DocHolliday
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Not soon enough. Chances of Raiders making the playoffs in 2021 are slim to none.Looks like Gruden will be back in the booth soon on Monday Nights.
Not soon enough. Chances of Raiders making the playoffs in 2021 are slim to none.Looks like Gruden will be back in the booth soon on Monday Nights.
This is why I can’t stand Gruden. The LV D is awful. There are holes all over so Gruden reaches for a OT.Thanks for the update.
100%I’d be speechless if I wasn’t expecting this to happen yet again ...
I don't really agree. We have two holes. RT and FS.This is why I can’t stand Gruden. The LV D is awful. There are holes all over so Gruden reaches for a OT.
Gruden is probably watching Netflix at home. He can’t actually be trying to make good picks. His picks since coming to the Raiders have been awful at best.Was Gruden in the draft room? I didn't see him
You crack me up. No matter who Gruden chose, you were going to like it. It’s over Chad. Gruden is gone in two seasons.I don't really agree. We have two holes. RT and FS.
I think we got players on the D line. We have starting LBs that can play. I don't think there is a FS worth getting there. Tackles are a 1st round position and we needed one.
Could we have gone JOK to upgrade LB? Yes but it wouldn't have filled a need like this does. We really didn't have a RT. We otherwise would have had to send Good to RT. Now we can keep Good where he us really good at G and fill that RT.
I don't know enough about the player to say one way or another but the position pick makes sense.
He was not visible. There was ZERO energy, visible in the room. Mayock was walking around. There seemed to be no excitement.Was Gruden in the draft room? I didn't see him
You’re right. It was a position of need.I don't really agree. We have two holes. RT and FS.
I think we got players on the D line. We have starting LBs that can play. I don't think there is a FS worth getting there. Tackles are a 1st round position and we needed one.
Could we have gone JOK to upgrade LB? Yes but it wouldn't have filled a need like this does. We really didn't have a RT. We otherwise would have had to send Good to RT. Now we can keep Good where he us really good at G and fill that RT.
I don't know enough about the player to say one way or another but the position pick makes sense.
How could there be energy? The staff probably had 15 to 30 players ranked higher than Leatherhead but know they have to use Grudens list that he scribbled on a napkin, which only includes players from Clemson or Bama.He was not visible. There was ZERO energy, visible in the room. Mayock was walking around. There seemed to be no excitement.
I didn't say I liked it.You crack me up. No matter who Gruden chose, you were going to like it. It’s over Chad. Gruden is gone in two seasons.
But you don’t draft a player in the first round you can draft in the second round. You take the BPA for one of the many positions of need.I didn't say I liked it.
I am consistent. Way before the draft I have saying we had two holes, RT and FS.
Just like Kolton Miller. Horrible pick, reach, "lots of teams have him later" or maybe not a LT. I remember that pick being destroyed.But you don’t draft a player in the first round you can draft in the second round. You take the BPA for one of the many positions of need.
Here is the thing I hate about the trade back...Gruden MO is to reach for need. Leatherwood might be a fine player, even worthy of mid 1st rd eventually. Still not smart to not trade down a few slots to take him, especially in a draft deep in OT talent.
Then you take the freaking safety, or Jaelen Philips. You don't reach like thatHere is the thing I hate about the trade back...
You need a partner. I remember the Raiders trading back in the past and not getting a lot out of it and guess what? Fans blasted them for bot getting the value out of the pick. If you find a report of someone offering a trade of value to move back a few spots and we turned it down... I will get my pitchfork with you.
Miller was rated higher. But that’s not the point. Leatherwood would have been available in the 2nd.Just like Kolton Miller. Horrible pick, reach, "lots of teams have him later" or maybe not a LT. I remember that pick being destroyed.
It isn't sexy, that is for dang sure. Is it a bad pick? I don't know. I love Good at G now. If he ends up like Miller but at RT, I will be very happy.
The raiders haven’t covered a TE in 15 years. I pick TE’s, in daily ff, that are playing against the raiders. Winning!Maybe they got him confused with someone who can cover Travis Kelce?
I need more info. Do you have anything?that dude was a BEAST early on in his career. I don't know what the details are of his decline
I'd rather they be right than make Mel Kiper happy. Gareon Conley was a great value and look how that turned out for us. All I care is that we get the pick right - if he turns out to be a really good player that's way more important that taking "value" and getting that wrong then missing the opportunity cost waiting for the next pick.I get the whole “gotta have a dance partner” argument when we don’t trade down. But how is that the argument every year? We reach every year.
Outland Trophy winner and will probably end up a solid pro but just once I want to see them get incredible value instead of virtually everyone saying WTF!
Agreed.I'd rather they be right than make Mel Kiper happy. Gareon Conley was a great value and look how that turned out for us. All I care is that we get the pick right - if he turns out to be a really good player that's way more important that taking "value" and getting that wrong then missing the opportunity cost waiting for the next pick.
agree with both.Agreed.
But no one else reached. No one.
The Falcons needed defense. They took the best player.
Raiders fell in love with their guy, and didn't care that no one ranks him there. Smart teams get their guy, and a 3rd and a 4th
The fact that no other team pounced on either one of these guys after the Raiders passed on them shows they weren't worthy of 1st round picks.On the other hand, we would have loved JOK or Moehrig, and neither is a 1st rounder.
Yet
a million times this. Scoreboard...as in we look at the scoreboard and we're always losing.Now if this were a winning organization, the draft strategy would have merit. Its been 19 years since their last playoff win, their way isn't working.
agreed. just think he could have been had on day 2I like the player. Sounds like a plug & play at RT or RG. Yes, it's need. Yes, it was a reach. Still sounds like a solid prospect to come in and start and play well from go. Let's see which three players tomorrow brings.
Mayock once again trying to be the smartest guy in the room. Seems like a reach there for sure, but some sites are giving it pretty good grades so who knows.Mayock was walking around. There seemed to be no excitement.
Awesome. He can watch the playoffs from home or the library instead of a bar.High character guy