James Daulton
Footballguy
I loathe torture porn movies. What redeeming qualities do they have?
Anyway, watched The Town That Dreaded Sundown remake. Was enjoyable.
Anyway, watched The Town That Dreaded Sundown remake. Was enjoyable.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I loathe the term torture porn.
ClownCausedChaos2
Footballguy
I certainly don't want to derail this thread, and I understand that those types of movies are just a small sub-genre. I just didn't know if anyone had any insight to their appeal.
The tense, suspenseful horror movies with a plot are great. Even the 80s slasher films are enjoyable. But those...I just don't get. Anyway...sorry guys.
The tense, suspenseful horror movies with a plot are great. Even the 80s slasher films are enjoyable. But those...I just don't get. Anyway...sorry guys.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
What is the redeeming quality of the slasher movie? I would guess most of us were watching them for some boobs and watching teens get offed in various ways. Same could be said about these so called torture porn movies, but the blood is ramped up.
I just think the term has become a way to throw anything that pushes the envelope and ramps up the gore under a lazy, convenient umbrella. Too easy to dismiss something and not think about it that way.
I go to bat for Hostel- it has something to say about human nature. Seven has a similar theme as the Saw movies, but one gets thrown under the "torture porn" label and the other is usually highly regarded. Even something as hard to watch as Martyrs had something more going on than just people getting killed.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
It's rare where a movie will actually be scary or creepy, but there are some out there that will at least make you a little weirded out or a little more scared when doing certain things after watching them.
I might be a little more hesitant to break in and camp out inside an old abandoned mental ward after seeing something like Grave Encounters. Heck I was a little more freaked out about spiders after seeing Arachnophobia.
I can't think of too many at the moment, but here have been a few that while may not have me jumping out of my seat at the time, they do have me think about them when in certain situations and be a little more creeped out. The Shining comes to mind.
...................random thought after just hearing wife say something. Anyone see Nightmares and Dreamscapes, the one with William Hurt and the little toy soldiers??? Awesome.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I guess a question i had to you guys: which movies would you consider to be part of the "torture porn" genre. Maybe we aren't even talking about the same thing.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I feel stupid for never mentioning that movie now.
Absolutely loved it. One of my favorites movies now actually.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
The best horror/comedies are the ones that actually provide both. Both of those you listed are great ones.
James Daulton
Footballguy
I think we're on the same page. Hostel, those centipede movies, drek like that. And 70's slasher movies where a knife is shown being shoved in a chest is a far cry from the extensive, repeated, detailed carnage these horrible films show. Ramped up gore just to show ramped up gore seems weird to me. Boobs to show boobs does not seem odd at all.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Probably the movies with a terrible plot and no point with a bunch of torture and killing.
There are plenty of good movies out there where the gore and torture is over the top.
James Daulton
Footballguy
Here's a good example. CITW had plenty of gore, but it was short cuts and germane to the story and circumstances. Some chick wasn't tied in a chair while some sicko worked her over for a lengthy period of time.
ClownCausedChaos2
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Hostel (the first one) was great I thought.
SO was human centipede. Crazy dude trying to make that thing was pretty interesting IMO.
BTW, thanks for bringing up Human Centipede. Saw both. First one was great IMO, second one was meh.
The little chubby dude was the best casting jobb ever though
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Can someone help me track down a 70's horror movie that I can't remember for the life of me. There are these little sized men who like similar to the Hamburgler and they go around terrorizing a small town. I found it once a few years ago, but haven't been able to track it down again.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Have you seen those movies?
Hostel has what, 4 big kills in it? Lots of nice boobs too. Far from repeated detailed carnage.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Todem
Footballguy
A cult classic. That movie takes me back to high school and when I worked at Camelot music in the mall and I was the video rental manager. I would always have a managers personal selection shelf and Re-Animator was always on it and always rented out. I primarily had horror movies on my managers selections and I always had Rush, Floyd and Yes blaring through the system on my shift LOL. I can't tell you how many hot chicks I wa able to pick up working that job.....it was great times. A few moms also made moves on me....oh my the 80's were so good to me.
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KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Been thinking about this a little bit more today and why it bothers me. I feel little horror fans are on their own little island in a way. Sort of an "us vs. them" mentality. This is a genre that is always dogged on for corrupting people, having no value, etc.. It has always pushed the envelope. I would bet that outsiders viewed stuff like Evil Dead, TCM, I Spit on Your Grave as too much and would have looked at them in the same way that people view or bring up "torture porn" today. Fans defended them and knew there was more to it than that. I think it is a silly term in general, but I guess get more pissy when horror fans use the term or dismiss the movies so quickly. The genre is built on pushing the limits - don't you think some of your favs would be a lot different if they had the ability to do the gore like they can now? I get that it is not for everybody, but I just feel like the fans of the genre would be more tolerant of the different styles. To me, "torture porn" feels like some lame term some grumpy old ##### thought up after seeing one clip of a movie, or something that some lame morning talk show used and generated buzz and views.
Long story short, I think fans of the genre that use the term are at the very least underestimating what some of those movies are about or overestimating what the other movies in the genre they like are about (probably a little of both).
Long story short, I think fans of the genre that use the term are at the very least underestimating what some of those movies are about or overestimating what the other movies in the genre they like are about (probably a little of both).
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I am going to take a guess that none of those hot women were hitting on you when the Rush was blaring. That stuff is ##### kryptonite.
EYLive
Footballguy
Maybe I'm desensitized to gore. I've seen real beheading videos and execution stuff, and I watch MMA on a regular basis. So I feel I know what real violence and death looks like, and the gore/torture in movies do nothing for me.
But on the other hand I've never experienced real demon possessions or hauntings, so I'm fascinated by ghost stories and supernatural/religiously based horror movies.
But on the other hand I've never experienced real demon possessions or hauntings, so I'm fascinated by ghost stories and supernatural/religiously based horror movies.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
KarmaPolice
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cstu
Footballguy
modogg
Footballguy
agreed with that movie. Best for me was i just happened to catch it on SyFy one evening without knowing anything about it. made the movie much more enjoyable
Todem
Footballguy
Caught Insidious 3 a month ago. It was good, but nearly on par with the first two. In fact the first one still ranks as one of the all time scariest horror movies I have ever seen.
I am going to see The Gallows This Saturday night. And then I will be seeing Sinister 2.
Another very interesting and IMO solid horror movie I saw a few months ago was "It Follows". It has a superb retro 80's Carpenter horror feel because the of unknown actors and fantastic soundtrack. I do not want to give away the main plot point. It is far better for you to figure it out by watching it. It will be released shortly (July 16th) on Blue Ray. I highly recommend it.
I am going to see The Gallows This Saturday night. And then I will be seeing Sinister 2.
Another very interesting and IMO solid horror movie I saw a few months ago was "It Follows". It has a superb retro 80's Carpenter horror feel because the of unknown actors and fantastic soundtrack. I do not want to give away the main plot point. It is far better for you to figure it out by watching it. It will be released shortly (July 16th) on Blue Ray. I highly recommend it.
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VA703
Footballguy
it follows was very good. I rewatched it a few times. the soundtrack makes it even better
not a huge fan of indisious but I did like sinister. will have to check that one out
James Daulton
Footballguy
I also enjoyed It Follows. Insidious 3 was pretty good, about on par with 2 but not anywhere near as good as 1 I'd say.
Todem
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
VA703
Footballguy
anyone see the new scream series. I haven't caught a episode yet just heard about it the other day
7.5 on imdb
looks to be plenty of eye candy
7.5 on imdb
looks to be plenty of eye candy
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James Daulton
Footballguy
Todem
Footballguy
Made it through the first two episodes.
Meh.
Teen series of course. It is not must see horror T.V in the least. But yes some great eye candy indeed.
We went and saw The Gallows Saturday night. Meh. 2 stars. Had some genuinely creepy moments and scenes. But overall the story was weak and the acting was pretty bad even for horror standards. I should have waited for cable. Oh well.
Next will be Sinister 2 in late August. That should be a good one.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Per steelers- after some thinking, I enjoyed: legion, the crazies, 30 days of night, 28 days later, the shining. know there's more it just seems like few and far between for me in this genre
All good. Legion is my least favorite there, but still decent. LOVEEEEE 28 days later. Fantastic movie. The sequel 28 weeks later was also very good IMO. Not as good, but very good.
The Shining is ####### great. Timeless classic. Brilliant.
The crazies (both original and remake) was very good.
Josh Hartnett is a toad, but 30 days of night was really good I thought.
All good. Legion is my least favorite there, but still decent. LOVEEEEE 28 days later. Fantastic movie. The sequel 28 weeks later was also very good IMO. Not as good, but very good.
The Shining is ####### great. Timeless classic. Brilliant.
The crazies (both original and remake) was very good.
Josh Hartnett is a toad, but 30 days of night was really good I thought.
steelerfan1
Footballguy
thanks ghost. good move, literally
I like the end of days type thing where a virus or something gets to society. I'm looking forward to the remake of the stand and I wish swan song would be put out as movie as the book was great
ghostguy123
Footballguy
I like the zombie, apocalypse stuff, and starting to realize more and more I tend to prefer the movies like It Follows that revolve around just a few people and their predicaments rather than huge scale stuff.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
And no, those movies were not scary 
They were good though.
They were good though.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Last few years I have seen a lot of the found footage stuff, too. Some real real terrible ones out there, but always nice to come across a good one.
steelerfan1
Footballguy
I'm sure I've watched some of these as well and liked them but few and far to get a good enjoyable 1 for me for some reason.
steelerfan1
Footballguy
agree, not scary but was trying to show that I do enjoy the genre.And no, those movies were not scary
They were good though.
ghostguy123
Footballguy
Maybe people out there think scary movies need to scare you to be good, I dont know. If that was the case though, not too many grown men would like these kinds of movies.agree, not scary but was trying to show that I do enjoy the genre.And no, those movies were not scary
They were good though.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
I think I mentioned it before, but I really dug The Bay. Thought it did a good job of showing what was going on in different ways - cell phones, police cameras, security cameras, etc.. [Rec] is probably my favorite of the genre, but have enjoyed a few others. Like you said, they are very hit or miss. Liked Grave Encounters, a couple of the Paranormal Activity movies. Hated a couple of the other Paranormal Activity movies and the V/H/S movies.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
Agree. There are still movies that scare me though. I will admit that even though I had mixed feelings on It Follows, I did jump a couple times. A couple other movies that I remember getting to me: Rec, The Orphanage, The Ring (in the theater), A Tale of Two Sisters. Mostly I think the foreign movies nail the creepy factor and I usually am more effected by those. I know I am a broken record about this on several fronts, but you know what is NOT scary? CGI ghosts and monsters. That is usually where the American remakes whiff, like in the Grudge movies. The unknown is so much worse than feeling the need to show the "monster". Just let people's imaginations do the work in this genre.Maybe people out there think scary movies need to scare you to be good, I dont know. If that was the case though, not too many grown men would like these kinds of movies.agree, not scary but was trying to show that I do enjoy the genre.And no, those movies were not scary
They were good though.
