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Speaking Tuesday, Jets coach Adam Gase said he wanted to do a better job of utilizing Le'Veon Bell as a receiver. 

Considering the Jets' dire personnel and injury issues at wideout, this is Gase's way of admitting he has no choice. "I feel like we can find better ways to get him the ball to help him create more explosive plays," Gase said. "We can get him in space better than we did last year." Bell caught 66 passes in 2019, so it's not exactly like he was forgotten as a pass catcher. Most of Bell's camp reports have been negative, with one reporter going so far as to say he "looks slow." Gase has hinted at a meaningful role for Frank Gore. Bell is correctly being drafted in the low-end RB2 range. 

SOURCE: Rich Cimini on Twitter 

Sep 1, 2020, 1:09 PM ET

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Jets head coach Adam Gase said his late-August issues with RB Le'Veon Bell were nothing more than a "miscommunication." 

Apparently Bell had experienced some hamstring tightness in practice, even though he denied it on social media. Bell believed he could continue practicing through the hamstring issue, but Gase held him out. It's just the latest conflict between Gase and the running back he never wanted. “I know how hard it is to believe that, but we actually like each other," Gase said of the hamstring issue. It is indeed hard to believe. 

SOURCE: Dennis Waszak, Jr. on Twitter 

Sep 3, 2020, 1:19 PM ET

 

 

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Anyone else targeting Bell in the 4th round? At least in full PPR, I think he has a bounce back season and ends up at the top of the RB2s even flirting with RB1 level. 

He's going to catch so many passes this year.

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In a 12 team FFPC PPR TE premium I just rostered him at 5.5.  Went Thomas, Hopkins, Golladay then David Johnson at 4.8.

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On 9/4/2020 at 9:22 PM, Riflemen said:

In a 12 team FFPC PPR TE premium I just rostered him at 5.5.  Went Thomas, Hopkins, Golladay then David Johnson at 4.8.

I got him at 5.11. I  get why he is falling, but this is ridiculous. 

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Fell to 4.10 in my 1/2 PPR last night.  I already had 2 RB's and the WR ranks (at least in terms of guys I was even remotely comfortable relying on as a WR1 or high end WR2) were getting thin, otherwise I might have taken him at 4.8

I think Gase is terrible and I think Bell has certainly lost at least a step. But even with the worst O-line in the league last year, he was still RB17 last year.  They invested a lot in improving the line so I HAVE to believe he'll do better than 3.2 YPC. If he only got that number up to a miserable 3.7 and scored 7 TD's (as opposed to the pathetic 4 he got last year) and his receiving number stayed the same, he'd be somewhere around RB10-12.

Now, that all depends on volume staying the same, which obviously isn't a guarantee. Its clear that Gase didn't want him, so I could certainly see him using old Man Gore more than he should just for spite. And if Bell still stinks on a per-carry basis, doesn't get the full time goal line work AND doesn't get back closer to his former averages, his value goes in the tank pretty quick.

All that being said, getting him at the end of the 5th is just silly.

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1 hour ago, TLEF316 said:

Fell to 4.10 in my 1/2 PPR last night.  I already had 2 RB's and the WR ranks (at least in terms of guys I was even remotely comfortable relying on as a WR1 or high end WR2) were getting thin, otherwise I might have taken him at 4.8

I think Gase is terrible and I think Bell has certainly lost at least a step. But even with the worst O-line in the league last year, he was still RB17 last year.  They invested a lot in improving the line so I HAVE to believe he'll do better than 3.2 YPC. If he only got that number up to a miserable 3.7 and scored 7 TD's (as opposed to the pathetic 4 he got last year) and his receiving number stayed the same, he'd be somewhere around RB10-12.

Now, that all depends on volume staying the same, which obviously isn't a guarantee. Its clear that Gase didn't want him, so I could certainly see him using old Man Gore more than he should just for spite. And if Bell still stinks on a per-carry basis, doesn't get the full time goal line work AND doesn't get back closer to his former averages, his value goes in the tank pretty quick.

All that being said, getting him at the end of the 5th is just silly.

I am starting to think Gase is gone by week 4.

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Le'Veon Bell rushed six times for 14 yards in Sunday's game against the Bills, adding two receptions for 32 yards before departing with a hamstring injury. 

Bell initially injured his hamstring on a first half reception but attempted to play through it. He was then announced as doubtful to return late in the third quarter. He won't. Bell got the start, but Frank Gore emerged on series two. Bell also played that series, so it was not a rotation. Bell was predictably stuck in neutral against the Bills' dominant front seven. It is too early to make any sweeping 2020 conclusions, but there is also nothing good to say. Bell should be considered highly questionable for Week 2 against the 49ers. 

- Rotoworld

 

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In all seriousness,  does he have any value right now? I'm pretty much dangling him out as sweetener in all my trade offers right now hoping his name piques a little interest.

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4 hours ago, Deranged Hermit said:

In all seriousness,  does he have any value right now? I'm pretty much dangling him out as sweetener in all my trade offers right now hoping his name piques a little interest.

he has looked like a corpse in his time with the jets, they have gase as HC and have gases's muse, frank gore roostered.  when they are 1-7 i figure they look at perine a bunch.  but these are the jets, so maybe gore gets 30 touches a game.  short of the matter is that bell would have no value to me in any format.

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I really don't want to roster the Jets backfield. already sitting on bell and gore.
does Adams play a role?
Perine?

Tempted to just drop all of it. 

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The last time Bell rushed for 100 yards was Week 15 of the 2017 season.  2017!  That same season, Lesean McCoy and CJ Anderson each rushed for over 1,000 yards, and backs like Alex Collins, Orleans Darkwa, Bilal Powell and Isaiah Crowell were all fantasy relevant.  In NFL terms, that is ancient history.  Bell was a quality back once upon a time, but he has not looked good in quite some time.  I have been holding onto him in a PPR Dynasty league, but I don't know how much longer I want to surrender a valuable roster spot to him.  His reception numbers keep him just valuable enough to hang onto in PPR, but not valuable enough to put into my lineup as more than an occasional flex or injury or bye-week sub.  I keep hoping he will have that one big game so I can unload him in a trade, but I may not wait that long.  If I can grab an upside player from the waiver wire, I may send Bell packing.  Bell offers no real future upside.  He is never again going to be the back he was in Pittsburgh.

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1 minute ago, socrates said:

The last time Bell rushed for 100 yards was Week 15 of the 2017 season.  2017!  That same season, Lesean McCoy and CJ Anderson each rushed for over 1,000 yards, and backs like Alex Collins, Orleans Darkwa, Bilal Powell and Isaiah Crowell were all fantasy relevant.  In NFL terms, that is ancient history.  Bell was a quality back once upon a time, but he has not looked good in quite some time.  I have been holding onto him in a PPR Dynasty league, but I don't know how much longer I want to surrender a valuable roster spot to him.  His reception numbers keep him just valuable enough to hang onto in PPR, but not valuable enough to put into my lineup as more than an occasional flex or injury or bye-week sub.  I keep hoping he will have that one big game so I can unload him in a trade, but I may not wait that long.  If I can grab an upside player from the waiver wire, I may send Bell packing.  Bell offers no real future upside.  He is never again going to be the back he was in Pittsburgh.

as a jet fan, i get the feeling that bell got paid, knows this is a losing team and is uninterested in trying.  i figure he is "hurt" most the year, collecting his money until he is cut next year.  even if he shocks me, this team is gonna be behind a bunch, not a formula for the run game.  oh and Gase.

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1 minute ago, socrates said:

The last time Bell rushed for 100 yards was Week 15 of the 2017 season.  2017!  That same season, Lesean McCoy and CJ Anderson each rushed for over 1,000 yards, and backs like Alex Collins, Orleans Darkwa, Bilal Powell and Isaiah Crowell were all fantasy relevant.  In NFL terms, that is ancient history.  Bell was a quality back once upon a time, but he has not looked good in quite some time.  I have been holding onto him in a PPR Dynasty league, but I don't know how much longer I want to surrender a valuable roster spot to him.  His reception numbers keep him just valuable enough to hang onto in PPR, but not valuable enough to put into my lineup as more than an occasional flex or injury or bye-week sub.  I keep hoping he will have that one big game so I can unload him in a trade, but I may not wait that long.  If I can grab an upside player from the waiver wire, I may send Bell packing.  Bell offers no real future upside.  He is never again going to be the back he was in Pittsburgh.

as a jet fan, i get the feeling that bell got paid, knows this is a losing team and is uninterested in trying.  i figure he is "hurt" most the year, collecting his money until he is cut next year.  even if he shocks me, this team is gonna be behind a bunch, not a formula for the run game.  oh and Gase.

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1 hour ago, Chemical X said:

as a jet fan, i get the feeling that bell got paid, knows this is a losing team and is uninterested in trying.  i figure he is "hurt" most the year, collecting his money until he is cut next year.  even if he shocks me, this team is gonna be behind a bunch, not a formula for the run game.  oh and Gase.

I dunno, wasn't he the one denying his injury and wanting to practice/play through it?  Saying how much he had to prove this year? 

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7 minutes ago, Manster said:

If the jets organization were a year, they'd be 2020

More like 1918.

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46 minutes ago, Deamon said:

I dunno, wasn't he the one denying his injury and wanting to practice/play through it?  Saying how much he had to prove this year? 

says his coach or him?  who knows, but there is no way this guys finished this season IMO.  just a gut feeling.

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This signing by Maccagnan :lmao:

It'd be so much funnier if it wasn't my favorite team that looks so inept from ownership on down. 

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1 minute ago, Deamon said:

Eligible to be back in 3 weeks.

IR doesn't mean the same thing it has in seasons past, but still, he will miss at least the next three games.  Is Gore the play here, or is is nobody?

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I tried and tried and tried to trade him all offseason. Finally moved him on September 6th for (what should be) an early 2nd in 2021. This is a salary cap league where is the 14th highest paid player.

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10 minutes ago, socrates said:

IR doesn't mean the same thing it has in seasons past, but still, he will miss at least the next three games.  Is Gore the play here, or is is nobody?

gore/adams if desperate.  Otherwise nobody

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32 minutes ago, Chemical X said:

says his coach or him?  who knows, but there is no way this guys finished this season IMO.  just a gut feeling.

Says both.

No way he's finished this season?  Or did you mean no way he finishes this season?

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13 minutes ago, socrates said:

IR doesn't mean the same thing it has in seasons past, but still, he will miss at least the next three games.  Is Gore the play here, or is is nobody?

Nobody is gonna save your team, if that's what you're asking. It's gonna be a Ballage/Gore/Perine/Adams RBBC. This team is pathetic.

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Funny thing is, the coach thinks he's riding a guy out of town. Truth is, the ####### is riding his own clown show to an early firing. 

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41 minutes ago, JoeSteeler said:

I tried and tried and tried to trade him all offseason. Finally moved him on September 6th for (what should be) an early 2nd in 2021. This is a salary cap league where is the 14th highest paid player.

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Almost feel like if Gase is fired, he's gonna get another shot as the workhorse and kill it just despite Gase.  Which if the Jets start terribly, he will probably be gone by week 10.

At this point his trade value is nothing, you may as well hold on to him at this point and hope for that Gase firing.

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3 hours ago, Deamon said:

Says both.

No way he's finished this season?  Or did you mean no way he finishes this season?

finishes, damn autocorrect.....

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I feel like I want to try to trade for him in redraft and pay next to nothing but then I'll later realize next to nothing was overpaying...

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maybe steve cohen has enough left to pick up the jets and get them a stadium at belmont, where they belong.

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A lil aside....

The league I had him in we can make an immediate IR move as soon as the player is off the teams official roster, or shows up on NFL.com's transactions.......I was able to dump him and snag Snell......that worked out great!  So happy to have that turd gone for a solid back on a solid team.

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ESPN’s Jeremy Fowler reports Le’Veon Bell (hamstring, IR) is targeting a Week 5 return.

The Jets expect to get Bell back when first eligible.  He can resume practicing next week and should return for a matchup with the Cardinals. Bell will be working against negative gamescripts on the winless Jets, but with Jamison Crowder (hamstring) and Breshad Perriman (ankle) injured, he could see higher than the 57% of snaps he was playing before going down.

SOURCE: ESPN

Sep 30, 2020, 9:41 AM ET

 

 

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Have a feeling Bell is gonna go off the week Gase is fired.

Hopefully week 5.

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3 minutes ago, Deamon said:

Have a feeling Bell is gonna go off the week Gase is fired.

Hopefully week 5.

Will help that any new coach won't be so smitten with Gore and unless you are a slot WR I guess it helps every player to break free from Gase.

My faint hope is Bell shows well and combined with some attrition around the league creates a trade market. I recall the trade rumors popping around him near the deadline last year but that never seemed feasible because of the guarantees in his contract and cap hit to Jets  and both of those are not factors any longer, just fitting in Bell's prorated pay for this season is only cap concern because his guarantees are over after that. But key to this happening is Bell needs to show he's worth it to a team in need, worth about $6M for half a season,  if he does I do think it's possible he is dealt.

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Actually Bell was having a pretty decent game usage wise - Gase probably should have let him rest or condition on the sideline, I think they’ll lean on him when he gets back.

It’s really sad seeing a pretty talented squad constantly falling into injury and disgruntlement. Darnold could end up like Rosen at this rate.

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Potentially coming off IR this week. If so, there's a strong likelihood he'll be plugged into my decimated/underperforming lineup at FLEX over Gallup.

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