country is having such a hard time getting passed this thing. People are literally voluntarily exposing themselves to the disease for no reason and then are shocked by the numbers and are complaining about the ramifications created by those numbers. Are you trying to claim that you couldn't make your sales and do your job without having to go to a bar?
