El Floppo
Footballguy
She's younger (mid 20s) and just became eligible more recently...also doesn't sound like she's interested in getting it.
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Kicked out of the office for having a cold (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter El Floppo
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
AAABatteries
Footballguy
Having a cold what?
Apple Jack
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
In the past, absolutely people would judge people who stay home because of a cold. Hopefully that changes, especially if we can work from home.
There was a concern that people would call in sick when they weren't. That still exists, and it probably should when that work needs to be done by someone else. But in an office when there isn't a REAL need to get that task done that day, or if it can be done remotely, people should be more willing to call in and stay home.
-OZ-
Footballguy
It's not like you can watch it in real time, as the virus tackles the next person. But I've definitely seen it happen where one day Bob isn't feeling great, a few days later Brenda isn't feeling great, etc. It's hard to see it unless you're looking for it.
Zegras11
Footballguy
I've seen it happen at the WSOP big time. 3-4 years ago, a lot of people got sick from each other.
Re: the bolded, maybe employers and society as a whole will start to realize that it's ok to take a day off, especially if you're not feeling well. It's definitely tough in some jobs (eg teachers), but few of us are so important that our jobs can't be put on pause a day.
Fair enough. In that context I can see where somebody would have thought it was over the top to stay home with a cold. But, IMO, hopefully that attitude changes. My kids bring home colds all the time from daycare, and I've definitely seen colds spread through the whole office, so I would consider a change in our collective attitudes about working while sick to be a good thing.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
I think might be something that changes more or less permanently thanks to the pandemic. I've worked at my current place of employment for 22 years, and I've used a grand total of 3 sick days. I regularly go to work with head colds and chest colds -- basically anything that doesn't involve my stomach or GI system. I don't think I'll be doing that any more -- WFH is certainly viable, but failing that there's very little reason not to dip into my ocean of accrued sick leave.
It's going to be weird the next time I have a bad cold. I know I'll be irrationally worried that it's covid-19. The fact that I can see this coming clear as day won't change things.
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McBokonon
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Hey boomer, It doesn’t have anything to do with “sucking it up.” I think most of us can work through a cold. It has to do with not bringing it into the office for others to catch, if able. I’m sure this was never possible in your day when everyone was digging coal and working the cotton gin, but a lot of people can work remotely now.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
You guys tell people what’s wrong when you call in sick?
McBokonon
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Saw it every year in the group that sat next to mine at work. The same woman would come in sick several times a year hacking up a lung, sniffling, etc. Within a week the entire division would be out sick.-OZ- said:
And yet our office director always leans heavily on people to always come into the office. It’s self-defeating I’m so many ways.
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Ghost Rider
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This happened to me back in November, along with two co-workers. Another co-worker was home for two weeks after testing positive with COVID, so when three of us all had the sniffles, we were all sent home for the day and had to get the test and work from home (if we were up to it) until we got the negative test back. I spent the rest of the day (sent home around 11 am) trying to find a place to get the test and then got it, worked from home the next day, and by the following morning, I had gotten the negative test back, was feeling mostly fine and was back in the office. Good times.
STEADYMOBBIN 22
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STEADYMOBBIN 22
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Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Probably the new normal period, especially if you are capable of working from home. No reason to "tough it out" and come into an office when you or someone in your household has a cold or is sick. This will help with flu and cold (coronavirus) season too.El Floppo said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22
Footballguy
You’re like the one dude in the office who still smokes cigarettes.Apple Jack said:
Apple Jack
Footballguy
X. But that's funny. Usually a contracts guy.
This is how everybody in my company operates with the exception of one or two people.
The Football Freak
Footballguy
What about asking people to put on a mask for source control when they have a cold, and have to come in/don’t want to stay home? I think this pandemic has changed a lot of attitudes about staying home with lighter viruses, but not for all, and some jobs just aren’t situated for much time off. I was just curious about attitudes towards something like that.
I work for myself at home, so I can’t kick out the sick people in my office.
I work for myself at home, so I can’t kick out the sick people in my office.
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Apple Jack
Footballguy
Never mind... doesn't land right
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Why can't you work from home?
El Floppo
Footballguy
otb_lifer
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how are the lounges/bars/cafes looking in your 'hood? i've been mostly hitting Midtown & Brooklyn/Queens/Eyeluhnd since getting back out - lost a ton of clients down your way
El Floppo
Footballguy
It's hopping.how are the lounges/bars/cafes looking in your 'hood? i've been mostly hitting Midtown & Brooklyn/Queens/Eyeluhnd since getting back out - lost a ton of clients down your way
I don't remember if the curfew is lifted or not, but the neighborhood is starting to feel back to doorway puking, 1am drunk screaming fights normal.
But there are still a bunch of spots that went under leaving graffiti covered storefronts.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
This seems like a bad employer. Do they let their full time workers (not freelance) do any work at home?
El Floppo
Footballguy
Yes.
It's a trust thing. And they're cheap. They actually have commented on my lunch and bathroom breaks. I've never thought about cheating a company over my time and will usually err on the side of absorbing a loss when it comes to 15-30 minutes here or there. I've never had my hours questioned or every minute so micromanaged...and it's hard not to find it insulting tbh.
They asked me to go to a job site in RI over night. But they only wanted to pay me for the time I was actually "working"- taking field measurements and surveying the existing house we are renovating- nothing for the 9 hours driving or spending the night away from my family. So like 6-8 hours over a 48 period. They were shocked that I should ask and get paid at least a daily rate for each day I was away from home...aka- at work.
I can't even explain what the freak out was about yesterday- so mindbottlingly stupid and unprofessional...and it's something different every day. And the work isn't even that interesting or good. But I've got mouths to feed and a roof to keep over our heads, so I just suck it all up. But speaking of sucking...it ####### sucks. Can't wait to gtfo.
Apple Jack
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The Z Machine
Footballguy
That's some BS. You're not 22 years old, fresh out of school, puking in doorways at night. Are you 1099 or W-2?
If 1099, you should consider making sure that's the right classification for you... If you know what I mean. #notalawyer
El Floppo
Footballguy
The Z Machine
Footballguy
There are
I'm no employment lawyer, but it sure sounds like you should look hard at your classification. See here: http://www.flexprofessionalsllc.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/1099-vs-W2-Checklist.pdf Check out that 20 point checklist.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Yeah... I'm stupidly stupid about a lot of this, considering it's my business. My wife, who's been an independent contractor a long time, set me up and guides me through it- I trust her research and understanding of it.
The way I understand it- because I run everything though my corporation, it's different. I've never received even a 1099 from employers. W2 was always strictly when I was an employee w benefits. Makes it more flexible for me in terms of taxes.
Or I've been doing it wrong all these years.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Maybe @bigbottom can shed some insight on what the paying company can demand in terms of on-site work, billing demands, etc. and whether you should really be classified as a W2 employee.
flapgreen
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
The Z Machine
Footballguy
That might be true, but maybe you could extract some concessions out of the client. I mean, they suck, so does it really matter if they give a you a bad reference?
El Floppo
Footballguy
El Floppo
Footballguy
This is a small interior design studio. Max concessions available are taking home outdated textile samples and hopefully getting all my paychecks (they're behind).
