Tell us what you like about him.May want to pay attention to his start tonight.
Not a bad comparison. Here in DC there has been a lot of talk about Morris the last few weeks. That he is a Shanahan type of RB, one cut down hill runner. He's good at maintaining a low pad level and does sort of remind you of Gary or a Mike Bell or other RBs who have enjoyed short term success in Shanahan's offenses.FWIW I like him better than Hightower coming back from his knee injury. But we'll see. Good chance Morris either makes the team outright or is stashed on the practice squad and plays later in the season.Olandis Gary reincarnated?
No thanks. I avoid all Washington RB's due to the headache they bring.May want to pay attention to his start tonight.
To best of my knowledge Shanahan has not named a starter as of yet but did have this quote.He's starting?
The Rat games begin already.“We kind of know what Royster can do, so a guy like Morris will get more reps in the second game than a guy like Royster, because we want to evaluate some of these guys and see what they can do in live situations,” Shanahan said on Wednesday.
I agree. The only way I touch them is put them on my team, let them blow up for one week or two weeks then I trade them. I don't like them on my team and wondering at game time if he's actually starting like his coach said he would.No thanks. I avoid all Washington RB's due to the headache they bring.May want to pay attention to his start tonight.
He's starting for one. And Helu isn't exactly one who will keep his job if Morris looks impressive.Tell us what you like about him.May want to pay attention to his start tonight.
Redskins | Alfred Morris may get start Fri Aug 17, 01:34 PM Washington Redskins RB Alfred Morris may get the start in the preseason game Saturday, Aug. 18, because the team wants to see what he can do against starters. Morris wants to improve on his yards per carry average and prove he can pass block.He's starting?
Interesting. So you would not draft a potential starting RB in the 16th round?No thanks. I avoid all Washington RB's due to the headache they bring.May want to pay attention to his start tonight.
Royster would be the only one I'd even think about drafting as of this second. If Morris changes my mind, so be it.He's starting for one. And Helu isn't exactly one who will keep his job if Morris looks impressive.Tell us what you like about him.May want to pay attention to his start tonight.
Whatever. We're talking about a late round flyer or wavier wire pickup?No thanks. I avoid all Washington RB's due to the headache they bring.May want to pay attention to his start tonight.
Did this with Torain last year..... Wash - Rinse - Repeat.I'll never understand why people haven't figured out how to capitalize on Shanny's view of RBs yet. It's a simple system:1. Buy the cheapest Washington RB you can find (or the 2 cheapest - depends on your confidence in the system)2. The minute that RB gets named the starter and has 1 solid performance, trade him3. Repeat
last 5 rushes combined for -4 yardsSaw the early stats, something like 4 carries for 37 yds, now it shows 10 carries 34 yds.
Exactly what I said above. It's what I do with Shanny RBs!I'll never understand why people haven't figured out how to capitalize on Shanny's view of RBs yet. It's a simple system:1. Buy the cheapest Washington RB you can find (or the 2 cheapest - depends on your confidence in the system)2. The minute that RB gets named the starter and has 1 solid performance, trade him3. Repeat
Didn't see your earlier post.Exactly what I said above. It's what I do with Shanny RBs!I'll never understand why people haven't figured out how to capitalize on Shanny's view of RBs yet. It's a simple system:1. Buy the cheapest Washington RB you can find (or the 2 cheapest - depends on your confidence in the system)2. The minute that RB gets named the starter and has 1 solid performance, trade him3. Repeat
I just don't want the headache (as you mentioned). So I'll pick a guy like him up knowing I don't need to start him (have Rice & Lynch) So I'll trade him after he has a big game and say "he's a starting RB" and his value is increased.Didn't see your earlier post.Exactly what I said above. It's what I do with Shanny RBs!I'll never understand why people haven't figured out how to capitalize on Shanny's view of RBs yet. It's a simple system:1. Buy the cheapest Washington RB you can find (or the 2 cheapest - depends on your confidence in the system)2. The minute that RB gets named the starter and has 1 solid performance, trade him3. Repeat
I hear people say this all the time, but it takes two to trade. Who is willing to buy Shannahan RB's at this point. How long has it been since Shanny has let a Rb start more than 5 games in a row.I'll never understand why people haven't figured out how to capitalize on Shanny's view of RBs yet. It's a simple system:1. Buy the cheapest Washington RB you can find (or the 2 cheapest - depends on your confidence in the system)2. The minute that RB gets named the starter and has 1 solid performance, trade him3. Repeat
If someone is desperate enough they will buy. Someone in your league will be hurting bad at RB and he'll listen. He'll give you something worth trading for.I hear people say this all the time, but it takes two to trade. Who is willing to buy Shannahan RB's at this point. How long has it been since Shanny has let a Rb start more than 5 games in a row.I'll never understand why people haven't figured out how to capitalize on Shanny's view of RBs yet. It's a simple system:1. Buy the cheapest Washington RB you can find (or the 2 cheapest - depends on your confidence in the system)2. The minute that RB gets named the starter and has 1 solid performance, trade him3. Repeat
Yeah, the real key is you can't get greedy. Be happy flipping a guy for a solid profit, rather than looking to win the freaking lottery. That's exactly what happened with Ryan Torain in my league last year...guy who owned him waited way too long to trade him, b/c he wanted too steep of a price....gotta flip quicklyIf someone is desperate enough they will buy. Someone in your league will be hurting bad at RB and he'll listen. He'll give you something worth trading for.I hear people say this all the time, but it takes two to trade. Who is willing to buy Shannahan RB's at this point. How long has it been since Shanny has let a Rb start more than 5 games in a row.I'll never understand why people haven't figured out how to capitalize on Shanny's view of RBs yet. It's a simple system:1. Buy the cheapest Washington RB you can find (or the 2 cheapest - depends on your confidence in the system)2. The minute that RB gets named the starter and has 1 solid performance, trade him3. Repeat
I don't think it's a bad league that requires to make a trade like this (if that's what you were implying). Everyone has players rated differently no matter what league your in. Also, with injuries and byes, someone will make that trade. You might not even get a new starter for your team but someone who could contribute if needed without the headache.I need to play in some of your leagues.I would never trade for one of those RB's, although I have picked up a few from waivers and started them. Gives your lineup some nice pop once in a while
Thanks that is helpfull. I have always tried to trade my player for what I would consider full value if he started the rest of the season. I know Shanny would never allow that to happen, but I would have to see the guy I traded getting 20 carries a game against for a slight upgrade at WR2.Yeah, the real key is you can't get greedy. Be happy flipping a guy for a solid profit, rather than looking to win the freaking lottery. That's exactly what happened with Ryan Torain in my league last year...guy who owned him waited way too long to trade him, b/c he wanted too steep of a price....gotta flip quicklyIf someone is desperate enough they will buy. Someone in your league will be hurting bad at RB and he'll listen. He'll give you something worth trading for.I hear people say this all the time, but it takes two to trade. Who is willing to buy Shannahan RB's at this point. How long has it been since Shanny has let a Rb start more than 5 games in a row.I'll never understand why people haven't figured out how to capitalize on Shanny's view of RBs yet. It's a simple system:1. Buy the cheapest Washington RB you can find (or the 2 cheapest - depends on your confidence in the system)2. The minute that RB gets named the starter and has 1 solid performance, trade him3. Repeat
This tempers my expectations.'Steel Dillo said:Back to Morris...
per Redskin's writer John Keim:
"Morris got off to a strong start with a 21-yard run on the opening play of the game. He really does well cutting in the backfield and avoiding traffic. Some of his best runs gain little yards because of the (lack of) blocking. But on the first play, Williams got to the linebacker, Maurice Hurt sealed the end, Chris Cooley threw a block. And Morris did the rest, gaining 20 yards after first contact. Do I need to say more about the lean? Didn’t think so. But I love how he makes himself smaller upon contact. Had one defender bounce off his shoulder pads on that first run. Morris only gained 13 more yards on his next nine runs, but the line did not help him out. I’ll be curious to see how many times someone was two yards deep on the backfield when he got the ball. Morris is still learning to pick up blitzes, however. He admitted after the game that he missed one on the sack-fumble. That was clear; he carried out his fake, but needed to anticipate faster and pick up the outside blitz. It’s a play that Clinton Portis used to routinely make. Morris needs to show that he can do this consistently and that hasn’t yet been the case. It is a major point of emphasis with these coaches — and especially so with a rookie quarterback."
He won't see the field if he can't pick up the blitz, but he's definitely a one cut & smash runner. With the o-line playing as badly as they did, he was lucky to put up the stats he did.
Yeah, the play where RG3 fumbled was really the fault of Morris. He massively failed on blitz pickup....disappointing, because otherwise he played quite well.'Steel Dillo said:Back to Morris...per Redskin's writer John Keim:"Morris got off to a strong start with a 21-yard run on the opening play of the game. He really does well cutting in the backfield and avoiding traffic. Some of his best runs gain little yards because of the (lack of) blocking. But on the first play, Williams got to the linebacker, Maurice Hurt sealed the end, Chris Cooley threw a block. And Morris did the rest, gaining 20 yards after first contact. Do I need to say more about the lean? Didn’t think so. But I love how he makes himself smaller upon contact. Had one defender bounce off his shoulder pads on that first run. Morris only gained 13 more yards on his next nine runs, but the line did not help him out. I’ll be curious to see how many times someone was two yards deep on the backfield when he got the ball. Morris is still learning to pick up blitzes, however. He admitted after the game that he missed one on the sack-fumble. That was clear; he carried out his fake, but needed to anticipate faster and pick up the outside blitz. It’s a play that Clinton Portis used to routinely make. Morris needs to show that he can do this consistently and that hasn’t yet been the case. It is a major point of emphasis with these coaches — and especially so with a rookie quarterback."He won't see the field if he can't pick up the blitz, but he's definitely a one cut & smash runner. With the o-line playing as badly as they did, he was lucky to put up the stats he did.
Anyone want to project?What are we talking here 256-1050-6 TD?
Share, why?Buy Royster. You'll thank me later.
He is one more fumble away from not seeing the field.If Hightower is healthy, he starts, followed by Helu, Royster, and a practice squad Morris. Now Helu is beat up also,and with this Oline this year I dont see any of these guys performing well. But Morris is Shanny's kind of back, he makes 1 cut and goes. He is Olandis Gary 2.0Buy Royster. You'll thank me later.
Based on what? Royster fumbled a handoff exchange but did not fumble in 65 touches last year (I know small sample) but has no ball security issues that I'm aware of.And I don't think anyone can speak with much certainty right now about the pecking order. There is a lot of talk of Hightower being the starter when healthy. I'll believe it when I see it. He just started practicing and despite a really good pre-season last year he really was not that effective in the reg. season before his injury.He is one more fumble away from not seeing the field.If Hightower is healthy, he starts, followed by Helu, Royster, and a practice squad Morris. Now Helu is beat up also,and with this Oline this year I dont see any of these guys performing well. But Morris is Shanny's kind of back, he makes 1 cut and goes. He is Olandis Gary 2.0Buy Royster. You'll thank me later.
I moved Royster for DeSean Jackson in a 14 team, RB heavy, non-PPR league.On a side note, I think you were selling low and will be happy you didn't move him for a late 2nd, or early 3rd round pick. Whoever the starter in Wash is will put up solid points. If that is Royster, you will get 1st round rookie value by the 4th week of the season.Just to follow up on trading the flavor of the week. I have offered Royster for late 2nd and early 3rd round rookie picks and no one is even thinking about it.
8/25 update: He changed my mind.Royster would be the only one I'd even think about drafting as of this second. If Morris changes my mind, so be it.He's starting for one. And Helu isn't exactly one who will keep his job if Morris looks impressive.Tell us what you like about him.May want to pay attention to his start tonight.
Have you watched his college film. Alf is a beast. Who else at the end of a draft gives you the possibility of being a starting RB?I am on the clock in the late portion of a rookie draft trying to talk myself out of picking him.He's a mediocre talent and he'll be on the pine in the near future. Or at least that's what it seems like.