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bet they wish they held onto Washington.Percy Harving is having surgery on his hip. Probably out until the last quarter of the season then.
Tate is in the mix to replace him.
bet they wish they held onto Washington.Percy Harving is having surgery on his hip. Probably out until the last quarter of the season then.
Tate is in the mix to replace him.
Are teams that desperate for a return only guy though?interestingly Tenn has both Darius Reynaud & Marc Mariani on their roster, if one is released (most likely Mariani) they would surely be scooped up by a return needed team
Mariani opens the preseason atop the depth chart for both punt returner and kick returner. Why would his roster spot be more in jeopardy than Reynaud's? Is it because he's just a return specialist, while Reynaud offers some sort of offensive ability?interestingly Tenn has both Darius Reynaud & Marc Mariani on their roster, if one is released (most likely Mariani) they would surely be scooped up by a return needed team
I sent a note to see if they can double check the data load of the projections for him. He should have 196 kick return yards. I spot checked a number of other players and everyone else I checked looked ok.Noticing return yards aren't putting Devin McCourty in the mix with mobile app projections. Was he left out by mistake?
Just from the blips from roto i guessMariani opens the preseason atop the depth chart for both punt returner and kick returner. Why would his roster spot be more in jeopardy than Reynaud's? Is it because he's just a return specialist, while Reynaud offers some sort of offensive ability?interestingly Tenn has both Darius Reynaud & Marc Mariani on their roster, if one is released (most likely Mariani) they would surely be scooped up by a return needed team
There was a problem with his player ID in the app. Dodds said the fix is cycling through the system and should be good to go once it goes through.Greg Russell said:I sent a note to see if they can double check the data load of the projections for him. He should have 196 kick return yards. I spot checked a number of other players and everyone else I checked looked ok.3optic said:Noticing return yards aren't putting Devin McCourty in the mix with mobile app projections. Was he left out by mistake?
Hey Greg, thanks for your hard work here! I really appreciate your timely posts and willingness to explain your thought process.Greg Russell said:The return projections are now available on the main webpage with the rest of the projections at http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/return-projections.php
I don't think there is a link straight there from the pull down menu, but if you go to the pages for Offensive Projections there is a link to it in the list of positions.
Wish I had more to share than what you know already. All I know is David agrees they need to get into DD, but I don't know any kind of timeframe for it.Hey Greg, thanks for your hard work here! I really appreciate your timely posts and willingness to explain your thought process.Greg Russell said:The return projections are now available on the main webpage with the rest of the projections at http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/return-projections.php
I don't think there is a link straight there from the pull down menu, but if you go to the pages for Offensive Projections there is a link to it in the list of positions.
Sorry for the tangent here but, do you have any idea if/when these return projections will make it into PD/DD? Dodds stated they would be included this year, but we have yet to actually see it. I know the apps aren't your priority, but we haven't gotten any response in the App Forum from either Dodds, Bryant or Henderson for over a month and a half. Thanks again!
Rody
Reynaud was pretty good last year. Mariani was just as good the two years before. Both have 3 career return TDs. It's almost unprecedented for a team to have two guys who did so well handling all returns both competing for the same job. It's also an extremely important ones for return leaguers, since the Titans are one of the teams that just looooove giving all the returns to a single guy. There's a good chance that whoever wins the return job gets 1500+ yards, while the guy who loses gets cut outright.Just from the blips from roto i guessMariani opens the preseason atop the depth chart for both punt returner and kick returner. Why would his roster spot be more in jeopardy than Reynaud's? Is it because he's just a return specialist, while Reynaud offers some sort of offensive ability?interestingly Tenn has both Darius Reynaud & Marc Mariani on their roster, if one is released (most likely Mariani) they would surely be scooped up by a return needed team
The Nashville Tennessean believes it will be a "challenge" for Marc Mariani to unseat Darius Reynaud as the Titans' return specialist.
Mariani suffered a compound leg fracture last preseason, and it left some wondering if the 2010 Pro Bowler's career was over. He's now nearing 100 percent, while coming off an "amazing" spring. Reynaud returned two punts and one kickoff to the house last season, and he was re-signed to a one-year deal.
I don't have a release date, but I thought you guys would like to know it's actively being worked. There's been a lot of coding progress since my last update.Wish I had more to share than what you know already. All I know is David agrees they need to get into DD, but I don't know any kind of timeframe for it.Hey Greg, thanks for your hard work here! I really appreciate your timely posts and willingness to explain your thought process.The return projections are now available on the main webpage with the rest of the projections at http://subscribers.footballguys.com/apps/return-projections.php
I don't think there is a link straight there from the pull down menu, but if you go to the pages for Offensive Projections there is a link to it in the list of positions.
Sorry for the tangent here but, do you have any idea if/when these return projections will make it into PD/DD? Dodds stated they would be included this year, but we have yet to actually see it. I know the apps aren't your priority, but we haven't gotten any response in the App Forum from either Dodds, Bryant or Henderson for over a month and a half. Thanks again!
Rody
MM got hurt and is out for a couple of weeks according to MFLReynaud was pretty good last year. Mariani was just as good the two years before. Both have 3 career return TDs. It's almost unprecedented for a team to have two guys who did so well handling all returns both competing for the same job. It's also an extremely important ones for return leaguers, since the Titans are one of the teams that just looooove giving all the returns to a single guy. There's a good chance that whoever wins the return job gets 1500+ yards, while the guy who loses gets cut outright.Just from the blips from roto i guessMariani opens the preseason atop the depth chart for both punt returner and kick returner. Why would his roster spot be more in jeopardy than Reynaud's? Is it because he's just a return specialist, while Reynaud offers some sort of offensive ability?interestingly Tenn has both Darius Reynaud & Marc Mariani on their roster, if one is released (most likely Mariani) they would surely be scooped up by a return needed team
The Nashville Tennessean believes it will be a "challenge" for Marc Mariani to unseat Darius Reynaud as the Titans' return specialist.
Mariani suffered a compound leg fracture last preseason, and it left some wondering if the 2010 Pro Bowler's career was over. He's now nearing 100 percent, while coming off an "amazing" spring. Reynaud returned two punts and one kickoff to the house last season, and he was re-signed to a one-year deal.
Right now, we've got Mariani with 67% of the returns and Reynaud with 33% based on the initial depth chart, which has Mariani running with the first team. This is one of the most important situations for return leaguers, though, so the value of every little bit of information is obviously magnified.
The guy is an actual, honest-to-goodness Olympian. He made the finals in the long jump. He pretty consistently runs the 40 in the 4.2-4.3 range. He's fast like only a track star can be. Also worth noting that Buffalo is far and away the best team in the league at blocking for kickoffs. Both Leodis McKelvin and Brad Smith split kick return duties last year, and both finished in the top 5 in the league in kickoff return average. Buffalo has removed McKelvin from their kick return depth chart, and it looks like Goodwin is a big reason why. Goodwin bears monitoring, as anyone who earns the #1 kickoff return job in Buffalo is guaranteed to rack up a ton of kickoff return yards.Goodwin has ludicrous speed.
Wilson I think that is a good way of looking at him. If he goes up in offensive attempts he may lose the return job, so it may be a balancing act with him and we might not want to bank on top level offensive production and top return production both.I'd like to ask the experts (Greg, Adam, etc) about the guys already being drafted in the first 12 rounds of redraft leagues that have their value increase because of return yards (the ones that interest me the most).
David Wilson
Seems like his KR duties will be decreased if he gets around the 200-220 carries people expect of him (last year he had 71 carries). Seems like in return yardage leagues, this is a great hedge against him not breaking out as a true workhorse. Either he gets the 200 carries and retains his KR duties...or he (because of his play or an injury to ABrown) becomes a true #1 RB while losing his KR duties. Is this the correct way to look at the situation or am I off-base?
Darren Sproles
Until last year he was a lock for well over 1000 combined return yards. Last year he had less than half as many kick returns. Was this completely due to injury? Greg has him at almost 1000 total return yards...will he be the primary kick return and punt return man for the Saints in 2013? Should we expect around 1000 total return yards now that he's over 30?
Randall Cobb
How much of a decrease do we see in terms of total return yardage now that he'll be the #1 or #2 WR for the Packers?
TY Hilton
400 combined return yards in 2012 as a rookie. With him fairly secure as the #2 WR in INDY, will that decrease this year?
Rueben Randle
Would he see any increase production from a decreased roll for DWilson on kickoffs?
Chris Givens
Is he still returning kickoffs? Does Tavon Austin take most of his return yards or will Austin only be used on punts?
To give a second take...I'd like to ask the experts (Greg, Adam, etc) about the guys already being drafted in the first 12 rounds of redraft leagues that have their value increase because of return yards (the ones that interest me the most).
David Wilson
Seems like his KR duties will be decreased if he gets around the 200-220 carries people expect of him (last year he had 71 carries). Seems like in return yardage leagues, this is a great hedge against him not breaking out as a true workhorse. Either he gets the 200 carries and retains his KR duties...or he (because of his play or an injury to ABrown) becomes a true #1 RB while losing his KR duties. Is this the correct way to look at the situation or am I off-base?
Darren Sproles
Until last year he was a lock for well over 1000 combined return yards. Last year he had less than half as many kick returns. Was this completely due to injury? Greg has him at almost 1000 total return yards...will he be the primary kick return and punt return man for the Saints in 2013? Should we expect around 1000 total return yards now that he's over 30?
Randall Cobb
How much of a decrease do we see in terms of total return yardage now that he'll be the #1 or #2 WR for the Packers?
TY Hilton
400 combined return yards in 2012 as a rookie. With him fairly secure as the #2 WR in INDY, will that decrease this year?
Rueben Randle
Would he see any increase production from a decreased roll for DWilson on kickoffs?
Chris Givens
Is he still returning kickoffs? Does Tavon Austin take most of his return yards or will Austin only be used on punts?
I'm assuming that was supposed to say Punt Returner... Right?Todd Archer of ESPN Dallas tweeted that Miles Austin is getting reps at punter today.
I'm not going to try to read too much out of that yet... just because they give a guy a look doesn't mean he's going to work out and even become a backup let alone someone who fields any in a real game. But, given that he's a player of fantasy significance, figured it was worth sharing so people can keep an eye on it.
Whoops, yes, it was. Good catch.I'm assuming that was supposed to say Punt Returner... Right?Todd Archer of ESPN Dallas tweeted that Miles Austin is getting reps at punter today.
I'm not going to try to read too much out of that yet... just because they give a guy a look doesn't mean he's going to work out and even become a backup let alone someone who fields any in a real game. But, given that he's a player of fantasy significance, figured it was worth sharing so people can keep an eye on it.
From what I've heard, McKelvin will return punts while Goodwin and someone else will return kickoffs. Who that someone else is will probably depend on what WRs make the team. I could see any of Brad Smith, TJ Graham or Da'Rick Rogers being the other guy. But Goodwin will certainly be the one definite at KR. The other spot could also be McKelvin too the more I think about it. With McKelvin's camp injury and unimpressive play before the injury, it's possible he may not be a defensive starter. If that's the case, I'm sure he'll be the guy opposite of Goodwin on KRs.The guy is an actual, honest-to-goodness Olympian. He made the finals in the long jump. He pretty consistently runs the 40 in the 4.2-4.3 range. He's fast like only a track star can be. Also worth noting that Buffalo is far and away the best team in the league at blocking for kickoffs. Both Leodis McKelvin and Brad Smith split kick return duties last year, and both finished in the top 5 in the league in kickoff return average. Buffalo has removed McKelvin from their kick return depth chart, and it looks like Goodwin is a big reason why. Goodwin bears monitoring, as anyone who earns the #1 kickoff return job in Buffalo is guaranteed to rack up a ton of kickoff return yards.Goodwin has ludicrous speed.
So far that's the best we have out of the Steelers so far, that Sanders will likely be the primary. We've got him at 60% of the returns, so we do have others in the mix, and that ratio could definitely change based on results. I think he's less certain of getting than, say, Leon Washington getting his, but more sure to get that than any KR on the Bucs you might choose.Wow. Thanks for the fantastic responses. If you don't mind, I'd like to get a little more clarity regarding...
Emmanuel Sanders
You guys have him at over 600 KR yds. I see that he's #1 on the depth chart for KRs. LSH is there as the #2. We should expect a return to 2010 KR stats for Sanders? Last year he had 1 KR, in 2011 he had 5 KRs...thus the reason I'm asking.
Thanks.
Worth mentioning... games 6-7 were against strong-legged Michael Koenen on kickoffs and then at Denver in the thinner air. I don't know who was sent in to handle the returns as the play by plays don't mention it. But every kickoff to the Saints in those two games was a touchback. So unless someone can check tape of the games, it could have been Sproles was still the returner, just there weren't any returnable kicks.Re: Sproles
He was removed from KR duties prior to his hand injury last year. Weeks 6-7 he didn't handle any kicks, yet he remained the main punt returner. He was then injured and missed weeks 8-10. Upon his return, they still held him out of kicks but left him on punts.
He did have 3 KRs in the final game of the season. It's tough to understand exactly why they pulled him over that stretch, especially since Cadet did not outperform him.
In 2011, Antonio Brown emerged as a stud returner and took most of Sanders' kickoffs. In 2012, Pittsburgh brought in Chris Rainey with the intention of using him as a returner while they developed him as an offensive weapon. Now, Brown is Pittsburgh's #1 receiver (and off of kickoffs), and Rainey was cut this offseason for character reasons, which leaves Sanders back on top of the heap. Things could change- the fact that Sanders got beat out for kickoff returns the last two years shows that he's beatable- but Sanders is a solid returner who happened to lose his job to a pair of electric specialists, but who can easily be a solid returner again in 2013.Wow. Thanks for the fantastic responses. If you don't mind, I'd like to get a little more clarity regarding...
Emmanuel Sanders
You guys have him at over 600 KR yds. I see that he's #1 on the depth chart for KRs. LSH is there as the #2. We should expect a return to 2010 KR stats for Sanders? Last year he had 1 KR, in 2011 he had 5 KRs...thus the reason I'm asking.
Thanks.
Do you think Ross will even make the team now?agree on Hyde in GB...I said earlier in here that Ross was looking like the returner.
Since then Ross has done nothing...he is not good enough as a WR. Hyde is doing well as a returner and on D. Making Ross expendable.
Q: Has the progression of Bobby Felder helped with the special teams as well?
A: Yes. This will be a big week for Bobby. He’s going to get some extended snaps in the nickel situations as well as special teams. He did some good things in the Buffalo game; those returns were very good, he was good in covering kicks as well, so we need to get some views of him this week and next week and try to see where he is.
http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Frazier-Priefer-On-Position-Battles-Injuries-and-More/c1f908af-9f28-41f7-a16f-3be30d03f8f1
Fisher made it clear that Austin was still going to return punts. http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2013/8/19/4638784/st-louis-rams-tavon-austin-kickoff-returns-roster
Side note: Johnson Bademosi and Buster Skrine has to be the greatest-named duo of kick returners in NFL history.Actually, sounds like Ross was back taking the first set of reps in actual full on return plays today for both PR and KR. Working on another projections update. Some other notes...
Ravens traded David Reed to the Colts for Delone Carter. Reed should slide in as the primary kick returner and take the bulk of the returns for Indy. Deonte Thompson would be the beneficiary in Baltimore, moving up the food chain but still behind Jacoby Jones.
Vikings staff say the punt return job is down to Sherels and corner Bobby Felder. Felder was a practice squad guy vying to make the roster now.
Bademosi has the lead for Cleveland's KR with Dion Lewis out with the broken leg. Benjamin and Skrine his backups.
Thanks for the heads up, Bia. I've never used Ourlads before (I've always just used FBGs, to be honest), I was mostly just curious whether they were getting their information from anywhere in particular, or whether they were just making it up out of thin air. Looks like "thin air" wins out.Greg,
In regards to the Vikings Sherels is definitely on the bubble to make the team and I think Felder outplayed him as a DB in coverage, which is a sore spot with the Vikings they are really trying to improve. I actually think Patterson may take this job over, especially if Sherels is cut.
I have seen Michael Cox being used as a kick returner for the Giants, so he may be in the mix there.
Similarly Isiah Pead might get some work on kick returns for the Rams. Maybe. I did read about him returning punt for TD in practice.
Adam,
Unfortunately ourlads does not seem very reliable resource for depth charts. I was looking at their site myself a few weeks ago and there is just too much inconsistent information there when compared against official team depth chart listings. I wish this was only this year, but that is what I have noticed every time over the years when I have looked at their information.
eta- Benny Cunningham in the mix on kick returns for the Rams as well. I would think Austin should be their main guy still. But I guess we won't know for a little while yet.
Q: Has the progression of Bobby Felder helped with the special teams as well?
A: Yes. This will be a big week for Bobby. He’s going to get some extended snaps in the nickel situations as well as special teams. He did some good things in the Buffalo game; those returns were very good, he was good in covering kicks as well, so we need to get some views of him this week and next week and try to see where he is.
http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Frazier-Priefer-On-Position-Battles-Injuries-and-More/c1f908af-9f28-41f7-a16f-3be30d03f8f1Fisher made it clear that Austin was still going to return punts. http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2013/8/19/4638784/st-louis-rams-tavon-austin-kickoff-returns-roster
Good info, Bia.Greg,
In regards to the Vikings Sherels is definitely on the bubble to make the team and I think Felder outplayed him as a DB in coverage, which is a sore spot with the Vikings they are really trying to improve. I actually think Patterson may take this job over, especially if Sherels is cut.
I have seen Michael Cox being used as a kick returner for the Giants, so he may be in the mix there.
Similarly Isiah Pead might get some work on kick returns for the Rams. Maybe. I did read about him returning punt for TD in practice.
Adam,
Unfortunately ourlads does not seem very reliable resource for depth charts. I was looking at their site myself a few weeks ago and there is just too much inconsistent information there when compared against official team depth chart listings. I wish this was only this year, but that is what I have noticed every time over the years when I have looked at their information.
eta- Benny Cunningham in the mix on kick returns for the Rams as well. I would think Austin should be their main guy still. But I guess we won't know for a little while yet.
Q: Has the progression of Bobby Felder helped with the special teams as well?
A: Yes. This will be a big week for Bobby. He’s going to get some extended snaps in the nickel situations as well as special teams. He did some good things in the Buffalo game; those returns were very good, he was good in covering kicks as well, so we need to get some views of him this week and next week and try to see where he is.
http://www.vikings.com/news/article-1/Frazier-Priefer-On-Position-Battles-Injuries-and-More/c1f908af-9f28-41f7-a16f-3be30d03f8f1Fisher made it clear that Austin was still going to return punts. http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2013/8/19/4638784/st-louis-rams-tavon-austin-kickoff-returns-roster
The Vikings didn't use Harvin as much on punt returns either. I think they prefer to have the offensive players fresh when the offense starts it's drive as likely the main reason. But they are still having him practice as a punt returner as well.Q: Besides Sherels and Felder, is anyone else getting a shot at punt returner?
A: I think Cordarrelle, we continue to work with him. Again, as I said in the beginning of camp, we don’t want to overload him. Right now, I think that would be a lot being the punt returner, kick returner, and he’s going to get a lot of time on offense obviously. So I think that he is back there, Josh Robinsonis back there, continually working with him, but those two (Sherels and Felder) are the top two right now. I think Stephen Burton has improved as well. He took a couple reps in the Houston game.