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I didn't realize he was not 100%. Has he been on any injury report in the past couple weeks? He looks healthy to me, or as healthy as anyone else in week 12.To be fair, he's still not 100%
I didn't realize he was not 100%. Has he been on any injury report in the past couple weeks? He looks healthy to me, or as healthy as anyone else in week 12.To be fair, he's still not 100%
His knee has been an issue all season - but he says he can play through it. I think it's only really bothered him in a couple of games this season - not too many.I didn't realize he was not 100%. Has he been on any injury report in the past couple weeks? He looks healthy to me, or as healthy as anyone else in week 12.
He was a tremendous weapon in Aaron Jones, who he (reportedly) lobbied for to get more playing time... yet when the play breaks down, and Aaron Jones is standing there in the flat, Rogers' action list is:To be fair, he's still not 100% and his receiving weapons are nothing like years past, but it's seeming more and more that Rodgers' greatness has devolved into very-goodness.
That's not true....Aaron Rodgers is now 0-37 when trailing by more than one point in the 4th quarter to a team with a winning record. That’s a real stat.
What’s the play ?I don’t know if it’s bad play design but a lot of their offense looks like him winging it. Stands and pumps and scrambles over and over or throws back shoulder throws again and again. Rarely does the ball come out on the top of his drop or close to it.
Not sure if he used to throw that way, but it was much easier when he could throw to any of Nelson/Cobb/Adams/Jones for some stretch of time - and add Lacy in his more svelte/productive days.I don’t know if it’s bad play design but a lot of their offense looks like him winging it. Stands and pumps and scrambles over and over or throws back shoulder throws again and again. Rarely does the ball come out on the top of his drop or close to it.
That's pretty silly. He's four years younger than Brees, two years younger than Rivers. He's having an off year but Green Bay's passing offense is still in the top 10 in the league.That's not true....
Regardless, I think his era is over. I don't think he'll ever play in the postseason again.
As much as I want to agree with you, it pains me to say that it's probably more of his team being complete garbage around him than him losing a step at this point.I've thought the same thing when watching him lately. He's definitely 'lost a step'
Let's not get carried away here. The Saints were 7-9 from 2014-2016 and look at them now. This Packer teams can do a quick retooling and be competitive again while Rodgers is great. With that being said Gutekunst needs to have much better drafts than TT did his last few years. I think he took a step in the right direction with this past draft. Need to keep building on that and of course a new head coach that's dialed into the modern NFL.That's not true....
Regardless, I think his era is over. I don't think he'll ever play in the postseason again.
Not really a comment about his ability, more about circumstance. Brees is older than Rodgers, but doesn't have his injury history. I'm not sure how much longer Rodgers can keep at it. Plus, the Packers are in the same division as the bears, who look like they can dominate the North for the next five years or so.Let's not get carried away here. The Saints were 7-9 from 2014-2016 and look at them now. This Packer teams can do a quick retooling and be competitive again while Rodgers is great. With that being said Gutekunst needs to have much better drafts than TT did his last few years. I think he took a step in the right direction with this past draft. Need to keep building on that and of course a new head coach that's dialed into the modern NFL.
No but that's on TT and he's gone though I fear a season or two too late. They have some excellent young talent with K Clark, Martinez and Alexander as pro bowl caliber players. And their offensive line gets a bad rap as Rodgers holds onto the ball too long. They aren't a bad group. Bulaga is getting near the end and they could use some depth at guard but it's not in dire straights by any means. They do have holes for sure. Badly in need of some pass rushers (mainly on the edge), Safety, Oline and Dline depth and a veteran WR assuming Cobb is not retained. Seems like a lot but with two 1st rounders next year and a new GM seemingly unafraid to make moves I'm not ready to put a bow on Rodgers' Packer career just yet.Not really a comment about his ability, more about circumstance. Brees is older than Rodgers, but doesn't have his injury history. I'm not sure how much longer Rodgers can keep at it. Plus, the Packers are in the same division as the bears, who look like they can dominate the North for the next five years or so.
Maybe Green Bay can turn it around, but they're going to need serious help on the offensive line. And they're going to need a pass rush and a more dominant defense. But drafting quality defensive players hasn't really been their strong suit.
He looks fine. He rolled out and moved up in the pocket a number of times yesterday without so much as a limp. Not trying to be argumentative, but I don't think he needs to be given an excuse. He's still got something like a 21-1 TD/INT ratio. Surrounding talent matters, and he's making his own human mistakes, that's all.His knee has been an issue all season - but he says he can play through it. I think it's only really bothered him in a couple of games this season - not too many.
I'm not going to go through every loss, so I don't know how inaccurate it is. I do remember one in particular...the last game of the 2013 season, Green Bay vs. Chicago. The bears had a one point lead to start the fourth quarter, and the Packers would go on to win with Rodgers' TD pass to Randall Cobb in the final minute of the game.Go on....
He has always played like this. The offensive scheme or play calls get altered by Rodgers willingness to scramble and wait for the defense to break down, a receiver to become wide open as a result of this.I don’t know if it’s bad play design but a lot of their offense looks like him winging it. Stands and pumps and scrambles over and over or throws back shoulder throws again and again. Rarely does the ball come out on the top of his drop or close to it.
Deetz on all his family issues?Something's not right, is it his injury lingering? His mental makeup from all his family issues? or likely his coach and talent around him isn't the best. Who knows. It's been a rough year for the Packers and the schedule gets somewhat easier but the NFC is tough.
I only got this from family at Thanksgiving so I'm not up on it all. Apparently he doesn't speak to his brother or parents and his brother really hates him and has been calling him out all week because Rodgers is donating money to California with all the Wildfires and being a spokesperson for it and didn't check up on his mother who is possibly living right in the mess of it? There's some sort of family rift.Deetz on all his family issues?
This is old news though, no? Year's old. Why would it suddenly be an issue now?Something's not right, is it his injury lingering? His mental makeup from all his family issues? or likely his coach and talent around him isn't the best. Who knows. It's been a rough year for the Packers and the schedule gets somewhat easier but the NFC is tough.
Guess his brother has been calling him out all week, and his mom was in the middle of all those fires in California. No idea but his family issue is a mess and who knows if the stress is finally getting to him, adding in that his coach is a moron as well.This is old news though, no? Year's old. Why would it suddenly be an issue now?
Looks to me like he's just forcing things that aren't there. This is two games in a row where a good chunk of the offensive blame falls on his shoulders IMO. If he cannot find a way to force himself to drop the ball off to his RBs and make first downs then this thing isn't getting any better. Must make it pretty easy to play defense.Guess his brother has been calling him out all week, and his mom was in the middle of all those fires in California. No idea but his family issue is a mess and who knows if the stress is finally getting to him, adding in that his coach is a moron as well.
I agree, just think there's a bunch of factors all jumbled together. It's weird to see him just not look good.Looks to me like he's just forcing things that aren't there. This is two games in a row where a good chunk of the offensive blame falls on his shoulders IMO. If he cannot find a way to force himself to drop the ball off to his RBs and make first downs then this thing isn't getting any better. Must make it pretty easy to play defense.
Have also read about that and read others chime in that his mother's house (which Rodgers bought his parents) wasn't even in the evacuation area).I only got this from family at Thanksgiving so I'm not up on it all. Apparently he doesn't speak to his brother or parents and his brother really hates him and has been calling him out all week because Rodgers is donating money to California with all the Wildfires and being a spokesperson for it and didn't check up on his mother who is possibly living right in the mess of it? There's some sort of family rift.
https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2018/11/25/aaron-rodgers-family-drama-mars-camp-fire-donations/
also a bunch of articles his EX said about his family in May.
I think a bit of opposite...he refuses to force anything and throws it away rather than throwing into tight windows for possible contested passes (even to Adams).Looks to me like he's just forcing things that aren't there. This is two games in a row where a good chunk of the offensive blame falls on his shoulders IMO. If he cannot find a way to force himself to drop the ball off to his RBs and make first downs then this thing isn't getting any better. Must make it pretty easy to play defense.
The stat is "more than one," not "one."I'm not going to go through every loss, so I don't know how inaccurate it is. I do remember one in particular...the last game of the 2013 season, Green Bay vs. Chicago. The bears had a one point lead to start the fourth quarter, and the Packers would go on to win with Rodgers' TD pass to Randall Cobb in the final minute of the game.
Sadly, it sure looks like this was his goal. He throws the ball away more than anyone in the league.
Favre was also fond of throwing interceptionsSadly, it sure looks like this was his goal. He throws the ball away more than anyone in the league.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-aaron-rodgers-set-to-shatter-throwaway-record
Favre was all about making plays. You can't make plays by not taking risks. Grow some balls, Rodgers.
Can't make the big play by throwing it out of bounds and punting all day.Favre was also fond of throwing interceptions
Steve McNair and Rich Gannon both won NFL MVP.This thread should be closed and a new one opened Patrick Mahomes is playing the QB position better than anyone...ever.
Yea this is a tough one. It sure seems like he's not taking enough risks. 359 passes without an INT, 18:1 rate on the year, and twice as many throwaways as any other QB? He definitely took more chances earlier in his career. Maybe he's losing his edge.Cant make a big play coughing the ball up either
I'm thinking of benching him for way worse players that have juicer matchups.So who's rolling with Rodgers @ Chicago ?
Others options are Mayfield, Allen or Carr.