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One of the issues with the 50s is avoiding the huge Mantle and Williams seasons so the early drafters don't have a huge advantage. This might be better with a 12 or 16 team WIS league since this era was pre-expansion. We could also just blacklist the outliers although we haven't done this in the past.64-67 is another possibility. Lots of pitching to go around so runs would be scarce. But I vaguely remember doing a league like this in the past.RnR said:something in the 50's?
Pretty sure we did a 62-67 league with the idea of missing the '61 and '68 seasons.That's my main problem with a short-era league, we've covered most of the eras. The All-Rookie league is an "all-time" theme that would bring almost exclusively seasons that we have yet to use. Unfortunately, it seems I'm the only one that feels that way.ETA: The other thing I like about the rookie league is that not a single one of us has done a lick of research on that type of league. Should be a fun exercise, and probably one that levels the playing field for the newbies a bit.One of the issues with the 50s is avoiding the huge Mantle and Williams seasons so the early drafters don't have a huge advantage. This might be better with a 12 or 16 team WIS league since this era was pre-expansion. We could also just blacklist the outliers although we haven't done this in the past.64-67 is another possibility. Lots of pitching to go around so runs would be scarce. But I vaguely remember doing a league like this in the past.RnR said:something in the 50's?
42-45 isn't modern enough? A short-era deadball league might be funWhat about a modern era league or a strictly deadball league?
Have we done a Pre-Ruth era league? I'm talking about post 1900-1919ish.42-45 isn't modern enough? :(A short-era deadball league might be funWhat about a modern era league or a strictly deadball league?
Sim VII was an 1893-1919 league. There were many singles and many errors.Brady Marino said:Have we done a Pre-Ruth era league? I'm talking about post 1900-1919ish.Eephus said:42-45 isn't modern enough? A short-era deadball league might be funBrady Marino said:What about a modern era league or a strictly deadball league?
Ok, pass.Have we done 1920's before? 1930's?Sim VII was an 1893-1919 league. There were many singles and many errors.Brady Marino said:Have we done a Pre-Ruth era league? I'm talking about post 1900-1919ish.Eephus said:42-45 isn't modern enough? A short-era deadball league might be funBrady Marino said:What about a modern era league or a strictly deadball league?
I'm not saying the deadball era sim was bad. I learned a lot about obscure old ballplayers and a better understanding of what the game was like back then. A lot of people hear "deadball" and think there would be a lot of 2-0 games but that's far from the truth. The real ace pitchers were very tough.Ok, pass.Have we done 1920's before? 1930's?Sim VII was an 1893-1919 league. There were many singles and many errors.Brady Marino said:Have we done a Pre-Ruth era league? I'm talking about post 1900-1919ish.Eephus said:42-45 isn't modern enough? A short-era deadball league might be funBrady Marino said:What about a modern era league or a strictly deadball league?
The more I think about it, WWII sounds interesting.WWII or the 30s interests me. I don't think we've done much with that general timeframe.
Axis vs. AlliesThe Browns won the pennant.There's one obvious outlier season on offense (not naming names but he has a frozen head). We could either blacklist him or just give whoever gets 1.01 a big advantage.There are only 64 team seasons to draft from. This isn't enough for a 24 team league but definitely enough for 12. My guess is there was quite a bit of turnover from year to year as players went off to war but I haven't researched this. The yearly leader boards on B-R have some second tier WIS cookies but are mostly unfamiliar names.Tell me more about the WWII era. I'm interested.
I like it. Let's black list him and get started on logistics. We'll be posting WWII propaganda like THIS in no time!Axis vs. AlliesThe Browns won the pennant.Tell me more about the WWII era. I'm interested.
There's one obvious outlier season on offense (not naming names but he has a frozen head). We could either blacklist him or just give whoever gets 1.01 a big advantage.
There are only 64 team seasons to draft from. This isn't enough for a 24 team league but definitely enough for 12. My guess is there was quite a bit of turnover from year to year as players went off to war but I haven't researched this. The yearly leader boards on B-R have some second tier WIS cookies but are mostly unfamiliar names.
We did a long era draft (1920-45?) that included these years but since it was a pretty ####ty time in baseball history, not a lot of WWII era players played major roles.Doctor Detroit said:Didn't we do a WWII era already? I know we did one that included that era maybe a 1939-1960 one or something? Pretty ####ty time in baseball history but I'm in for it.
Serious question because Americans don't study Canadian history, was there any national debate about entering the war or did they automatically get sucked in because they were a member of the Commonwealth?Does the WWII era start when Canada joined the war, or 2 years later when the Americans did
Britain declared war and "appealed" to Canada, and the other commonwealth countries to join them. At the time, it would have bad diplomatically not to join with the Brits. A week after Britain declared war, it came out that there were Canadians on one of the oceanliners that was torpedoed by German U-boats. Canada declared war against Germany independently from Britain the next day (one week after Britain had declared war). I'm surprised Germany didn't just surrender then, the Canadian army is lengendary for its ferocitySerious question because Americans don't study Canadian history, was there any national debate about entering the war or did they automatically get sucked in because they were a member of the Commonwealth?Does the WWII era start when Canada joined the war, or 2 years later when the Americans did
Juno BeachBritain declared war and "appealed" to Canada, and the other commonwealth countries to join them. At the time, it would have bad diplomatically not to join with the Brits. A week after Britain declared war, it came out that there were Canadians on one of the oceanliners that was torpedoed by German U-boats. Canada declared war against Germany independently from Britain the next day (one week after Britain had declared war). I'm surprised Germany didn't just surrender then, the Canadian army is lengendary for its ferocitySerious question because Americans don't study Canadian history, was there any national debate about entering the war or did they automatically get sucked in because they were a member of the Commonwealth?Does the WWII era start when Canada joined the war, or 2 years later when the Americans did
The born on date would be hard to scout in the WIS Draft CenterPlayers drafted must have been born in or played in the 1950's.
yes please don't make searching a ##### for us lazy guys.The born on date would be hard to scout in the WIS Draft CenterPlayers drafted must have been born in or played in the 1950's.
These are good arguments, and I now back you up on this idea.That's my main problem with a short-era league, we've covered most of the eras. The All-Rookie league is an "all-time" theme that would bring almost exclusively seasons that we have yet to use. Unfortunately, it seems I'm the only one that feels that way.ETA: The other thing I like about the rookie league is that not a single one of us has done a lick of research on that type of league. Should be a fun exercise, and probably one that levels the playing field for the newbies a bit.
How does the WIS draft center define rookie?These are good arguments, and I now back you up on this idea.That's my main problem with a short-era league, we've covered most of the eras. The All-Rookie league is an "all-time" theme that would bring almost exclusively seasons that we have yet to use. Unfortunately, it seems I'm the only one that feels that way.ETA: The other thing I like about the rookie league is that not a single one of us has done a lick of research on that type of league. Should be a fun exercise, and probably one that levels the playing field for the newbies a bit.
A couple of thoughts.a) in Excel, if I have the raw data set from WIS, I can easily generate a list of every player's earliest season available in the Draft Center.b) However, we may want to impose our own rookie minimums to change what counts as the first season (WIS already has its own minimums). For instance, we could come up with our own arbitrary floor for PA and IP. That list would still be no problem to generate a list in Excel, because I could first just throw out all non-qualifying seasons and then apply the earliest-season scheme.Eephus said:How does the WIS draft center define rookie?
I'd rather stick with the Draft CenterA couple of thoughts.a) in Excel, if I have the raw data set from WIS, I can easily generate a list of every player's earliest season available in the Draft Center.b) However, we may want to impose our own rookie minimums to change what counts as the first season (WIS already has its own minimums). For instance, we could come up with our own arbitrary floor for PA and IP. That list would still be no problem to generate a list in Excel, because I could first just throw out all non-qualifying seasons and then apply the earliest-season scheme.Eephus said:How does the WIS draft center define rookie?
... if we are restricted to the Draft Center, then the all-rookie draft is a non-starter. Unless there is a way to sort by first year or something.I'd rather stick with the Draft Center
Yes, you can sort by "first", "last", or "first/last" seasons in the draft center.... if we are restricted to the Draft Center, then the all-rookie draft is a non-starter. Unless there is a way to sort by first year or something.I'd rather stick with the Draft Center
At first glance, there aren't many offensive outliers and surprisingly good SP depth. I could support this, if for no other reason that we'd use Babe Ruth as a pitcher for the first time in FBG/BBT WIS history.Yes, you can sort by "first", "last", or "first/last" seasons in the draft center.... if we are restricted to the Draft Center, then the all-rookie draft is a non-starter. Unless there is a way to sort by first year or something.I'd rather stick with the Draft Center
I can get behind this, actually.At first glance, there aren't many offensive outliers and surprisingly good SP depth. I could support this, if for no other reason that we'd use Babe Ruth as a pitcher for the first time in FBG/BBT WIS history.Yes, you can sort by "first", "last", or "first/last" seasons in the draft center.... if we are restricted to the Draft Center, then the all-rookie draft is a non-starter. Unless there is a way to sort by first year or something.I'd rather stick with the Draft Center