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Jordan Reed - TE - SF (5 Viewers)

SameSongNDance said:
Looks to have been injured on his last catch. I'm not sure if it's serious or not.
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Completely guessing but it looked (Im hoping) like he may have landed on football and just got wind knocked out of him.

ETA- more like the crown of Briggs helmet catching him in the ribs....

 
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With Fred Davis a healthy scratch and then this first half, it's ***OFFICIAL***. Guy is a stud.

 
I have to thank Gronk for staying out during Clay's bye week to allow me to jump on board. Only wish I'd started him this week over the other two.

 
Bump!

ConnSKINS26 said:
This might sound stupid, but if he's a smart kid, in the long run it may be better for him that he missed OTA's with injury. Because he spent all of OTA's and minicamps working with RG3 directly, catching the ball and working out. Trust and a connection with your star QB is seriously underrated.
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Things are only going to get better, form here on out. Not only is he the guy at TE, he's the biggest mismatch on their roster, outside of a healthy RG3. The looks will keep coming, and I expect him to keep producing.

Dynasty shoppers have to make a call; it's only a wise buy if you think he's a top 5-7 guy moving forward. Otherwise, I think the ship has sailed. He's not going to come cheap.

 
I think he may have earned a flex spot. I'm starting Gronk over him always, but I'd probably start Reed over everyone but Gronk, Graham, Witten, JT, Cameron, and maybe Gonzo rest of the way. 3 straight solid weeks, and of course this 3rd one was beat mode.

 
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FUBAR said:
Eminence said:
Missed the boat on this cat, gonna try to acquire him.
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Good luck. In dynasty I turned down Vernon Davis for him.
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Great discipline on that. Kids finally shows up for Gronk Week!.
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Reed had showed up before now. Coming into week 7, Reed was one of just 7 rookie TEs since 1980 averaging 40 yards a game, one of just 3 rookie TEs since 1980 with 4 receptions per game.

Including this week, Reed currently holds the top mark for yards per game (59.6, tied with Jeremy Shockey), and passed Keith Jackson for the most receptions per game (5.2, vs. Jackson's 5.1).

 
I looked at him pretty hard around draft time and was not hugely impressed. He's a featherweight, will never block a soul, and really isn't THAT fast or explosive.

What I like about him from a FF standpoint is that he's a niche player whose only real utility happens to align perfectly with what's valuable from his position in FF: catching the ball. He's like the bizarro version of Richard Quinn, the blocking TE that the Broncos took in the 2nd round a few years back. He can't block. All he can do is run routes and catch passes. As long as Washington is willing to utilize him extensively in that role, he should be a good FF player.

I don't think he's as good as Hernandez (or even that close), but this reminds me of that situation. When Hernandez was coming out, I thought his weak blocking might keep him off the field. But he wasn't drafted to block and neither was Reed. They are pure receiving specialists. Obviously that has a lot of appeal in FF. I don't think he's some kind of a real life beast, but in FF he looks like a huge steal relative to what he cost a few months back.

 
EBF said:
I looked at him pretty hard around draft time and was not hugely impressed. He's a featherweight, will never block a soul, and really isn't THAT fast or explosive.

What I like about him from a FF standpoint is that he's a niche player whose only real utility happens to align perfectly with what's valuable from his position in FF: catching the ball. He's like the bizarro version of Richard Quinn, the blocking TE that the Broncos took in the 2nd round a few years back. He can't block. All he can do is run routes and catch passes. As long as Washington is willing to utilize him extensively in that role, he should be a good FF player.

I don't think he's as good as Hernandez (or even that close), but this reminds me of that situation. When Hernandez was coming out, I thought his weak blocking might keep him off the field. But he wasn't drafted to block and neither was Reed. They are pure receiving specialists. Obviously that has a lot of appeal in FF. I don't think he's some kind of a real life beast, but in FF he looks like a huge steal relative to what he cost a few months back.
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You're still selling him short. You'll keep coming around. ;)

 
I haven't seen him play. As ebf suggests is it just a role or does he have some nice qualities that make him this good?

 
3quinox said:
I haven't seen him play. As ebf suggests is it just a role or does he have some nice qualities that make him this good?
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Waldman called him the best after catch TE in the class. I agree with him.

He's very quick and fluid, and simply can't be covered 1-on-1 regularly. He's a mismatch at this level, and he established that very early. He's having one of the best TE seasons ever, in terms of receiving production. This isn't about his role.

 
3quinox said:
I haven't seen him play. As ebf suggests is it just a role or does he have some nice qualities that make him this good?
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To be clear, I was not trying to say that he's a talentless fluke.

To even get drafted in the top 100, you have to be good at SOMETHING. Even the players who fail like Ted Ginn and Jon Baldwin have good qualities. I think guys like Stedman Bailey and Marquise Goodwin were DOA busts in this last draft, but they still have good qualities. That's why some team was willing to invest in them. Teams looked at what those players offered and decided that those skills could be useful to how their team wanted to play. Goodwin will never be a complete WR, but maybe his scary 4.2 speed will open up the offense and make the other Buffalo WRs more effective. From that standpoint, maybe he'll justify that pick without ever becoming a viable starting WR in his own right.

As far as Reed goes, he is a player with a very specific skill set. He's very light and weak for a TE. Someone like Harbaugh who needs his TEs to catch AND block probably had zero interest in spending a high pick on Reed. But for a coach who falls in love with the receiving skills and is willing to make a commitment to using Reed in a role that's perfectly tailored to his skills, he can obviously offer something. He's a good receiver. He's more mobile than the average TE and better in space.

I'd almost compare it to Wes Welker. IMO Welker is not a top 10 NFL WR. He can't run deep routes. He can't block. He can't win a jump ball. For a lot of NFL teams, Wes Welker would NOT be a great WR. That's because he doesn't fit every scheme or role. You can't use him on the outside. You can't run deep routes with him. By putting him on the field, you are sacrificing certain things. I think that's probably why San Diego and Miami were willing to let him go without much fuss. They looked at him and probably said, "Nice slot WR, but not a complete player and doesn't fit our scheme. No big loss." What New England did that was pretty ingenious was look at Welker not in terms of his overall skill set, but rather in terms of the fraction of those overall skills that happens to be elite. Namely his ability as a reliable short-intermediate possession WR who can constantly uncover and convert when used in that capacity.

If Washington makes a similar commitment to Reed, there's no reason why he can't remain effective. Is he a complete TE? Absolutely not. Would he be a top 5 FF TE on every team in the NFL? Absolutely not. Would he even be on the field for 50%+ of the snaps for every NFL team? Probably not. Can he be a dynamic short-intermediate target for Washington if they tailor their offense to his strengths and use him in the very limited niche in which he thrives? Sure.

I don't hate Reed. I actually never did (I didn't love him either, but certainly didn't invest a lot of energy in dogging him). I just think he's a niche player. A specialist. A guy who does only one thing well. Like a long snapper or a third down back, but instead a full-time receiving TE who can basically function as a slot WR.

 
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