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WR Josh Gordon, KC (15 Viewers)
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Hooper31
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BassNBrew
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rockaction
Footballguy
How about if you declare something? The burden of proof is on you to come up with reasons for a pretty hyperbolic comment. You're the one throat punching ponies for repeating things they heard from broadcasts and linking to nothing in lieu of.
Perhaps you can try something out that leads to something productive instead of uttering declarations as gospel.
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Hooper31
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Fair enough.
His Weekly Top 10 is a fantastic read each week. He's not married to anyone in the NFL when it comes to evaluation and backs up his opinions with outstanding objective observations all the time. His observations are based in the same format that he utilizes to scout players coming into the NFL. It's not based in like or dislike. He has a system of evaluation that mirrors the way a professional scout evaluates any talent. it's refreshing and unemotional.
rockaction
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Thanks, Hooper31. For what it's worth, I read him, too, and find him an excellent and dispassionate evaluator.
BassNBrew
Footballguy
He’s a great read, but so was the fiction The Lord of the Rings. Obviously the evaluation model isn’t working.
rockaction
Footballguy
This thread was much more fun when the denials were plausible.
BassNBrew
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rockaction
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BassNBrew
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rockaction
Footballguy
You capitalized "A" in ability like Hester Prynne. Josh should have to publicly wear the "A" for the rest of life, indebted to fantasy GMs everywhere.
whole-show
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The Frankman
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Hot Sauce Guy
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While unsurprising, it Is a little bit sad. i was kinda hoping he was on the right track.
that said, his release by the WR-starved Pats makes sense. I don’t understand why it took this long though.
that said, his release by the WR-starved Pats makes sense. I don’t understand why it took this long though.
matttyl
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seahawk 17
Footballguy
Sad.
My feeling as well. Doesn't seem like a bad guy.
Even though he was playing for the Seahawks, I was hoping he could stay on track. Unfortunate.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
It's not really that sad anymore. That ended after chance #3, IMO.
Hot Sauce Guy
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Wu-banger
Footballguy
NFL does not consider weed a "substance of abuse" - that's saved for harder drugs that Gordon has a long history of....
Hot Sauce Guy
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I mean, it’s always sad. Maybe no shock to it any more, but it’s never not sad when anyone succumbs to addiction like that.
As someone who’s dabbled in recreational enhancements but doesn’t have a very addictive personality, it’s hard for me to imagine trading getting high for an NFL career.
but then, I’m the kind of guy who can have a single beer with dinner, and move on with my evening while others I know are incapable of that sort of moderation.
sports_fan
Footballguy
Dude is done. One of the biggest “what if’s” in recent history. Had one of the best seasons ever in 2013 despite being suspended the first 2 games
Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
I have been a Gordon supporter for along time. Years.
However, when he was not able to stick with New England, I knew that there was an issue. It was a big red flag. I knew the support staff that they had surrounded him with. I suspected he had violated the substance abuse policy there. This confirms that in my mind.
I doubt Josh is going to make it back on the field again also. I think that was it for him. A shame.
Wish Josh Gordon the best moving forward.
However, when he was not able to stick with New England, I knew that there was an issue. It was a big red flag. I knew the support staff that they had surrounded him with. I suspected he had violated the substance abuse policy there. This confirms that in my mind.
I doubt Josh is going to make it back on the field again also. I think that was it for him. A shame.
Wish Josh Gordon the best moving forward.
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Hot Sauce Guy
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Hairy Snowman
Footballguy
I am more willing to bet he was never able to recapture his previous abilities and was looking for a way to do that. Most athletes will do anything to compete. It is a shame for JG.
Wingnut
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I thought he’d said he played high all the time in college & in the magical season.
i agree he may have thought, “oh, I need to be high - that’s what worked so well before!” because addicts tell themselves stuff like that all the time to justify getting high.
I honestly was rooting for him in Seattle. Thought he’d finally put it behind him. I can’t imagine what the future looks like for JG now. “Bleak” come to mind.
seahawk 17
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Bigboy10182000
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There’s no addiction. He just doesn’t care about football and never has. He comes back long enough to make a million or two and just takes the rest of the year off. He’ll do the same thing next year
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Last catch in an NFL game will be 58 yards, some guys never make a 50 yard catch their entire careers, tragedy and waste of talent.
I used to wish that he would get the help he needed but this is going to go down a long dark path that will likely end with Gordon leaving this World a little before he should, just my gut feelings at this point.
I used to wish that he would get the help he needed but this is going to go down a long dark path that will likely end with Gordon leaving this World a little before he should, just my gut feelings at this point.
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sports_fan
Footballguy
Did he study something in college that makes you think he’ll become an astronaut?
Cjw_55106
Footballguy
I’d be willing to agree if it wasn’t PED’s. Even if it was both, the PED’s were a choice, not an addiction.
Stealthycat
Footballguy
Gordon is a great example to show young kids just how addictive drugs are
everyone would say there is NO WAY they'd stay addicted to drugs and give up millions of dollars (tens of millions) .......... and yet that's exactly what happened :(
damn sad
everyone would say there is NO WAY they'd stay addicted to drugs and give up millions of dollars (tens of millions) .......... and yet that's exactly what happened :(
damn sad
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
This is an awful comment, regardless of how you feel about guys being spoonfed multiple chances and whether they deserve it or not.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Like many I am disappointed that we never saw him realize his full potential. One of my favorite years of FF was when I picked him up in 2013 and he went banana's.
Bigboy10182000
Footballguy
Why do people think all football players like the game? It’s just a job to some
He’s working the system and getting what he wants. Makes a few million than back to the party. Beats applying at Beat Buy right?
DallasDMac
Footballguy
But... but... but... potential!!!!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
trader jake
Footballguy
In the same game where he had a pass attempt intercepted. Seems about right.
Good luck to him off the field, but he's done on it.
wgoldsph
Footballguy
Is he though? Every article and interview I've read has been about how he's too ####ed up to spend time with his kids.Bigboy10182000 said:Why do people think all football players like the game? It’s just a job to some
He’s working the system and getting what he wants. Makes a few million than back to the party. Beats applying at Beat Buy right?
