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if you dont like the fact that stars dont show for stuff like this, then dont ask for stars on your team.

it is what it is. 

until stuff like this is mandatory, superstars arent risking their bodies for nothing

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Less than $13.million assumed figure.  One year deal means zero dead cap.

We can do that.  We can do better than that and still come in less than $13 million.

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Brent Sobleski‏ @brentsobleski 2h2 hours ago

Market is now set for McCoy.

Brent Sobleski added, Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter

Buccaneers officially have reached agreement with former Rams’ DT Ndamukong Suh on a one-year, $9.25 million deal that with incentives is worth up to $10 million, per source.

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Brent Sobleski‏ @brentsobleski 2h2 hours ago

Just imagine the following sub-package Bear front:

Garrett .........................Schobert

Richardson

Ogunjobi

McCoy ..........................Kirksey

Vernon

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Pete Smith‏ @_PeteSmith_

Gerald McCoy to start his free agent tour, visit #Browns Friday

12:54 PM - 23 May 2019

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The good news is OBJ can't pull a R Foster and suffer a season ending injury if he isn't there.

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NEWS ARTICLES > DENZEL WARD: MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO TACKLING TECHNIQUE

PUBLISHED WED MAY 22 4:10:37 P.M. ET 2019 

(RotoWire) Ward is adjusting his tackling technique in the wake of a season in which he sustained two separate concussions, Scott Petrak of the Elyria Chronicle-Telegram reports.

Analysis: Ward missed three of the final four games of his rookie season with a pair of concussions, but he was able to participate in January's Pro Bowl and then suggested Wednesday that he hasn't suffered any setbacks since. The 2018 first-round pick is locked and loaded as the Browns' No. 1 corner ahead of the 2019 season and improved health could help him top his rookie year stat line of 53 tackles, 11 pass breakups, three picks and one forced fumble.

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21 hours ago, MAC_32 said:

It isn't bull ####, this is the price of admission. Don't remember how you felt about him 2 months ago, but if you were good with it then you kinda can't not be good with this. Yeah, double negatives!

i wasn’t banging the drum to bring in a prima donna. 

hope he does well, but this isn’t conditioning, it’s installing the offense.  seems like it might be important to a guy going to a new team?

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12 hours ago, Soulfly3 said:

if you dont like the fact that stars dont show for stuff like this, then dont ask for stars on your team.

it is what it is. 

until stuff like this is mandatory, superstars arent risking their bodies for nothing

didn’t ask for him.  

is Mayfield not a star?

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50 minutes ago, amnesiac said:

didn’t ask for him.  

is Mayfield not a star?

I am glad your not the GM I like to win championships.  OBJ helps that chance.  I can't believe people are crying about OBJ not being there for voluntary workouts.  Would it be nice if he was ?  Sure.  It isn't mandatory so not sure why all the complaining.

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by that logic, no one should show up til it’s mandatory. 

 

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1 minute ago, amnesiac said:

by that logic, no one should show up til it’s mandatory. 

 

if leaguewide, accepted unspoken rules about vets/stars and voluntaries didnt exist, then ya. 

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5 minutes ago, amnesiac said:

by that logic, no one should show up til it’s mandatory. 

 

This is correct.  They shouldnt.

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7 minutes ago, Soulfly3 said:

if leaguewide, accepted unspoken rules about vets/stars and voluntaries didnt exist, then ya. 

why’s Mayfield there?

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8 minutes ago, Soulfly3 said:

because he's the new nfl darling 

what does that mean?

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it’s like talking to a Magic Eight Ball. 

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how do i possibly have to explain that baker is the new in grooming nfl posterboy 

he's at voluntaries because he has to

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Baker is at the install because he wants to win.

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42 minutes ago, amnesiac said:

why’s Mayfield there?

Because whether it's right or wrong the rules are different for qb's. 

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2 hours ago, Dez said:

I am glad your not the GM I like to win championships.  OBJ helps that chance.  I can't believe people are crying about OBJ not being there for voluntary workouts.  Would it be nice if he was ?  Sure.  It isn't mandatory so not sure why all the complaining.

Here's the deal...  As fans, we want to jump up & down and shout from the rooftops that OBJ is a Brown.  We want to celebrate, to brag.  We got a QB that is a winner and doesn't leave you wondering about his attitude -- he's ALL IN!  We want OBJ to be that so we can jump on his bandwagon without any worries.  Too bad he's not that kind of guy.  We would love him!

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8 minutes ago, daveR said:

Here's the deal...  As fans, we want to jump up & down and shout from the rooftops that OBJ is a Brown.  We want to celebrate, to brag.  We got a QB that is a winner and doesn't leave you wondering about his attitude -- he's ALL IN!  We want OBJ to be that so we can jump on his bandwagon without any worries.  Too bad he's not that kind of guy.  We would love him!

If we let him be him then we will probably love him. If we force him to be what we want him to be then we may not. 

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Ex-Bucs DT Gerald McCoy visiting Browns on Friday [TODAY]

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McCoy has told teams interested in his services that he will first visit the Cleveland Browns,..

...If Dorsey believes McCoy is a good fit, the Browns have money to spend if they really want him. As of Thursday, the Browns sit on $33.3 million in available salary cap space.

In the event of a signing, the Browns interior defensive line would boast McCoy, Sheldon Richardson and Larry Ogunjobi, giving the unit flexibility for a rotation.

 

We might be signing one of the best DTs in the league to make what was the weakest position on the team a strength.

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4 hours ago, The Man With No Name said:

Brady isn't there for New England

I see we have reached the ridiculous stage of the offseason. Because Mayfield is on the same level as Brady.

I swear some of you just actively look for stupid stuff to complain about.

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i’m gonna assume they’re not installing a new offense in New England this year.  

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Not looking good for McCoy when he leaves with no contract.

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Found last year's big board in Feb of 2018.  Williams was the 8th projected pick.

 

8. Andraez (Greedy) Williams, CB, LSU: Another projection based on talent and a small window of production, Williams had a breakout redshirt freshman year. He finished fourth nationally with six interceptions, and PFF College rated him 26th nationally among cornerbacks with an 85.9 grade. At 6-foot-2, 182 pounds Williams has the length that NFL scouts salivate over. He’s also got great hips in terms of his ability to work out of breaks and good speed. If he continues to gain weight and improves as a run defender (he ranked 31th among corners in that category per PFF), Williams should be the top corner off the board in the 2019 draft class.

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On 5/23/2019 at 11:18 PM, MAC_32 said:

If we let him be him then we will probably love him. If we force him to be what we want him to be then we may not. 

It’s as simple as this. ☝️

Fans blow things out of proportion, much like the media does trying to make a story. Media is guilty as charged with OBJ too. 

Where are all those Browns fans (not necessarily in here) that gave up the Browns forever during Anthem-gate? Let me guess, as fired up as I am for the upcoming season. 

Edited by Bobcat10

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22 hours ago, Arodin said:

If it’s that easy to get into a tryout snd shake hands with NFL decisionmakers, maybe I should go to a couple tryouts...

if you have 4.38 speed, i agree.  

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Just now, amnesiac said:

if you have 4.38 speed, i agree.  

Looks to me like he got in by claiming to know the GM, then went and shook hands with said GM before they timed his speed. 

I’d just leave after getting in and doing the meet’n’greet.  Wouldn’t bother to show off my blazing sub-14 speed.

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5 hours ago, Arodin said:

Looks to me like he got in by claiming to know the GM, then went and shook hands with said GM before they timed his speed. 

I’d just leave after getting in and doing the meet’n’greet.  Wouldn’t bother to show off my blazing sub-14 speed.

solid plan. keep us updated. 

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Two things:

  1. This whole "voluntary" thing has run it's course and seems to be lost on the fanbase. Not just our situation but league-wide. Call it something else in the new CBA
  2. Browns fans #####ing about star players the likes of which we haven't seen since the 80's is so ####### Browns. If OBJ gets hurt early on they will be piling on the "I told you so's". For all the anticipated success we all feel is right around the corner, this thread is ####### depressing.

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7 minutes ago, beer 30 said:

Two things:

  1. This whole "voluntary" thing has run it's course and seems to be lost on the fanbase. Not just our situation but league-wide. Call it something else in the new CBA
  2. Browns fans #####ing about star players the likes of which we haven't seen since the 80's is so ####### Browns. If OBJ gets hurt early on they will be piling on the "I told you so's". For all the anticipated success we all feel is right around the corner, this thread is ####### depressing.

The voluntary thing was a "concession" from the owners.  It was stupid then and it's proven since.  Players only have themselves to blame for that one.  Instead of having less time at practice demand more money in your pocket.  Because ultimately not enough of them having money caused the panic leading to accepting that "concession."  All it's done is lead to less $ in their pockets and a worse product on the field.

There isn't much to talk about this time of year, so manufacture a story that will generate public interest.  That's the game.  It's on others to not bite at it when that's what the media feeds.  The public has shown time and time again that they are incapable of not swatting at that low hanging fruit, so that's what they're gonna keep getting.  In the meantime, don't mind me - Imma go enjoy my summer and can't wait for the Fall.  Knock on my door when there's real news though.

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i didn’t mean to bring anybody down. 

i just get frustrated when people get ahead of themselves on what they’re going to accomplish, especially when there are players who aren’t here putting in the work. 

i love that Mayfield is leading by example, and as long as he’s healthy, he’s going to put this franchise on his back and take it as far as he can.  

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They don't need to be in NE Ohio to be putting in the work.  What matters most is them putting in the work, so they're ready on reporting date.  If he shows up and pulls up lame day 2 of camp THEN you can make an issue out of it.  But anything along these lines between now and then means absolutely nothing.

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Freddie Kitchens:

 

On goals for Odell Beckham Jr. next week:

“I just want to see him.”

On what Beckham missed during OTAs:

“A lot. The offense.”

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1 hour ago, amnesiac said:

Freddie Kitchens:

 

On goals for Odell Beckham Jr. next week:

“I just want to see him.”

On what Beckham missed during OTAs:

“A lot. The offense.”

Yea, at first I didn't think much of it.  Kitchens had been covering for him. But he is obviously frustrated by the lack of effort here. I get it, he's a vet. But he is a vet going to a new team, will be working with a QB he's never played with, running an offense he's never been part of. A little effort and solidarity with the team would obviously go a long way. Instead he's out worrying about pimping out his new Rolls. I actually do think this may not bode well for the team.

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(Rotoworld) Browns RB Dontrell Hilliard has been taking snaps at receiver in OTAs. Analysis: The 2018 UDFA has also drawn praise from RBs coach Stump Mitchell for his work as a pass catcher out of the backfield in Duke Johnson's absence. Hilliard touched the ball nine times as a rookie, which each handle coming via the air. Hilliard's 53-man roster odds are looking good, while he could eventually slot in as the No. 3 back behind Nick Chubb and Kareem Hunt if Johnson gets his desired trade.

 

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Is today the day we hear about Gerald McCoy becoming a Brown - just in time to be at camp on Tuesday?

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9 hours ago, Peak said:

Is today the day we hear about Gerald McCoy becoming a Brown - just in time to be at camp on Tuesday?

Signing with Carolina

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14 hours ago, Dez said:

Signing with Carolina

Jeremy Fowler‏Verified account @JFowlerESPN

It’s my understanding Browns weren’t touching the $10.25 million Gerald McCoy can get from Carolina. Cleveland basically wanted him to take a fairly sizable pay cut. Panthers viewed him as more than $8 M player, and the man who took his job, Suh, helped case w/ big money from TB

6:38 PM - 3 Jun 2019

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Pete Smith‏ @_PeteSmith_

#Browns: Gerald McCoy says he wants to play for contender, instead signs with mediocre #Panthers for shot at revenge

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Ah well...at least it wasn't Baltimore.  :shrug:

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OBJ and Duke in Berea...as reported by MKC and her unnamed sources.  I'm glad she dug deep for this info and protected her sources.  It's a tough job she has.

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Just now, Bobcat10 said:

OBJ and Duke in Berea...as reported by MKC and her unnamed sources.  I'm glad she dug deep for this info and protected her sources.  It's a tough job she has.

Joe Thomas appropriately put this OBJ non-story in its place yesterday.

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