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Ok, I'm not expecting to see improvements so early in this, but I also wasn't expecting to see a decrease in performance.

I don't know what to make of it, but my times are getting noticeably slower.  I've run this route I did this morning three times now. It's the least hilly and the temps today were the best conditions I've run in.

7/1 -- 11:30/mile average

7/4 -- 11:38/mile average

7/7 -- 11:49/mile average

That doesn't seem good. I know, small sample, but wtf?

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20 minutes ago, gianmarco said:

Ok, I'm not expecting to see improvements so early in this, but I also wasn't expecting to see a decrease in performance.

I don't know what to make of it, but my times are getting noticeably slower.  I've run this route I did you morning three times now. It's the least hilly and the temps today were the best conditions I've run in.

7/1 -- 11:30/mile average

7/4 -- 11:38/mile average

7/7 -- 11:49/mile average

That doesn't seem good. I know, small sample, but wtf?

I don’t know the science behind all this stuff and trust everyone here. I also know running slower equates to running faster down the road. But, I think you are running way too slow. Sometimes HR doesn’t always equal effort. I’d say bump that avg HR up to stay under 150. GL, GB.

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2 hours ago, gianmarco said:

Ok, I'm not expecting to see improvements so early in this, but I also wasn't expecting to see a decrease in performance.

I don't know what to make of it, but my times are getting noticeably slower.  I've run this route I did you morning three times now. It's the least hilly and the temps today were the best conditions I've run in.

7/1 -- 11:30/mile average

7/4 -- 11:38/mile average

7/7 -- 11:49/mile average

That doesn't seem good. I know, small sample, but wtf?

Small sample, give it 2 more months

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Brief RR

Swim kinda stunk. Got behind 3 bozos who couldn’t sight and didn’t mind banging bodies. They were fast enough for me not to pass but when I tried to draft they were all over the place. First half of the swim was just not fun. 

Bike was good but not good enough. Wanted 20+ got 19.9 :shrug:  It takes me like 40 min to get comfortable on the bike. The first 20 minutes was up hill. Not crazy slope but not nice. It wasn’t fun and I was kinda worried as I don’t really know how to pace on the bike.  Close enough to my goal, but would have loved a 20.4 or something. 

The run came out of no where. First 3 miles were amazing. Faster pace than my Sprint tri 5k distance like a month ago. About mile 4 I was hurting some. Not crazy pain, but uncomfortable. Mile 5.5 I was ready to be done. Ran a 7:35, super stoked. 

Fatigued but ready for more. Fingers crossed Hip Flexor is all set. Shoulder is still fuked but not a problem in the swim, only an issue in str training. 

Very happy with the result

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4 hours ago, gianmarco said:

Ok, I'm not expecting to see improvements so early in this, but I also wasn't expecting to see a decrease in performance.

I don't know what to make of it, but my times are getting noticeably slower.  I've run this route I did you morning three times now. It's the least hilly and the temps today were the best conditions I've run in.

7/1 -- 11:30/mile average

7/4 -- 11:38/mile average

7/7 -- 11:49/mile average

That doesn't seem good. I know, small sample, but wtf?

How many times have you run 36 miles in a week?

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I'm a little drunk right now and my wife is out of town, but the dew point just dropped into the 50's so I feel obligated to go run. 9 year old's can watch 3 year old's, yes?

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5 hours ago, JAA said:

Brief RR

Swim kinda stunk. Got behind 3 bozos who couldn’t sight and didn’t mind banging bodies. They were fast enough for me not to pass but when I tried to draft they were all over the place. First half of the swim was just not fun. 

Bike was good but not good enough. Wanted 20+ got 19.9 :shrug:  It takes me like 40 min to get comfortable on the bike. The first 20 minutes was up hill. Not crazy slope but not nice. It wasn’t fun and I was kinda worried as I don’t really know how to pace on the bike.  Close enough to my goal, but would have loved a 20.4 or something. 

The run came out of no where. First 3 miles were amazing. Faster pace than my Sprint tri 5k distance like a month ago. About mile 4 I was hurting some. Not crazy pain, but uncomfortable. Mile 5.5 I was ready to be done. Ran a 7:35, super stoked. 

Fatigued but ready for more. Fingers crossed Hip Flexor is all set. Shoulder is still fuked but not a problem in the swim, only an issue in str training. 

Very happy with the result

Awesome! 

Great run off the bike!

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@gianmarco I agree with JShare. <140 HR might be too low for you at this point. 

I’ve never been a fan of strict MAF though so I’m a little biased.

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6 hours ago, JAA said:

Brief RR

Swim kinda stunk. Got behind 3 bozos who couldn’t sight and didn’t mind banging bodies. They were fast enough for me not to pass but when I tried to draft they were all over the place. First half of the swim was just not fun. 

Bike was good but not good enough. Wanted 20+ got 19.9 :shrug:  It takes me like 40 min to get comfortable on the bike. The first 20 minutes was up hill. Not crazy slope but not nice. It wasn’t fun and I was kinda worried as I don’t really know how to pace on the bike.  Close enough to my goal, but would have loved a 20.4 or something. 

The run came out of no where. First 3 miles were amazing. Faster pace than my Sprint tri 5k distance like a month ago. About mile 4 I was hurting some. Not crazy pain, but uncomfortable. Mile 5.5 I was ready to be done. Ran a 7:35, super stoked. 

Fatigued but ready for more. Fingers crossed Hip Flexor is all set. Shoulder is still fuked but not a problem in the swim, only an issue in str training. 

Very happy with the result

:hifive: Nice work, especially after the less than enjoyable start! 

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18 hours ago, JAA said:

Brief RR

Swim kinda stunk. Got behind 3 bozos who couldn’t sight and didn’t mind banging bodies. They were fast enough for me not to pass but when I tried to draft they were all over the place. First half of the swim was just not fun. 

Bike was good but not good enough. Wanted 20+ got 19.9 :shrug:  It takes me like 40 min to get comfortable on the bike. The first 20 minutes was up hill. Not crazy slope but not nice. It wasn’t fun and I was kinda worried as I don’t really know how to pace on the bike.  Close enough to my goal, but would have loved a 20.4 or something. 

The run came out of no where. First 3 miles were amazing. Faster pace than my Sprint tri 5k distance like a month ago. About mile 4 I was hurting some. Not crazy pain, but uncomfortable. Mile 5.5 I was ready to be done. Ran a 7:35, super stoked. 

Fatigued but ready for more. Fingers crossed Hip Flexor is all set. Shoulder is still fuked but not a problem in the swim, only an issue in str training. 

Very happy with the result

Congrats!!

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22 hours ago, Brony said:

One of my slowest 5K times, but I did check my 2 boxes of negative split and pint glass (2nd in AG; top 3 get glass).  Surprisingly content - I wasn't setting out to run my fastest ever and my time was reflective of this.    As expected, calf was fine during race and a little inflamed post race.

Seems like a good race, way to go!

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On 7/5/2019 at 9:00 PM, SFBayDuck said:

Mt. Marathon had its 92nd running yesterday in Seward, AK.  The most versatile runner on the planet*, Max King, took the win after finishing 2nd last year.  This event is crazy in many ways in that it’s the most watched sporting event in Alaska, is the oldest mountain race in the country, has no set route, and is basically straight up and straight down a mountain - a 5K race that runs up to 2,091’ and back down again.

The entire event is televised, which is obviously rare in trail running.  It’s worth watching parts of it, I’d suggest the first 8 minutes to get a feel for the race and an early climb, and then skip to about the 20 minute mark to watch the brutal climb to the peak and then the descent.  So crazy. 

*Olympic Trials in marathon and steeplechase, 100K world champion, world trail champion, and has dropped a 4-minute mile. 

So I put this on the TV yesterday to watch.  Amazing how fast these guys can climb and then even more amazing how they go all-in on the downhill.  

My wife was in the room with me and watching the coverage.

@Zasada's wife:  "You've been trail running for a couple years now, I don't understand why don't you have muscles like those guys?"

@Zasada:  :bag: :kicksrock:

 

She said it with the tone/context "you must be frustrated" rather than "I wish you looked like that".  But still, she really knows how to pump a guy up...

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Spent 8+ days in Italy, ate a ton of delicious food and drank all the wine, and still came back within a pound or two of where I left.  I'd call that success.

With high temps in the 90s every single day, had to get up super early to run while temps were "only" in the 60s/70s, but I managed to get out there every day.  Was even able to connect with a local running group and join them on Friday for their morning run. 

More impressive was my 8-day gelato streak.  Even managed a couple of doubles in there.

Got back yesterday afternoon and got out this morning for an easy 7-miler.  Temps in the 50s felt glorious.  Dances with Dirt Devil's Lake half marathon coming up this Saturday.  With over 1,000 feet of elevation gain (including one 500-foot climb), not an easy race for flatlanders like me.  Needed sub-1:38 for top 10 last year, so that's the goal. 

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12 hours ago, Juxtatarot said:

@gianmarco I agree with JShare. <140 HR might be too low for you at this point. 

I’ve never been a fan of strict MAF though so I’m a little biased.

The concept is spot on imo. But you're right that sometimes people need to adjust to get the full benefit.

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39 minutes ago, gruecd said:

 

Got back yesterday afternoon and got out this morning for an easy 7-miler.  Temps in the 50s felt glorious.  Dances with Dirt Devil's Lake half marathon coming up this Saturday.  With over 1,000 feet of elevation gain (including one 500-foot climb), not an easy race for flatlanders like me.  Needed sub-1:38 for top 10 last year, so that's the goal. 

I've hiked those hills at Devil's Lake.  That's gonna be helluva workout. 

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3 hours ago, Brony said:

I've hiked those hills at Devil's Lake.  That's gonna be helluva workout. 

Yeah, I've done the race 2-3 times before, and I've never done well.  But I'll be going into this one in better shape than for any of my previous attempts, so we'll see...

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I'm really starting to kind of like this heat running thing... sucks on one hand but I swear I feel myself getting stronger daily because of it. I know it's mostly a mental thing but I don't care. First mile was about 8:40 then blew threw 2-5 all at just under 8 min/mile and felt great mostly* doing it.

* Only part that really sucked was about a mile stretch at the end of mile 4 and beginning of mile 5 that had the wind at my back and was on asphalt that was just emanating heat that was straight from Hades itself!

Find myself anxiously awaiting Saturdays for the long runs... 

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11 minutes ago, The Iguana said:

I'm really starting to kind of like this heat running thing... sucks on one hand but I swear I feel myself getting stronger daily because of it. I know it's mostly a mental thing but I don't care. First mile was about 8:40 then blew threw 2-5 all at just under 8 min/mile and felt great mostly* doing it.

* Only part that really sucked was about a mile stretch at the end of mile 4 and beginning of mile 5 that had the wind at my back and was on asphalt that was just emanating heat that was straight from Hades itself!

Find myself anxiously awaiting Saturdays for the long runs... 

I'm back to enjoying the heat as well.  It takes a little to get used to it but now I don't mind.  I ##### about it, but overall it's a good feeling to sweat out there.

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11 minutes ago, The Iguana said:

I'm really starting to kind of like this heat running thing... sucks on one hand but I swear I feel myself getting stronger daily because of it. I know it's mostly a mental thing but I don't care. First mile was about 8:40 then blew threw 2-5 all at just under 8 min/mile and felt great mostly* doing it.

* Only part that really sucked was about a mile stretch at the end of mile 4 and beginning of mile 5 that had the wind at my back and was on asphalt that was just emanating heat that was straight from Hades itself!

Find myself anxiously awaiting Saturdays for the long runs... 

Enjoy it now. That enthusiasm will wane by week 10.

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3 minutes ago, ChiefD said:

Enjoy it now. That enthusiasm will wane by week 10.

shush. I'm trying not to think about that. I'm still in the giddy stage... if I think too hard about what's coming up I start to gianmarco err... I mean overthink it too much! 

;) 

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1 hour ago, gianmarco said:

I'm back to enjoying the heat as well.  It takes a little to get used to it but now I don't mind.  I ##### about it, but overall it's a good feeling to sweat out there.

Glad you guys are finally coming over to the dark side. Now we just got to convert @gruecd.

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26 minutes ago, JShare87 said:

Glad you guys are finally coming over to the dark side. Now we just got to convert @gruecd.

Good luck with that...

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7 minutes ago, gruecd said:

Good luck with that...

I was converted to liking, or at least appreciating, the cold... anything is possible!

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On 7/5/2019 at 11:00 PM, SFBayDuck said:

Mt. Marathon had its 92nd running yesterday in Seward, AK.  The most versatile runner on the planet*, Max King, took the win after finishing 2nd last year.  This event is crazy in many ways in that it’s the most watched sporting event in Alaska, is the oldest mountain race in the country, has no set route, and is basically straight up and straight down a mountain - a 5K race that runs up to 2,091’ and back down again.

The entire event is televised, which is obviously rare in trail running.  It’s worth watching parts of it, I’d suggest the first 8 minutes to get a feel for the race and an early climb, and then skip to about the 20 minute mark to watch the brutal climb to the peak and then the descent.  So crazy. 

*Olympic Trials in marathon and steeplechase, 100K world champion, world trail champion, and has dropped a 4-minute mile. 

The video of this descent looks like CGI,  Wow

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4 minutes ago, bushdocda said:

The video of this descent looks like CGI,  Wow

Further up the mountain when they're running down the scree is even crazier.  

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2 hours ago, gianmarco said:

I'm back to enjoying the heat as well.  It takes a little to get used to it but now I don't mind.  I ##### about it, but overall it's a good feeling to sweat out there.

Yeah, I don't know that I'd choose 90° with 90% humidity, but it has its benefits. 

If you don't mind the stink.

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2 minutes ago, Zasada said:

Further up the mountain when they're running down the scree is even crazier.  

Freaking nuts. I ate it at least thrice last summer on a tame trail half with rocks that grab human feet. 

That race reminds me of the one in Europe where people chase the wheel of cheese down the hill.  

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I finally gave in and I'm calling the vivoactive dead. It records again after not recording this weekend but the Bluetooth is out again.

So I bought a decent rated value watch, https://smile.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0749Y2WD8/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1 SUUNTO Spartan Trainer Wrist HR. 

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@gianmarco - can't remember - are you training for a fall half. I'm looking for one that is relatively flat and close. 

The two here in KC are not ideal, but one of them is that beeeeyitch race that beat me a year and a half-ago. With this year going so well I might need to conquer that one to complete my trifecta.

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23 minutes ago, bushdocda said:

The video of this descent looks like CGI,  Wow

The cliff they dont show at about the 10 second mark is why I'd probably never consider doing this. That's where the worst injuries usually happen. 

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2 minutes ago, ChiefD said:

@gianmarco - can't remember - are you training for a fall half. I'm looking for one that is relatively flat and close. 

The two here in KC are not ideal, but one of them is that beeeeyitch race that beat me a year and a half-ago. With this year going so well I might need to conquer that one to complete my trifecta.

I had earmarked the HM where I did my only one last year and struggled.  But I haven't signed up and have 99% decided against it.  I'm only signed up for a 15K in late November (Hot Chocolate) that @gruecd might come do as well. 

There are 2 big HMs here in the fall.  The Cowbell which is in early October (the one I did last year and my wife has done a few years) and the Go! Halloween on 10/20 that my wife is racing.  That will be her first time doing that race.  Hopefully those extra couple weeks bring better temps.  That's the plan.  I MIGHT do that race depending on how things go, but not likely.

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16 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

Yeah, I don't know that I'd choose 90° with 90% humidity, but it has its benefits. 

If you don't mind the stink.

I'd like to identify my suck index breaking point this summer. If I have to anyway. I know I can tolerate 160+ but not sure how far into it. Looking like Wednesday may be my first test.

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Got some new running shorts this weekend. Same size as my previous Nike Dri-Fit. A little more snug than my other pair.

:oldunsure:

 

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Just now, ChiefD said:

Got some new running shorts this weekend. Same size as my previous Nike Dri-Fit. A little more snug than my other pair.

:oldunsure:

 

"Look at me!!!  My wife gave me my balls back"

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1 hour ago, MAC_32 said:

I'd like to identify my suck index breaking point this summer. If I have to anyway. I know I can tolerate 160+ but not sure how far into it. Looking like Wednesday may be my first test.

157 here today. Supposed to get hotter toward the end of the week. I did lose 2 pounds on the run today though.

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9 minutes ago, ChiefD said:

157 here today. Supposed to get hotter toward the end of the week. I did lose 2 pounds on the run today though.

93/74/167 here now.

But I just started my new schedule, 800-1730, I'll be doing my workouts before 7. 

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3 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

93/74/167 here now.

But I just started my new schedule, 800-1730, I'll be doing my workouts before 7. 

Oof.

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27 minutes ago, tri-man 47 said:

BMF

I am from Detroit but I'm not supposed to talk about that. 

I get every other Monday off. 

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2 hours ago, ChiefD said:

@gianmarco - can't remember - are you training for a fall half. I'm looking for one that is relatively flat and close. 

The two here in KC are not ideal, but one of them is that beeeeyitch race that beat me a year and a half-ago. With this year going so well I might need to conquer that one to complete my trifecta.

4 words...

Mon you men tall

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44 minutes ago, -OZ- said:

93/74/167 here now.

But I just started my new schedule, 800-1730, I'll be doing my workouts before 7. 

Had 89/77/166 a few days ago.  I was sweating a little.

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1 minute ago, gianmarco said:

Had 89/77/166 a few days ago.  I was sweating a little.

Probably only lost 26 pounds that day.

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7 minutes ago, ChiefD said:

Probably only lost 26 pounds that day.

Almost. I drank a ridiculous amount of water when I got back and was still down 5 pounds when I went to shower.

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Went to a running store on the way to poker tonight and had them analyze my gate and such... had them tell me what I thought I knew but nice to also get some expert info on shoes that match my running. 

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1 hour ago, The Iguana said:

4 words...

Mon you men tall

That’s not actually a bad idea. I could run the half and cheer you on for the end of your half. Heck, I could run with you the first half if you wanted.

Let me think about that.

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3 minutes ago, ChiefD said:

That’s not actually a bad idea. I could run the half and cheer you on for the end of your half. Heck, I could run with you the first half if you wanted.

Let me think about that.

That would be fun but technically we could only run the first 7 miles or so before the course splits. 

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I think the SI was around 160 when I got out - did 3.7 miles with just a shade over 1,000 ft of elevation.  

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