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Did Jax just draft a punter? (1 Viewer)

I guess that's what happens when your QB is Gabbert. Gameplan clearly isn't to convert 3rd downs.

 
They know they're gonna have a lot of 2 and outs (Gabbert quits and takes the fetal position on 3rd downs) so they need to be ready to punt a lot.

 
The Packers traded up to draft a punter when Mike Sheman was running the show. Yeah, good times. He was a solid head coach but that draft pick about summed him up as a GM.

The Jaguars should be embarrassed. There are a ton of talented players out there right now...and they pass up on all of them for a freakin' punter. Horrible. I bet he has high character though.

 
'trader jake said:
The Packers traded up to draft a punter when Mike Sheman was running the show. Yeah, good times. He was a solid head coach but that draft pick about summed him up as a GM.The Jaguars should be embarrassed. There are a ton of talented players out there right now...and they pass up on all of them for a freakin' punter. Horrible. I bet he has high character though.
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simply unacceptablewanna tell me you were 12-4 team needing a top punter...fine, but a team with THAT many holes.Unacceptable
 
Some years no punters are taken in the NFL draft, and when punters are drafted, it’s usually late enough that they have to be a little bit nervous that they’re not going to get drafted at all. But this year there’s one punter who’s sure he’s going to be selected.

Bryan Anger, a three-time all-conference punter from Cal, says he’s very confident that some NFL team plans to take him.

“I think I’m the top guy that’s going to go,” Anger told the Bay Area News Group. “I’m pretty much guaranteed to get drafted.”

Anger says he’s so sure he’ll be drafted that he’s having a draft party where he and his friends and family can celebrate. He is realistic enough about when he’ll be drafted that the party is on Saturday, when Rounds 4-7 take place. Anger said he isn’t the least bit nervous that at the end of the party, after Mr. Irrelevant is chosen, he still won’t have an NFL home.

“We’ll see what really happens,” he said. “I think I’m going to be calm.”

Anger is right that he’s generally recognized as the best punter out there, after a college career in which he averaged 43.5 yards a punt and had 90 punts inside the 20-yard line. So if there’s an NFL team looking for a player with a strong leg and a strong opinion of his own pro prospects, Anger is the man.
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The dude's party hadn't even started yet.
 
'Raider Nation said:
Some years no punters are taken in the NFL draft, and when punters are drafted, it’s usually late enough that they have to be a little bit nervous that they’re not going to get drafted at all. But this year there’s one punter who’s sure he’s going to be selected.

Bryan Anger, a three-time all-conference punter from Cal, says he’s very confident that some NFL team plans to take him.

“I think I’m the top guy that’s going to go,” Anger told the Bay Area News Group. “I’m pretty much guaranteed to get drafted.”

Anger says he’s so sure he’ll be drafted that he’s having a draft party where he and his friends and family can celebrate. He is realistic enough about when he’ll be drafted that the party is on Saturday, when Rounds 4-7 take place. Anger said he isn’t the least bit nervous that at the end of the party, after Mr. Irrelevant is chosen, he still won’t have an NFL home.

“We’ll see what really happens,” he said. “I think I’m going to be calm.”

Anger is right that he’s generally recognized as the best punter out there, after a college career in which he averaged 43.5 yards a punt and had 90 punts inside the 20-yard line. So if there’s an NFL team looking for a player with a strong leg and a strong opinion of his own pro prospects, Anger is the man.
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The dude's party hadn't even started yet.
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:lmao:
 
'trader jake said:
The Packers traded up to draft a punter when Mike Sheman was running the show. Yeah, good times. He was a solid head coach but that draft pick about summed him up as a GM.The Jaguars should be embarrassed. There are a ton of talented players out there right now...and they pass up on all of them for a freakin' punter. Horrible. I bet he has high character though.
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didn't Sherman draft Rodgers
 
Let's not piss ourselves laughing just yet.

The Raiders took Ray Guy in round 1. Eyebrows were raised. That turned out pretty well.

The big difference there, however, is that Oakland was 10-3-1 the year before. They badly needed a punter as one of the final pieces of the puzzle. This selection is a little more curious, given Jacksonville's many needs.

 
'KellysHeroes said:
'trader jake said:
The Packers traded up to draft a punter when Mike Sheman was running the show. Yeah, good times. He was a solid head coach but that draft pick about summed him up as a GM.The Jaguars should be embarrassed. There are a ton of talented players out there right now...and they pass up on all of them for a freakin' punter. Horrible. I bet he has high character though.
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didn't Sherman draft Rodgers
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First draft pick of Ted Thompson as GM of the Packers. He started in January of 2005 and selected Rodgers three months later.
 
'trader jake said:
'KellysHeroes said:
'trader jake said:
The Packers traded up to draft a punter when Mike Sheman was running the show. Yeah, good times. He was a solid head coach but that draft pick about summed him up as a GM.The Jaguars should be embarrassed. There are a ton of talented players out there right now...and they pass up on all of them for a freakin' punter. Horrible. I bet he has high character though.
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didn't Sherman draft Rodgers
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First draft pick of Ted Thompson as GM of the Packers. He started in January of 2005 and selected Rodgers three months later.
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thanks
 
'Raider Nation said:
Let's not piss ourselves laughing just yet. The Raiders took Ray Guy in round 1. Eyebrows were raised. That turned out pretty well.The big difference there, however, is that Oakland was 10-3-1 the year before. They badly needed a punter as one of the final pieces of the puzzle. This selection is a little more curious, given Jacksonville's many needs.
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Maybe Khan is on his way to being the next Al Davis?The last few years of "excellence" at least.
 
'trader jake said:
'Raider Nation said:
Let's not piss ourselves laughing just yet. The Raiders took Ray Guy in round 1. Eyebrows were raised. That turned out pretty well.The big difference there, however, is that Oakland was 10-3-1 the year before. They badly needed a punter as one of the final pieces of the puzzle. This selection is a little more curious, given Jacksonville's many needs.
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Maybe Khan is on his way to being the next Al Davis?The last few years of "excellence" at least.
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Khan wouldn't know a football from a meatball.
 
I'm pretty sure Anger is the only NCAA punter who the fans chant for. ("Bry-An An-Ger <clap, clap, clap clap clap>"). His leg is incredible. He's the only guy I've seen punt spirals.

That being said, there's no reason to take a punter in the third round. Go Bears, anyway (although he'll bump Nick Harris, another Bear).

 
Don't forget, he could take on added value next year when the NFL eliminates kickoffs.

"Punting off" after a score is under serious consideration.

:mellow:

 
Raiders are the only team that can't be laughed at about early-round specialists. But they are the exception :)

-QG

 
This thread is great. Punter in the third, almost as good as the guy that took Kellen Winslow in my zealot league years ago with the 1.1. So when is jacksonville moving to LA?

 
I applaud the front office for being honest about how bad they effed this up with Gabbert last year. They know they are going to be punting a lot, might as well have one of the best.

 
Paul Kuharsky, ESPN

The Jacksonville Jaguars have been accused (occasionally by me) of not doing well enough in assessing how the rest of the league's teams value some players they draft.Some personnel people around the league say the Jaguars simply don’t care about that. In a way, I admire them for it. Don’t be overly concerned and influenced by the forces around you, by the competition. Do your own thing. Bank on your convictions.But when it comes to taking Cal punter Bryan Anger in the third round, the Jaguars absolutely should care about league context.I know at least one other team had him rated as a fifth-rounder.Anger is first punter to go in the top 100 picks since 1995, when Todd Sauerbrun went in the second round to Chicago, 56th overall.There is a reason for that.It’s important that you don’t punt terribly. But it’s not so important that you punt fantastically, certainly not important enough that you sacrifice the chance to improve at a position that could be on the field for three downs a game.“I think it will be evident when you get a chance to see him punt: He’s got a strong history which I feel will transfer to this level in helping us defensively with the yardage we can gain in field position,” general manager Gene Smith said.“… He’s the player in that round at your pick that you feel can upgrade your football team. I think that’s an easy decision for me, to get a starter in the third round.”Calling a punter a starter is beyond a stretch.The Jaguars' defense played 970 plays in 2011. The Jaguars' offense played 958 plays. The Jaguars punted 99 times.“I think it’s first downs that you gain,” Smith said in a further defense of the pick. “And I feel like in the third round it’s not a round that you always get proven starters.”Really?In Smith’s three previous drafts, he picked four times in the third round. Guard Will Rackley, defensive tackle Terrance Knighton and cornerback Derek Cox are starters. The only non-starter, defensive tackle D’Anthony Smith, has missed his first two seasons with injuries.Jacksonville averaged 41.9 yards per punt last season, 31st in NFL. It averaged 36.5 net yards per punt, 28th in NFL. Those numbers were, in part, a testament to the team’s foolish conclusion that greybeard Matt Turk was the man to replace Adam Podlesh, who left for Chicago as a free agent.The Jaguars cut Turk after five games, going with Nick Harris the rest of the way. Harris was 3 yards, and 5.1 net yards, better per punt than Turk had been.A longer punt is easier to cover, so this is too simple.Nevertheless, here is my counterproposal to drafting Anger 70th:Jacksonville uses an average punter and boosts its net average to what was the midpoint for 2011. By my calculations, that would give the Jaguars an extra 15.5 net yards a game. Then use the 70th pick on an offensive lineman who, as part of a better scheme, could help cut the Jaguars’ sack yardage in half. That would give the team an extra 10.3 yards a game, and also help young quarterback Blaine Gabbert not worry so much about getting crunched.The overall gain from my plan -- not just estimating that the average that will come with a big leg, but actually factoring in context -- would be better.The goal is not to punt, and you drafted a punter. That was the first thing a reporter in Jacksonville said to coach Mike Mularkey after the pick.“And hold, hold for extra points,” Mularkey said. “If you want to write about him, he’s a really good holder for extra points and field goals, and he just so happens to be a difference-maker when it comes to punting.”Oh, he holds, too? Well, that changes everything.No, actually, any guy on offense with good hands, starting with your backup quarterback, should be able to function as a holder.Maybe Anger is the league’s best punter and holder for 15 years.Even if he is, it says here there will be at least three dozen players among the picks after Anger who have more impactful careers than he will. And that’s a modest 20 percent of the 183 guys we’re talking about. If the Jaguars missed on him by two rounds, maybe it’s 64 players. It could be more.Are the Jaguars, coming off a 5-11 season, good enough that they can pass on such potential people? They are not. Perhaps are they expecting Gabbert to be terrible again, knowing they’ll be punting a ton and being proactive?They need more guys who can score touchdowns or stop touchdowns. Get more guys who can get you first downs and you’ll punt less, kicking more field goals and scoring more touchdowns. Get more guys who can stop a third-down run or break up a third-down pass and you’ll be fielding punts, not covering them.Do those things and getting a few additional yards when you have to kick the ball away doesn’t mean so much.Know where you have a chance to add guys who fit that bill?With the third-round pick you just used on a punter.Too often the Jaguars are a punching bag or a punch line.This time, they deserve it.
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