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***2010 Atlanta Falcons team thread*** (1 Viewer)
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PatrickT
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Dunta Robinson signs 6 year deal
This probably represents 80% of our free agency, and Dimitroff has now made a move that frees him up to address the front 7. Personally, I think Weatherspoon might be near the top of our board at #19. I had thought we might go DE in FA, but looks like that will be addressed in the draft.
This probably represents 80% of our free agency, and Dimitroff has now made a move that frees him up to address the front 7. Personally, I think Weatherspoon might be near the top of our board at #19. I had thought we might go DE in FA, but looks like that will be addressed in the draft.
SteevieG
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I'm not so sure you won't see the Falcons address the OL with the first pick. They are, hopefully, getting Jerry back so that's like another 1st round pick this year.
If the do go D I'd like to see them draft Anderson's replacement at DE.
And no 2nd round pick either --- yet.
If the do go D I'd like to see them draft Anderson's replacement at DE.
And no 2nd round pick either --- yet.
PatrickT
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Tye Hill experiment over
Only cost a 7th rounder, and was certainly worth a shot, but apparently he couldn't cut it. They also sigend S Matt Giordano, formerly of the Colts and Packers. Not sure if he's special teams depth, or a sign that Coleman's days might be numbered.
Only cost a 7th rounder, and was certainly worth a shot, but apparently he couldn't cut it. They also sigend S Matt Giordano, formerly of the Colts and Packers. Not sure if he's special teams depth, or a sign that Coleman's days might be numbered.
PatrickT
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Smitty talks Turner, Ryan, Robinson and the draft
Nothing earth shattering, but further re-iteration that Turner wil continue to see fewer carries than his 2008 effort.
Nothing earth shattering, but further re-iteration that Turner wil continue to see fewer carries than his 2008 effort.
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Of course, he couldn't pass the physical, he's incapable of turning his head. I'll be here all ze veek.Heard about that, but not the details about the physical. Sounds like we REALLY didn't want him, and the Lions were playing hardball, be interesting to see how he pans out there.
Erin Go Bragh
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Anybody have any thoughts about the dynasty value of Harry Douglas? I picked him up as a small part of a trade in a 16 team PPR league.
I look at him as a "hold" because I don't think anyone would give me much for him and I'm intrigued enough to see if he can be the #2 WR in terms of FF production for the Falcons. I realize that, at best, he'll be Atlanta's #4 option this year but situations change and he's only 25.
We have pretty deep rosters and we can start 3-5 WRs so somewhere between 48 and 80 are in lineups every week. I would say 60 is a pretty safe estimate as an average.
I look at him as a "hold" because I don't think anyone would give me much for him and I'm intrigued enough to see if he can be the #2 WR in terms of FF production for the Falcons. I realize that, at best, he'll be Atlanta's #4 option this year but situations change and he's only 25.
We have pretty deep rosters and we can start 3-5 WRs so somewhere between 48 and 80 are in lineups every week. I would say 60 is a pretty safe estimate as an average.
PatrickT
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Harry will go into camp as the number 3 guy, and it would not shock me at all if he beat out Jenkins at #2. Even if not, the Falcons front office is VERY high on Douglas, and has been mentioned specifically by Dimitroff as being used in a Welker type role. I could easily see him outperforming Jenkins.
PatrickT
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I don't know that I've seen enough to know, but that's a great observation. That is certainly something the front office looks for in a WR.
texasbirdfan
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Finneran and Jenkins are some of the best downfield blockers in the pros...I'm still tapping the brakes on Douglas.....
Sabertooth
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New dynasty BURNER owner.
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PatrickT
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Unnoticed stat last year for Turner: 1/2 season, 800+ yards, 10 TDs. His slow start made people forget about him.Excellent pickup.New dynasty BURNER owner.
Sabertooth
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Oh, I noticed that. And I'll be targetting him in our auction as well. He's fantasy gold when healthy and Snelling is a nice backup where the dropoff in production isn't too steep. I'm trying to acquire Snelling from another owner now.Unnoticed stat last year for Turner: 1/2 season, 800+ yards, 10 TDs. His slow start made people forget about him.Excellent pickup.New dynasty BURNER owner.
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that's cool.where do we think Turner is gonna be going in redrafts? Does fbg update their mocks at all pre-NFL draft?
Sabertooth
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I've got him in the first round personally.
If Douglas is on the field as a slot guy that means that Ovie Mughelli is not. Ovie is the best blocking back in the league, so while that gives the offense versatility, in the Falcons run-first scheme Ovie is likely to be see a lot more snaps. Failing a change in offensive philosophy Douglas' short term value is likely to be limited. There have certainly been indications Atlanta could look to put more of the offense in Ryans hands as well as rumblings of dissatisfaction with Jenkins- including the pursuit of a couple of middling free agents
PatrickT
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I don't think you need a full blown change in philosophy to utilize Douglas more right away. I think the staff is aware that they played it too close to the vest last year, and need to open the playbook wider to Ryan, letting him get the ball downfield more, and I anticipate them starting off with that right away. Falcons also run a lot of one back sets anyway, so I don't think that will impact Douglas that greatly.
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Heard the other day Buck Balue saying that Matt Ryan was lobbying for the flacons to go get Matt Tennant, his old center from Boston College. Fits a need, and obviously they already have a great rapport, 
His scouting report
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Week 1: Sunday, Sep. 12, at Pittsburgh, 1:00 PM
We will likely face the Steelers without Big Ben, which is a huge bonus. They still have a tremendous D, led by Polamalu, so not to be taken lightly be any means, but weather won't be an issue and we catch a break here. We'll need to continue our 2 season opening day winning streak (and end Pitt's considerably longer one).
Week 2: Sunday, Sep. 19, Arizona, 1:00 PM
Second week of facing a team with a new QB from last year. Jury is still out at that position, regardless of who starts (I expect it will be Leinart). I'm not sure what to make of this ARI team yet, but we're at home and are tough to beat at the dome.
Week 3: Sunday, Sep. 26, at New Orleans, 1:00 PM
Always a good game, and we match up well with NOLA for some reason. Last year was a hard fought loss at the dome (
), expect another exciting game here as the battle for the NFC South begins.Week 4: Sunday, Oct. 3, San Francisco, 1:00 PM
We destroyed them last year (which was awesome, cause I still hate the 9ers from our old NFC West days), so I expect they'll have payback in mind. Still, we're a good home team and I'm not convinced SF is there yet. This marks game 3 with a team starting a different QB.
Week 5: Sunday, Oct. 10, at Cleveland, 1:00 PM
Which brings us to game 4 with a new QB, TBD. I expect Cleveland to be improved, but I don't think they'll have enough offense. Again, a road game where it's too early for weather to be a factor.
Week 6: Sunday, Oct. 17, at Philadelphia, 1:00 PM
REVENGE!!!! Philly came in and trounced us. We were missing 5 starters, including Ryan and Turner, and never had a chance. Philly made a point to use Vick in this game more than any other in their season, where he passed and ran for TDs. Nothing was said at the time, but the offices at Flowery branch were fuming. There'll be a little extra juice for this game.
Week 7: Sunday, Oct. 24, Cincinnati, 1:00 PM
Cinci was solid in '09, no reason to think that they won't be again. We'll need to have a good day offensively to beat them. Good news is that it is at home.
Week 8: BYE
Week 9: Sunday, Nov. 7, Tampa Bay, 1:00 PM
TB is probably facing another year in their rebuilding project, but you can't ever sleep on them.
Week 10: Thursday, Nov. 11, Baltimore, 8:20 PM
The battle of the '08 QB studs, Ryan vs Flacco 1.0. That will be the billing for this matchup, and why not? You won't find many rookie years better than these two put up.
Week 11: Sunday, Nov. 21, at St. Louis, 4:05 PM
6th game facing a new QB, likely the rookie Bradford. They're all NFL teams, but this should be a win, STL is not ready yet.
Week 12: Sunday, Nov. 28, Green Bay, 1:00 PM
Time for the playoff push! I expect both Atlanta and GB to be strong playoff contenders, and this game could have significant seeding implications.
Week 13: Sunday, Dec. 5, at Tampa Bay, 1:00 PM
Never a dull day at RayJay, gotta take care of business and keep the cannons quiet.
Week 14: Sunday, Dec. 12, at Carolina, 1:00 PM
We have to wait a long time til we face our 3rd NFC South rival, and our 7th new starting QB. (Yes, Moore started some games, but we didn't face him). Despite QB issues, they still have a strong D and running game. Always a good matchup.
Week 15: Sunday, Dec. 19, at Seattle, 4:05 PM
Our sole trip to the west coast, and I expect Seattle to be struggling in their first year under Carroll. It will take him a couple of seasons to get what he wants up there.
Week 16: Monday, Dec. 27, New Orleans, 8:30 PM
Could this be the deciding game in NFC South supremacy?
Week 17: Sunday, Jan. 2, Carolina, 1:00 PM
Love that we're ending the season at home. If Carolina struggles this season, Fox could be halfway out the door and the team might be mailing it in.
All in all, we catch a break from the schedule makers, who cornholed us last year. A nice, mid-season bye, most of our toughest opponents are at home, and our away games to cold weather locations are nearly all early in the season. With Ryan entering his thrid year, Turner healthy, and what should be a considerably improved D, I think we're set up nicely to make the playoffs this year and give the Saints all they can handle in trying to repeat.
We will likely face the Steelers without Big Ben, which is a huge bonus. They still have a tremendous D, led by Polamalu, so not to be taken lightly be any means, but weather won't be an issue and we catch a break here. We'll need to continue our 2 season opening day winning streak (and end Pitt's considerably longer one).
Week 2: Sunday, Sep. 19, Arizona, 1:00 PM
Second week of facing a team with a new QB from last year. Jury is still out at that position, regardless of who starts (I expect it will be Leinart). I'm not sure what to make of this ARI team yet, but we're at home and are tough to beat at the dome.
Week 3: Sunday, Sep. 26, at New Orleans, 1:00 PM
Always a good game, and we match up well with NOLA for some reason. Last year was a hard fought loss at the dome (
), expect another exciting game here as the battle for the NFC South begins.Week 4: Sunday, Oct. 3, San Francisco, 1:00 PM
We destroyed them last year (which was awesome, cause I still hate the 9ers from our old NFC West days), so I expect they'll have payback in mind. Still, we're a good home team and I'm not convinced SF is there yet. This marks game 3 with a team starting a different QB.
Week 5: Sunday, Oct. 10, at Cleveland, 1:00 PM
Which brings us to game 4 with a new QB, TBD. I expect Cleveland to be improved, but I don't think they'll have enough offense. Again, a road game where it's too early for weather to be a factor.
Week 6: Sunday, Oct. 17, at Philadelphia, 1:00 PM
REVENGE!!!! Philly came in and trounced us. We were missing 5 starters, including Ryan and Turner, and never had a chance. Philly made a point to use Vick in this game more than any other in their season, where he passed and ran for TDs. Nothing was said at the time, but the offices at Flowery branch were fuming. There'll be a little extra juice for this game.
Week 7: Sunday, Oct. 24, Cincinnati, 1:00 PM
Cinci was solid in '09, no reason to think that they won't be again. We'll need to have a good day offensively to beat them. Good news is that it is at home.
Week 8: BYE
Week 9: Sunday, Nov. 7, Tampa Bay, 1:00 PM
TB is probably facing another year in their rebuilding project, but you can't ever sleep on them.
Week 10: Thursday, Nov. 11, Baltimore, 8:20 PM
The battle of the '08 QB studs, Ryan vs Flacco 1.0. That will be the billing for this matchup, and why not? You won't find many rookie years better than these two put up.
Week 11: Sunday, Nov. 21, at St. Louis, 4:05 PM
6th game facing a new QB, likely the rookie Bradford. They're all NFL teams, but this should be a win, STL is not ready yet.
Week 12: Sunday, Nov. 28, Green Bay, 1:00 PM
Time for the playoff push! I expect both Atlanta and GB to be strong playoff contenders, and this game could have significant seeding implications.
Week 13: Sunday, Dec. 5, at Tampa Bay, 1:00 PM
Never a dull day at RayJay, gotta take care of business and keep the cannons quiet.
Week 14: Sunday, Dec. 12, at Carolina, 1:00 PM
We have to wait a long time til we face our 3rd NFC South rival, and our 7th new starting QB. (Yes, Moore started some games, but we didn't face him). Despite QB issues, they still have a strong D and running game. Always a good matchup.
Week 15: Sunday, Dec. 19, at Seattle, 4:05 PM
Our sole trip to the west coast, and I expect Seattle to be struggling in their first year under Carroll. It will take him a couple of seasons to get what he wants up there.
Week 16: Monday, Dec. 27, New Orleans, 8:30 PM
Could this be the deciding game in NFC South supremacy?
Week 17: Sunday, Jan. 2, Carolina, 1:00 PM
Love that we're ending the season at home. If Carolina struggles this season, Fox could be halfway out the door and the team might be mailing it in.
All in all, we catch a break from the schedule makers, who cornholed us last year. A nice, mid-season bye, most of our toughest opponents are at home, and our away games to cold weather locations are nearly all early in the season. With Ryan entering his thrid year, Turner healthy, and what should be a considerably improved D, I think we're set up nicely to make the playoffs this year and give the Saints all they can handle in trying to repeat.
Fiddles
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The consensus seems to be either Gresham, DE, or LBI think it will be a DE
bigmarc27
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I think Weatherspoon is the guy too... I also wouldn't be surprised to see them drop back in the first and pick up a 2nd rounder since we don't have one. At this point I trust Dimitrioff completely, so I'll go with the flow.
Quick slant
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What's the word on safety William Moore? Is he in line to start this season...assuming he can stay healthy enough to get on the field?
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nice call...
PatrickT
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Ok, so the Falcons don't have a second rounder currently, so who has fallen out of the first that might motivate them to deal some later picks to get back into the 2nd?
Sergio Kindle, LB - Rated as a 3-4 guy and Weatherspoon fills the LB need.
Charles Brown, OT - Can never have enough solid lineman, tho we're more in need of a center
Rodger Saffold, OT - See above
Terrence Cody, DT - Doesn't seem like Dimitroff kind of a pick, but a potentiially dominant interior lineman is not to be overlooked (see Jackson, Grady)
Carlos Dunlap, DE - Was certainly considered first round talent.
Ricky Sapp, DE - Know nothing about this guy, but he's ranked above Dunlap on nfl.com
Griffen, Everson - This is most likely the guy we make a move for, if we make a move, IMO. depends on how far he falls, perhaps.
We'd have to move up to the first half tho, I could see the Vikes, Bucs and Eagles all being interested in Griffen. Probably won't happen, but TD has shown he'll make a move when he wants a guy.
ETA, I could see them also trading up if they started to get nervous about someone taking Matt Tennant.
Sergio Kindle, LB - Rated as a 3-4 guy and Weatherspoon fills the LB need.
Charles Brown, OT - Can never have enough solid lineman, tho we're more in need of a center
Rodger Saffold, OT - See above
Terrence Cody, DT - Doesn't seem like Dimitroff kind of a pick, but a potentiially dominant interior lineman is not to be overlooked (see Jackson, Grady)
Carlos Dunlap, DE - Was certainly considered first round talent.
Ricky Sapp, DE - Know nothing about this guy, but he's ranked above Dunlap on nfl.com
Griffen, Everson - This is most likely the guy we make a move for, if we make a move, IMO. depends on how far he falls, perhaps.
We'd have to move up to the first half tho, I could see the Vikes, Bucs and Eagles all being interested in Griffen. Probably won't happen, but TD has shown he'll make a move when he wants a guy.
ETA, I could see them also trading up if they started to get nervous about someone taking Matt Tennant.
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IDPers may be interested in this. Finally some good news on last year's second round pick, S William Moore. Moore was considered first round talent who fell to the second round for reasons I can't recall. It is widely believed in Falcon Land that a healthy Moore will start over Erik Coleman from day 1.
As someone who was counting on coleman to be one of my starting db's that news doesn't thrill me. That said I appreciate all of your links, Patrick, because other than weatherspoon I knew nothing about this year's draft class
Also I'm surprised so many ppl thought the falcons would use their first to draft gresham. Not only did they have far more pressing needs than at te, this was a very deep te crop and IMO it didn't make sense for any of them to be drafted in the first
It's hard to imagine that atlanta is looking at another winning season when it took forver to just get two good seasons in a row
Also I'm surprised so many ppl thought the falcons would use their first to draft gresham. Not only did they have far more pressing needs than at te, this was a very deep te crop and IMO it didn't make sense for any of them to be drafted in the first
It's hard to imagine that atlanta is looking at another winning season when it took forver to just get two good seasons in a row
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PatrickT
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I never took the gresham rumors seriously, personally. Nor the rumors about hometown hero Demaryius Thomas. I thought it would be Graham or Spoon all along.
'preciate the props, sometimes it feels like I'm just talkin' to myself in here! Take advantage of the news and go get Moore, people whose opinions I respect concerning the Falcons feel he will be an outright beast in our secondary.
'preciate the props, sometimes it feels like I'm just talkin' to myself in here! Take advantage of the news and go get Moore, people whose opinions I respect concerning the Falcons feel he will be an outright beast in our secondary.
