Chaka
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Respectable poster absolutely! But still trying to cast a hex on the Raiders!ChiefD is a very respectable poster, this is off base.
I get it but Raider gris-gris is strong!
Respectable poster absolutely! But still trying to cast a hex on the Raiders!ChiefD is a very respectable poster, this is off base.
Not really.Respectable poster absolutely! But still trying to cast a hex on the Raiders!
I get it but Raider gris-gris is strong!
Don't ruin this for me by being reasonable and posting well considered opinions.Not really.
This Raiders team is different - at least so far. To me they are showing a confidence and swagger that reminds me of the old Raiders teams. And that's pretty scary.
They have something the Chiefs don't have right now - attitude. The Chiefs, in my opinion, have gotten a little complacent and are just assuming they can roll the ball out and no matter what happens Mahomes is going to rescue them at the end.
That Ravens game for the Chiefs was a gut-punch, because THAT is the game Mahomes usually pulls out at the end, and he didn't this time.
This Chiefs team has some weird mojo swirling around them in my opinion. I think they are vulnerable this year, and I'm starting to get the feeling that they are more like the Packers (win one Super Bowl with Rodgers and get close for the next 15 years) than the Patriots (always in the Super Bowl).
The Chiefs fancy themselves more like the Patriots. I don't see it. Our GM has made a ton of mistakes in the draft that will really play itself out over the next few years as Mahomes cap number gets more restrictive.
Meanwhile, Carr is playing out of his mind and Gruden and Mayock have somehow put together the Island of Misfit Toys with their draft but somehow it just works. And when you add that swagger - watch out.
This will be fun to watch for sure. The Raiders are for real, IMO.
I do actually agree with your take on the Chiefs. We saw a bit of the same when Reid was coaching in Philadelphia. He coaches teams to a lot of wins but his reputation was always that he couldn't quite get his teams over the hump. If not for Patrick Mahomes who, iirc, is the one who pushed for the play call on that big pass play to Tyreek that turned around the SB vs SF, that narrative about Reid would stand.Not really.
This Raiders team is different - at least so far. To me they are showing a confidence and swagger that reminds me of the old Raiders teams. And that's pretty scary.
They have something the Chiefs don't have right now - attitude. The Chiefs, in my opinion, have gotten a little complacent and are just assuming they can roll the ball out and no matter what happens Mahomes is going to rescue them at the end.
That Ravens game for the Chiefs was a gut-punch, because THAT is the game Mahomes usually pulls out at the end, and he didn't this time.
This Chiefs team has some weird mojo swirling around them in my opinion. I think they are vulnerable this year, and I'm starting to get the feeling that they are more like the Packers (win one Super Bowl with Rodgers and get close for the next 15 years) than the Patriots (always in the Super Bowl).
The Chiefs fancy themselves more like the Patriots. I don't see it. Our GM has made a ton of mistakes in the draft that will really play itself out over the next few years as Mahomes cap number gets more restrictive.
Meanwhile, Carr is playing out of his mind and Gruden and Mayock have somehow put together the Island of Misfit Toys with their draft but somehow it just works. And when you add that swagger - watch out.
This will be fun to watch for sure. The Raiders are for real, IMO.
That’s 3 weeks minimum, correct? Week 7 at the earliest. More likely week 9, after the bye. That blows.Incognito to IR according to PFT.
have fun dude!!Pulled the trigger on the purchase. Section 132 2nd row. Now to get a new Raider shirt and hat get over to the stadium.
RAIDERS!
good question. especially at that priceWhy did they even pay to get drake?
Who cares? Apparently it's working.Why did they even pay to get drake?
As someone who started Drake today. I careWho cares? Apparently it's working.
Take it to the WDIS thread.As someone who started Drake today. I care
Great win, but I don't think Gruden knows the OT rules. Should have kicked field goal on third down and shouldn't have run clock down to three seconds to kick the FG. But anyway.....3-0!!!!!!!
I keep seeing people complaining about this, but I like running the clock down. If you miss (other than a blocked return) then at least you tie. Kicking and missing with 1 minute left gives the Dolphins time to win. We know how that worked out last year.
Hopefully Gruden and the Raiders learned some lessons from today’s game. The Raiders should have been in control of this game from the beginning but instead had to squeak out a win. Gruden makes horrendous decisions at times.
W accept it and move on.
Okay, but whenever I hear people talk about bad decisions highly successful professional coaches make I...wonder about a lot of things people think.Hopefully Gruden and the Raiders learned some lessons from today’s game. The Raiders should have been in control of this game from the beginning but instead had to squeak out a win. Gruden makes horrendous decisions at times.
I sent joe your text to me. Sorry about your time out.I was worried about passing out leaving the game from being lightheaded from yelling so much. My voice is on the verge of going out. Awesome seats (my wife is like "wow. Nice seats" meaning she expects a very pricey gift, gonna have to show her it was not as expensive as she thinks)... fun game to go to... and most importantly 3-0. I am worn out. Probably just get dinner and stay in tonight to recuperate and be ready for the Stadium tour tomorrow then fly back. Thoughts on the game later...
P.S. Yes, the Excalibur is a dump.
Going for it on 4th down, on your own 35?, in the 1st quarter, right after giving up a pick 6, when you haven’t been able to run the ball very effectively for the 1st two games of the season, was a really bad call. Epically bad*. Arm chair qb’s aren’t going away.Okay, but whenever I hear people talk about bad decisions highly successful professional coaches make I...wonder about a lot of things people think.
I don't mean to call you out Doc, you're a good guy and I have always liked you, my following comments are generic but you did inspire them, I hope that's okay. If not, well I am sincerely sorry.
But does any weekend warrior, magic football player who posts here really think they could consistently make better better decisions in all situations over multiple years while designing one of the most effective offenses in the NFL today?
Look, NFL coaches are not perfect, even Bill Belichik makes mistakes in game and in the coaches room. Some coaches make horrible decisions, worthy of criticism, on camera in front of millions of people. But whenever I hear people complain on message boards I always wonder which coach I see on the sidelines every Sunday is hiding behind their anonymous user name.
In retrospect Gruden probably should have kicked the game winner with more time on the clock, my guess is he would agree. But he didn't and the Raiders won. Would they have been in the position to win in that moment if you (not you specifically Doc) designed the offense, called all the offensive plays and coached that game?
3-0 Let's enjoy it.
Again, not about you Doc apologies of it comes off otherwise.
And this is not directed at you specifically but why do some fans never take off the rose colored glasses?Okay, but whenever I hear people talk about bad decisions highly successful professional coaches make I...wonder about a lot of things people think.
I don't mean to call you out Doc, you're a good guy and I have always liked you, my following comments are generic but you did inspire them, I hope that's okay. If not, well I am sincerely sorry.
But does any weekend warrior, magic football player who posts here really think they could consistently make better better decisions in all situations over multiple years while designing one of the most effective offenses in the NFL today?
Look, NFL coaches are not perfect, even Bill Belichik makes mistakes in game and in the coaches room. Some coaches make horrible decisions, worthy of criticism, on camera in front of millions of people. But whenever I hear people complain on message boards I always wonder which coach I see on the sidelines every Sunday is hiding behind their anonymous user name.
In retrospect Gruden probably should have kicked the game winner with more time on the clock, my guess is he would agree. But he didn't and the Raiders won. Would they have been in the position to win in that moment if you (not you specifically Doc) designed the offense, called all the offensive plays and coached that game?
3-0 Let's enjoy it.
Again, not about you Doc apologies of it comes off otherwise.
Okay, but whenever I hear people talk about bad decisions highly successful professional coaches make I...wonder about a lot of things people think.
I don't mean to call you out Doc, you're a good guy and I have always liked you, my following comments are generic but you did inspire them, I hope that's okay. If not, well I am sincerely sorry.
But does any weekend warrior, magic football player who posts here really think they could consistently make better better decisions in all situations over multiple years while designing one of the most effective offenses in the NFL today?
Look, NFL coaches are not perfect, even Bill Belichik makes mistakes in game and in the coaches room. Some coaches make horrible decisions, worthy of criticism, on camera in front of millions of people. But whenever I hear people complain on message boards I always wonder which coach I see on the sidelines every Sunday is hiding behind their anonymous user name.
In retrospect Gruden probably should have kicked the game winner with more time on the clock, my guess is he would agree. But he didn't and the Raiders won. Would they have been in the position to win in that moment if you (not you specifically Doc) designed the offense, called all the offensive plays and coached that game?
3-0 Let's enjoy it.
Again, not about you Doc apologies of it comes off otherwise.
I’m not a Gruden fan and dont hide it. It is easy to criticize him when he makes horrible decisions. Gruden runs a great offense but Carr is the reason that the Raiders are winning. He is playing at a MVP level even though he missed some throws yesterday that he normally makes. Gruden better make better decisions when competing against the strong teams in the AFC W or this 3-0 start will fade away as usual.I'm a huge Gruden fan, but he makes some mistakes. We come on here to discuss the game, good and bad. Part of the fun of following football and one particular team is analyzing the game and discussing what you thought went well and what you thought were mistakes. I don't see the issue with criticizing decisions that we thought were poor.