bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Gase is a joke....feel bad for you jets fans
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RB Le'Veon Bell, FA - 9.6.21 Workout For Baltimore (9 Viewers)
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Flying Elvis
Footballguy
Article link, which should make the discussion less speculative.
I stand by the cheese for brains comment. lol
I stand by the cheese for brains comment. lol
Flying Elvis
Footballguy
I'm hoping for an AFC East trifecta. Gase gets fired next year and then signs with Buffalo.
Warhogs
Footballguy
If I owned Bell I would be moving him. Age, prior suspensions, new team. How great is Bell vs. how great is the system he played in? DeAngelo Williams put up big numbers near the end of his career when he had to step in. James Conner put up pretty big numbers when he had to step in. I'm not saying Bell is junk but I think there are a lot of things pointing to a lot less success with the Jets.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Shame. A high character guy like Bell deserves better.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Adam Gase essentially told Stephen Ross to #### himself. This is going to be fun. Both these men deserve each other. The sad part of it is Darnold looks like he’s an actual franchise QB. Gase could crush that or it could be 3-5 years before they’re able to put a team around him.
grateful zed
Footballguy
poor leveon :(
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
The money is already paid. He's didn't want to pay the RB position that much. He's going to play Bell and play Bell a lot.
bostonfred
Footballguy
6-10
irish eyes
Footballguy
This has disaster written all over it.Bojang0301 said:
Birdie048
Footballguy
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
I didn't say I was drafting him. I don't know if he'll be successful. I'm just saying I'd be absolutely shocked if he doesn't use Bell as a 3-Down back.
steelers1080
Footballguy
I don't think this changes anything for Bell or his fantasy prospects. Either way Bell was going to get cut or traded after the 2020 season when his guaranteed money has mostly run out. Bell will be a Jet for 2 years, when he'll move on or retire. I think that there's less than a 10% chance that he's a Jet at the start of the 2021 season, especially if other RB contracts for decent RBs come in at a value lower than his.
That said, I think that they use Bell a ton this year and next, and that he has enough volume to be a top 12 RB, but not top 5.
That said, I think that they use Bell a ton this year and next, and that he has enough volume to be a top 12 RB, but not top 5.
Franknbeans
Footballguy
That was my thought when he signed the contract but now I could see them actually upping this a year via trade and parting ways after just one year. If Jets traded him before June 1 next year they would take a $6M dead money hit but money spent is money spent, that's a sunk cost. They would actually save $9.5M in cap space. Extra cap space for 2020, draft pick compensation and being done paying RB major money might all be to much for them to pass next year if things don't great for all parties involved this upcoming season.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Why would a team give up a pick next year when they could have had him without sacrificing a pick this year?
Not saying it's easy or he'd be in high demand but the guarantees would be considerably less and would end totally after one year of service.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
I know I’m probably classified as a hater at this point but I would have legitimate concern that Gase gets pissed about Bell’s running style. I remember thinking at times during his Steelers days that the Steelers are one of the few teams who staff tolerates this.
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
Never mind... skipped over the trade rumors. Life comes at you fast. Pittsburgh should cough up a two just to be the most bitter team of all time.
Since any team that acquired him before the season would owe him all but $2M of the contract he signed the only way I think this happens is something like an Osweiler trade where Jets have to pay someone to take Bell. I'd not rule it out.
ETA- Actually I was not thinking straight when I wrote the above.
If the Jets traded him this off-season they would have covered $8M of his bonus but they could do it from a cap angle with ease.
The team trading him for him would essentially owe him this:
2019: $6.5M with another $500K available in "other bonus" which at most pushes his pay to $7M.
2020-$13.5M which I think is fully guaranteed.
So two years of Bell for $20M and no cap hit if they want out. That's not so bad.
Then if his potential new team wanted to keep him:
2021- $11.5M without a penny guaranteed
So two years of Bell essentially guaranteed to cost $20M for two years or 3 years of Bell for $31.5M with $20M guaranteed and zero cap hit to release him after two years.
Looking at how Gase wanted some key talent out of Miami he did not think helped the culture he was trying to create along with Bell no-showing the off season for the most part I can absolutely see this happening. Tampa?
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GroveDiesel
Footballguy
I agree, but just this rumor has to have Bell fuming, right? This team could completely blow up before Week 1 even hits. I'd say there's a non-zero chance that Gase is fired before ever coaching a game in NY.
Flying Elvis
Footballguy
He’d be in good company. The list of “Jets head coaches who never coached a game” has an incredible track record of subsequent success.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Bojang0301
Omar4Heisman
You doubt John Clayton? He broke the news about Ollie Matson being traded that sent shockwaves throughout the league.
That's how I see it. Gase does not dislike Bell, he dislikes paying the position that much money and I think some people are confusing the two.Or much ado about nothing.
kittenmittens
Footballguy
If there were a suitor... They would have fricken signed Bell or at least have been in on it so the idiot Jets were not bidding against themselves...
kittenmittens
Footballguy
Does that mean Gase is more or less likely to make an example out of Le'veon when he looks at Gase the wrong way?
I really like Le'veon, but Gase is a complete idiot who constantly makes points by benching the best players. Jay Ajayi, Devante Parker, Kenyan Drake were all held back by Gase being so smart he can win with inferior talent as long as they obey his every command at all times.
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matuski
Footballguy
Warhogs
Footballguy
Correct me if I am wrong but has happened before I believe? And I think the Jets were involved? I thought they signed Teddy Bridgewater, drafted Darnold and then traded Bridgewater to the Saints for a pick? I'm going on my feeble memory so I may be wrong.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I think that's true.
And I think I read that if the Jets trade him, they eat the signing bonus - which would be enticing to the new team.
It would be similar to the Browns paying umpteen million dollars to Houston to get Osweiler and a second.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
The Jets are not trading Bell this year.
Kwai Chang Caine
Footballguy
I just got him pick 2 of round 2. It’s an FFPC superflex league where Mahomes and Luck are already drafted but even still he’s likely falling to the 12-14 overall range. I couldn’t pass him up.
nittanylion
Footballguy
Lev Bell hangs out w the wrong people...
ghostguy123
Footballguy
nittanylion
Footballguy
I'm a dinosaur, can't post links from my phone. Google 'Leveon Bell girlfriends jewelry theft'
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