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Just Found Out My Daughter's Friend Has Read 50 Shades (1 Viewer)

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She's 13 and her mother gave her the book. Reactions?

I am flabbergasted and really want to limit my daughter's exposure to the family.

 
Old enough to bleed.....


I kid I kid.. 13 might be a BIT young to be exposed to the BDSM lifestyle. But then again, I've never read the book so...

 
That's pretty weird. I've only read snippets of the book, but I know enough that I wouldn't let any of my kids read it (oldest is almost 15).

 
I haven't read it so I'm not sure how extreme it really is. But my 11 year old has definitely read books where characters have sex. :shrug:

Would you feel the same way if the thirteen year old saw a violent movie or played a violent video game? That stuff seems worse to me than reading a book with sex in it.

 
3 reasons why the mom is a stupid, stupid b itch:

1. The "adult" content of the book is not appropriate for a 13 year old.

2. The "relationship/romantic" part of the book is moronic. Sends the wrong message to girls.

3. The writing is beyond terrible.

 
Buck Bradcanon said:
Kid reading it on the downlow would suck but I could see them being curious. Mom sharing with kid? Jesus.
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Right. I remember reading Stephen King books in like 4th or 5th grade. They had some pretty bad stuff in it which 1) I didn't really understand what the hell I was reading at the time; and 2) my Mom didn't know what was in the books or I doubt she would have let me read it. What was pretty funny was the teacher's dilemma whether to punish me because I got caught showing some of the bad parts to my friends during a recess and the teacher clearly had an internal struggle over whether to punish me for actually reading when the substance of what I was reading was inappropriate for my age and for catholic school.

But here where the mom encourages the kid to read this type of book -- that's ####### weird.

 
Sad, I don't know if you guys are aware of the genesis of this book. I know someone who does entertainment journalism, though maybe this is common knowledge, not sure. Basically it was originally a soft-porn B&D / S&M story series written on a porn site which basically used the characters from the Twilight vampire movies. So it was just one big crapily written online porn dump, but then apparently it was so successful that the author(s) were contacted by a publisher, whereupon basically the character names were changed, the plot changed and the story "fleshed" out.

So basically what children in the OP are seeing and reading is online porn writ large.

What are the effects of porn on children? Well, there's your answer.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Sad, I don't know if you guys are aware of the genesis of this book. I know someone who does entertainment journalism, though maybe this is common knowledge, not sure. Basically it was originally a soft-porn B&D / S&M story series written on a porn site which basically used the characters from the Twilight vampire movies. So it was just one big crapily written online porn dump, but then apparently it was so successful that the author(s) were contacted by a publisher, whereupon basically the character names were changed, the plot changed and the story "fleshed" out.

So basically what children in the OP are seeing and reading is online porn writ large.

What are the effects of porn on children? Well, there's your answer.
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there is the answer? I definitely had seen many playboys by that point in my life.

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
I haven't read it so I'm not sure how extreme it really is. But my 11 year old has definitely read books where characters have sex. :shrug:

Would you feel the same way if the thirteen year old saw a violent movie or played a violent video game? That stuff seems worse to me than reading a book with sex in it.
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Big fan of yours so I appreciate the take. 11-13 is hopefully the first time kids are exposed to anything sexual as you mentioned. Having sex mentioned in a book is not the same as a book based mostly on sex, let alone BDSM/controlling type scenarios.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
Sad, I don't know if you guys are aware of the genesis of this book. I know someone who does entertainment journalism, though maybe this is common knowledge, not sure. Basically it was originally a soft-porn B&D / S&M story series written on a porn site which basically used the characters from the Twilight vampire movies. So it was just one big crapily written online porn dump, but then apparently it was so successful that the author(s) were contacted by a publisher, whereupon basically the character names were changed, the plot changed and the story "fleshed" out.

So basically what children in the OP are seeing and reading is online porn writ large.

What are the effects of porn on children? Well, there's your answer.
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wat

 
so maybe this is new thread worthy but what age would it be appropriate for a father to share his playboys with his son?

 
Can we fast forward past the part whet someone mentions huck finn is a banned book and someone else references Hitler and get right to the pictures of your daughters friend's mom?

 
Did her mom say this or the girl did? If the girl, maybe she lied so you don't think she's a sneaky thief taking her mom's book without permission.

If the mom did indeed let her read it...yikes.

 
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Zow said:
fatguyinalittlecoat said:
Chet just said the mother gave the kid the book, not that she encouraged the kid to read it.
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You don't think that's implied encouragement?
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It depends. I can imagine a situation where the mother bought the book for herself, the kid asked to read it, and the mom said OK. I wouldn't really characterize that as encouragement.
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:lmao:

"Officer, I just bought those kids out in front of 7-11 the case of beer. I did NOT encourage them to drink it."

 
I find it as weird and inappropriate as anyone else, but I also doubt that it was particularly harmful.

My babysitter as a kid left us alone with HBO. The other kids routinely watched slasher movies like Friday the 13th. I think that's far more harmful to kids than 50 Shades of Grey unless you're worried about the quality of the kid's prose.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
I find it as weird and inappropriate as anyone else, but I also doubt that it was particularly harmful.

My babysitter as a kid left us alone with HBO. The other kids routinely watched slasher movies like Friday the 13th. I think that's far more harmful to kids than 50 Shades of Grey unless you're worried about the quality of the kid's prose.
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So if we can think of something more harmful, it is OK to do something not as bad?

 
Black Box said:
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
I find it as weird and inappropriate as anyone else, but I also doubt that it was particularly harmful.

My babysitter as a kid left us alone with HBO. The other kids routinely watched slasher movies like Friday the 13th. I think that's far more harmful to kids than 50 Shades of Grey unless you're worried about the quality of the kid's prose.
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So if we can think of something more harmful, it is OK to do something not as bad?
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I'd classify that as a radical interpretation of what I wrote.

 
And if it's radical, we should ban it. Like huck finn. And Hitler. Can we get those pics of your daughter's friend's mom now?

 
So you dont think this could lead to a healthy and honest discussion on sex/relationships between a mother and her daughter?

or is it the age that's the issue?

What age would you feel more comfortable with a mom having an open discussion with her daughter?

now i dont know if this is whats happening in this case (OP didnt say more then the kid read it) and I havent read the books or seen the movie (dont plan too). Heard all about it though (My wife has seen the movie and read it). Its all the rage in the 24 hour media, social network, news cycle.... Why not use it as a tool for discussion?

 
Maybe mom is trying eliminate the forbidden fruit thing early? I wouldnt do it, but hardly the end of the world for a high school student to catch wind of something like this. Hell, faces of death was making the rounds when i was a freshman.

 
Are people upset with this girl being given the book, OK with her school passing out condoms to same 13-year old girl?

 
pats3in4 said:
Did her mom say this or the girl did? If the girl, maybe she lied so you don't think she's a sneaky thief taking her mom's book without permission.

If the mom did indeed let her read it...yikes.
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They are staying with us in park city along with another family. The three mothers discussed it last night while I was in bed with a 103 degree fever.

I didn't want then to come but they invited themselves and wife didn't say no. :hot:

 
B Maverick said:
So you dont think this could lead to a healthy and honest discussion on sex/relationships between a mother and her daughter?

or is it the age that's the issue?

What age would you feel more comfortable with a mom having an open discussion with her daughter?

now i dont know if this is whats happening in this case (OP didnt say more then the kid read it) and I havent read the books or seen the movie (dont plan too). Heard all about it though (My wife has seen the movie and read it). Its all the rage in the 24 hour media, social network, news cycle.... Why not use it as a tool for discussion?
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True, but there are literally thousands of other books that she could have given the kid that would prove to be more valuable.

 
B Maverick said:
So you dont think this could lead to a healthy and honest discussion on sex/relationships between a mother and her daughter?

or is it the age that's the issue?

What age would you feel more comfortable with a mom having an open discussion with her daughter?

now i dont know if this is whats happening in this case (OP didnt say more then the kid read it) and I havent read the books or seen the movie (dont plan too). Heard all about it though (My wife has seen the movie and read it). Its all the rage in the 24 hour media, social network, news cycle.... Why not use it as a tool for discussion?
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I can't know, but it doesn't seem like the best book for that type of discussion. It's not Judy Blume.

Now, maybe the daughter had heard of it and was asking questions and the mother figured it was best to discuss it honestly with an emphasis on the meaning and importance of consent. Or maybe the mother was trying to be best friends with her daughter and wanted to discuss it over wine. I have no idea. One scenario is obviously worse than the other.

In any case, I just question whether its something I would make a bigger deal out of than it was.

 
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