massraider
Footballguy
Yep, he fits with the new offense, too.
As I understand it, they are going to have Smith line up in a 9-yard shotgun, and kick it to his WRs. DGB's ability to high point the ball will be
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As I understand it, they are going to have Smith line up in a 9-yard shotgun, and kick it to his WRs. DGB's ability to high point the ball will be
Sabertooth
Footballguy
just go the 6 pick in a superflex. So I guess he's probably in play.
Run It Up
Footballguy
Man these guys are really going out on a limb with their bull#### opinions.
I'm not a subscriber so I can't say for certain but on the Audible they completely ignored DGB besides one off the cuff comment about watching him on tape and being impressed.
No one is willing to commit to an actual projection of what hes gonna do in the NFL, just either he'll be amazing or nothing at all. Pretty lame.
I'm not a subscriber so I can't say for certain but on the Audible they completely ignored DGB besides one off the cuff comment about watching him on tape and being impressed.
No one is willing to commit to an actual projection of what hes gonna do in the NFL, just either he'll be amazing or nothing at all. Pretty lame.
Englishteacher
Footballguy
I kind of hope he falls to late second (real NFL) so the guppies in my league don't grab him. He could easily be the SOD (real NFL and fantasy) if he turns the character things around and gets dialed in.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
You really shouldn't be hoping that. The higher he's drafted, the more opportunities he'll get. And the higher he's drafted, the more secure you can be in your evaluation of him. The NFL is pretty damn good at this talent evaluation stuff, no matter how much we want to talk about busts and steals. If you're a fan of DGB, already own him, or want to own him, you want to see an NFL team take a swing on him as early as possible. The more a team has invested in him, the better the chance he'll succeed and/or maintain value through any future...off-field hiccups.
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Sabertooth
Footballguy
Yep. The higher the pick, the higher the confidence. If he goes top 20, push your chips in. If he goes around pick 60....he didn't warrant the risk for the NFL despite his size.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
It's a good fit on the field but you really think the team that just endured the Ray Rice scandal is going to draft DGB?
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I do think he's drafted tonight, and I think the destination might be surprising.
Chaos Commish
Footballguy
I've been very high on him since January, but week by week I watch a little more and slowly I've lost interest. He's soft, which explains much of what Gruden sees. Not that Gruden is a guru, or me, and certainly DGB has the body and skillset to be excellent, but he needs to play angry and dominate. He needs to be more aggressive in his routes. I hear he was very hard working in his year off so, who knows.
That definitely has to be considered but they have shown in he past they will take players with questionable character concerns, especially if they are physical freaks. It will be interesting to see how they operate post-rice. I think the presence of Steve smith could play a huge role. That dude will put dbg into place. He used to punk chad Johnson at Santa Monica junior college.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Whoops. On to round two!
ex-ghost
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Idk about that. There are very real holes in his game, he's not an A+ receiving prospect with character concerns, he's a B prospect with character concerns but intriguing measurables.
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Milkman
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I'm a DGB guy, I own him already in a devy league. I just don't see that. He doesn't always play to his size unless you're watching his Kentucky game highlights, he is limited after the catch and has build-up speed. Isn't physical off the line. I like him and he provides some unique things to an NFL offense but he's not well-rounded right now and doesn't run a lot of routes.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
i also think his athleticism is a bit over-rated. He's got size and is fast but he's not close to being a freak athletically like Calvin Johnson. Can't find it now but something i think called *sparq* score where they weigh the aggregate of their skills showed him to be pretty average.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
He is a freak, just not a generational god-like being like Calvin. Hard to hold that against him, really. Athleticism isn't his problem unless someone has been deluded into thinking he's the next Calvin by whatever hype they've read.
i also think his athleticism is a bit over-rated. He's got size and is fast but he's not close to being a freak athletically like Calvin Johnson. Can't find it now but something i think called *sparq* score where they weigh the aggregate of their skills showed him to be pretty average.
Milkman
Footballguy
I'm not as concerned with him on the field even though he is raw we are also judging him on what we saw two years ago. Players improve their technique from year to year. I'm concerned with him getting fat or off field issues. If he puts on to much weight he will lose his explosiveness which was exciting to see on his tape at his size. He could have came into the combine 5-10 pounds lighter imo. He would have ran faster and jumped higher. Meh it really is a red flag but whatever. The upside is still there if someone can get him to focus.He is a freak, just not a generational god-like being like Calvin. Hard to hold that against him, really. Athleticism isn't his problem unless someone has been deluded into thinking he's the next Calvin by whatever hype they've read.
i also think his athleticism is a bit over-rated. He's got size and is fast but he's not close to being a freak athletically like Calvin Johnson. Can't find it now but something i think called *sparq* score where they weigh the aggregate of their skills showed him to be pretty average.
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cstu
Footballguy
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
YAAAASSS! Mariota gonna be slinging it to him all day.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
His sparq score was average. 48% - he basically is better than 48 of 100 NFL WRs in terms of overall profile, per sparq methodology. Way way way below Calvin Johnson, who had like a 99% score.
i also think his athleticism is a bit over-rated. He's got size and is fast but he's not close to being a freak athletically like Calvin Johnson. Can't find it now but something i think called *sparq* score where they weigh the aggregate of their skills showed him to be pretty average.
6-4 6-5 with ups is hard for NFL DBs to cover.
There's a lack of quality CBs entering the NFL that are over 6 feet tall.
He probably can oWn tons of NFL CBs with a lofted pass, but can he run a route sharp enough, well enough to get open against these smallish CBs with excellent lateral agility?
Best description I've seen is Hunter II. Most everything is repeated.
Kendall Wright is the man, not Hunter, in TEN. Some of the post-draft/post-pick snips incorrectly insinuate it'll be he and Hunter on the field with Walker owning the middle. If Wright is in the slot, fine, but their predominant set will not be to bench their uncoverable speedy lil bugger. It would be to actually have Kendall run more than a short route the D gives him and force them to try and match his insane quicks.
Job one for Marioto will surely be getting used to Wright's speed and the timing to lead him with passes.
I'm not sure how much it means if DGB is replacing Hunter, edging him out. Nate seemed to be opposite Wright more often than Hunter when they were predictably going to pass like on 3rd and 9. They signed Douglas and Whisenhunt likes a reliable vet.
Somewhere in here is WR McCluster.
My issue is Whisenhunt stated all spring how they'd do X, Y, Z and never did it. His lack of confidence in Hunter, his odd play calls to not throw to the WRs for about a half, putting old guys in at RB and giving them the rock often...he wasn't predictable or exciting. I will say that Whisenhunt, everywhere else, was a way better OC. The Titans had some vanilla Whisenhunt O last year. If that continues, Walker is Gates II and no one else really matters in the passing game.
There's a lack of quality CBs entering the NFL that are over 6 feet tall.
He probably can oWn tons of NFL CBs with a lofted pass, but can he run a route sharp enough, well enough to get open against these smallish CBs with excellent lateral agility?
Best description I've seen is Hunter II. Most everything is repeated.
Kendall Wright is the man, not Hunter, in TEN. Some of the post-draft/post-pick snips incorrectly insinuate it'll be he and Hunter on the field with Walker owning the middle. If Wright is in the slot, fine, but their predominant set will not be to bench their uncoverable speedy lil bugger. It would be to actually have Kendall run more than a short route the D gives him and force them to try and match his insane quicks.
Job one for Marioto will surely be getting used to Wright's speed and the timing to lead him with passes.
I'm not sure how much it means if DGB is replacing Hunter, edging him out. Nate seemed to be opposite Wright more often than Hunter when they were predictably going to pass like on 3rd and 9. They signed Douglas and Whisenhunt likes a reliable vet.
Somewhere in here is WR McCluster.
My issue is Whisenhunt stated all spring how they'd do X, Y, Z and never did it. His lack of confidence in Hunter, his odd play calls to not throw to the WRs for about a half, putting old guys in at RB and giving them the rock often...he wasn't predictable or exciting. I will say that Whisenhunt, everywhere else, was a way better OC. The Titans had some vanilla Whisenhunt O last year. If that continues, Walker is Gates II and no one else really matters in the passing game.
Faust
MVP
Mayock: Dorial Green-Beckham looks like 'a young Randy Moss'
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000490021/article/mayock-dorial-greenbeckham-looks-like-a-young-randy-moss
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000490021/article/mayock-dorial-greenbeckham-looks-like-a-young-randy-moss
cstu
Footballguy
Englishteacher
Footballguy
Would've liked DGB going to a big time passing attack that needed hands. Saints or
Pats.
Pats.
Both Wright and Douglas have played plenty outside. Douglas made a name for himself when Jones and Roddy got hurt moreso than when they were playing
Faust
MVP
NFL Draft: Fantasy reaction for Dorial Green-Beckham
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/fantasy-football-today/25170840/nfl-draft-fantasy-reaction-for-dorial-green-beckham
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/fantasy-football-today/25170840/nfl-draft-fantasy-reaction-for-dorial-green-beckham
lod01
Footballguy
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
thats what you get in the fantasy climate today, its almost as if people are scared to go against popular opinion.
you cannot teach his size and speed but he has off the field concerns? every player has off the field concerns, its just do they get caught.
VarsityBlues123
Footballguy
even with his off the field problems he fell only to pick 40.
after the big 5 in dyno, who do you want over dgb? if he didnt have off the field problems he would be top 3 hopefull teams will help him avoid getting caught.
i say pick 6 in a vacuum is fair for a guy with his talent yet issues. that talent wont last long in my draft.
after the big 5 in dyno, who do you want over dgb? if he didnt have off the field problems he would be top 3 hopefull teams will help him avoid getting caught.
i say pick 6 in a vacuum is fair for a guy with his talent yet issues. that talent wont last long in my draft.
Shutout
Footballguy
I see the same in my leagues. I think a lot of people are going to be staring at him at 1.09-1.12 with some decisions to make across leagues.
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
Just went 1.6 in two drafts
Sabertooth
Footballguy
I like him but don't want to pull the trigger at 10 with him. Perriman is well ahead on my board. Almost as big, quite a bit faster and no off field issues.
Run It Up
Footballguy
