Dynasty and Redraft: David Johnson RB Arizona Cardinals

[Fireballer 42]

...nuff said. This feels like having Tomlinson on your team back in the day.

Edited November 13, 2016 by Fireballer

[Mister CIA 6,488]

THE   #1 player in FF. Would take him over any WR in a PPR league.

[Milkman 1,626]

If not for a PI in the endzone he'd have a second receiving TD today........

[Milkman 1,626]

That fumble is all on Palmer. DJ was open in the flat and he is trying to get fancy. Inside the 10 you give the ball to the freak and let him do what he does.

[Hu-Tang Clan 356]

How is he not at 100 rushing already against the 9ers D?

[Fireballer 42]

Arians gonna keep ####in around and lose this game!  

[Hankmoody 3,169]

1 hour ago, Mister CIA said:

THE   #1 player in FF. Would take him over any WR in a PPR league.

Ezekiel Elliott would like a word with you.

[Mister CIA 6,488]

19 minutes ago, Hankmoody said:

Ezekiel Elliott would like a word with you.

Touche.       << missing odd font.

 

[Shutout 1,723]

24 minutes ago, Hankmoody said:

Ezekiel Elliott would like a word with you.

The edifferencediscuss Arians doesn't know when he should be running the ball.  Could have cost the cardinals a win today.  DJ would have easily had 10 or so more ff point to today had the cardinals employed some conventional logic.  

Just one of those days but as unusual and unlikely to be repeated as it was, there is no doubt there are about 3-4 awesome young rbs in the league at the same time and, sadly, Gurley is not among them (HE is a great talent but it will go wasted in LA at this point). 

[rickyg 832]

14 minutes ago, Shutout said:

The edifferencediscuss Arians doesn't know when he should be running the ball.  Could have cost the cardinals a win today.  DJ would have easily had 10 or so more ff point to today had the cardinals employed some conventional logic.  

Just one of those days but as unusual and unlikely to be repeated as it was, there is no doubt there are about 3-4 awesome young rbs in the league at the same time and, sadly, Gurley is not among them (HE is a great talent but it will go wasted in LA at this point). 

I'm not so sure about gurley being one of them.  I know he's a high RD draft pick.  I know what he did in college, and I know what he did last year on a bad team (at times).  

I know that everyone is saying it's BC the Rams are bad.  But honestly the Rams pass offense is respectable these days.  It has been for over a month.  The o line is bad and has trouble run blocking, but there are rbs that can transcend that.  Gurley clearly isn't.  I think it's possible he might be overrated.  

Edited November 14, 2016 by rickyg

[shadyridr 13,486]

16 minutes ago, Shutout said:

The edifferencediscuss Arians doesn't know when he should be running the ball.  Could have cost the cardinals a win today.  DJ would have easily had 10 or so more ff point to today had the cardinals employed some conventional logic.  

Just one of those days but as unusual and unlikely to be repeated as it was, there is no doubt there are about 3-4 awesome young rbs in the league at the same time and, sadly, Gurley is not among them (HE is a great talent but it will go wasted in LA at this point). 

I dunno. The cardinals had no success running the ball today. Johnson hit in the backfield a ton. Meanwhile they moved the ball at all in the air. Not the coaches fault.

[Shutout 1,723]

11 minutes ago, rickyg said:

I'm not so sure about gurley being one of them.  I know he's a high RD draft pick.  I know what he did in college, and I know what he did last year on a bad team (at times).  

I know that everyone is saying it's BC the Rams are bad.  But honestly the Rams pass offense is respectable these days.  It has been for over a month.  The o line is bad and has trouble run blocking, but there are rbs that can transcend that.  Gurley clearly isn't.  I think it's possible he might be overrated.  

Good points.  

[Shutout 1,723]

5 minutes ago, shadyridr said:

I dunno. The cardinals had no success running the ball today. Johnson hit in the backfield a ton. Meanwhile they moved the ball at all in the air. Not the coaches fault.

Just my opinion but everyone runs on the Niners and the cards did too so I think that HAS to be on the coach.  There were just so many times in that game where they should have run and stayed with it and they paid for it when they didn't with turnovers.  

Run defense is a legit weakness of the Niners and the cards should have been able to leverage that.  Just my opinion but I think it's reasonable. 

[Milkman 1,626]

Gurley and DJ are both great players. One is on a good offense and one is on a bad offense. It's not any more complicated than that.

[shadyridr 13,486]

3 minutes ago, Shutout said:

Just my opinion but everyone runs on the Niners and the cards did too so I think that HAS to be on the coach.  There were just so many times in that game where they should have run and stayed with it and they paid for it when they didn't with turnovers.  

Run defense is a legit weakness of the Niners and the cards should have been able to leverage that.  Just my opinion but I think it's reasonable. 

It's the worst run defense in the league but for whatever reason there was no running room today. He had 19 carries

[Bracie Smathers 1,563]

cott Barrett ‏@ScottBarrettDFB  8h8 hours ago

Over the last 3 weeks, all of Jordan Howard, Theo Riddick, and Rob Kelley have hit their career-highs in rushing yardage against Minnesota.

Scott Barrett ‏@ScottBarrettDFB  8h8 hours ago

Scott Barrett Retweeted Scott Barrett

David Johnson this week

[Hot Sauce Guy 6,126]

1 hour ago, Bracie Smathers said:

cott Barrett ‏@ScottBarrettDFB  8h8 hours ago

Over the last 3 weeks, all of Jordan Howard, Theo Riddick, and Rob Kelley have hit their career-highs in rushing yardage against Minnesota.

Scott Barrett ‏@ScottBarrettDFB  8h8 hours ago

Scott Barrett Retweeted Scott Barrett

David Johnson this week

 

[Long Ball Larry 11,404]

So you're saying I should start dj this week?

[Hot Sauce Guy 6,126]

4 minutes ago, Long Ball Larry said:

So you're saying I should start dj this week?

Unless you've got better options?

 

Edited November 19, 2016 by Hot Sauce Guy

[Tidehigh 27]

do those guys even have careers?  lol

[Run It Up 914]

On Sunday, November 13, 2016 at 7:21 PM, Milkman said:

Gurley and DJ are both great players. One is on a good offense and one is on a bad offense. It's not any more complicated than that.

Perfect 

[Dan Lambskin 11,738]

Starting to think this kid could be legit

[BigBlue_RI 147]

I cannot believe I even considered Gurley over this guy for a second when I learned I draw the #1 pick. Has saved my team from sure defeat a few times. I am little concerned on the O-line injury issues.

[kutta 4,408]

23 minutes ago, BigBlue_RI said:

I cannot believe I even considered Gurley over this guy for a second when I learned I draw the #1 pick. Has saved my team from sure defeat a few times. I am little concerned on the O-line injury issues.

The good thing about the o-line debacle is that Palmer is having no time to throw and is constantly checking down to DJ. I think he'll be fine the rest of the way.

[dansav 33]

Gun to head start up dynasty league #1 RB...  who you building your team around....

Johnson

Elliot

Bell

 

[Bayhawks 2,190]

4 minutes ago, dansav said:

Gun to head start up dynasty league #1 RB...  who you building your team around....

Johnson

Elliot

Bell

 

Elliott; and I own both Johnson & Bell in a keeper league, but I'd take Elliott over either one.

Dallas o-line tips the scale for me.  Neither Pitt's or 'Zona's line are as impressive.

[Hankmoody 3,169]

Elliott by a mile.  Much better line and a QB that's just getting his career going.  Plus Elliott is over 3 years younger than Johnson.

[RenegadeRoy 185]

Johnson owner and I say Elliot, easily. Better O-line, young and impressive QB, with other solid offensive weapons. Arizona looks like it could be potentially entering a dark age in the coming years (mediocre to bad O-line and QB questions).

[Run It Up 914]

DJ owner, and I say you can have Gurley AND Zeke, ill take DJ.

[Hot Sauce Guy 6,126]

My mancrush grows stronger every week. 

[kutta 4,408]

He got hosed out of that early td or he could have had an even bigger game.

[Judge Smails 2,643]

Have most points in the league, wanted Zeke at #5, he went #3, chose Lamar Miller over Johnson.  One of the bigger blunders in my FF career.  Killed me today with that last catch over 100.

[Andrew74 892]

So is anyone worried about him dynasty-wise if this is Palmer and Fitz's last year?  Or can he not be Gurley'd?

[Milkman 1,626]

If he's in on 3rd downs he'll be a RB1 no matter what and it would be crazy to not throw him the ball. He's like the best pass catching back in the league. 

[Run It Up 914]

PFF tweeted out their top 5 backs in terms of forced missed tackles.

1. David Johnson at 59

2nd was Demarco with 43, 3rd and 4th were at 41 and 5th was 39.

Practically 20 more than the next four.

[Milkman 1,626]

7 minutes ago, Run It Up said:

PFF tweeted out their top 5 backs in terms of forced missed tackles.

1. David Johnson at 59

2nd was Demarco with 43, 3rd and 4th were at 41 and 5th was 39.

Practically 20 more than the next four.

LeVeon has got to be close or better on a per game basis but DJ is right there. 

[Hot Sauce Guy 6,126]

I haven't thrown DJ a  in a while.

he's still my boo, and makes my pickle dance. 

[kutta 4,408]

The best thing is being a Cardinals fan and owning him in 3 out of 4 leagues. It's so fun watching him in FF and cheering for him in real life. I just hope he keeps this up for a few more years.

[msudaisy26 5,327]

2 hours ago, Andrew74 said:

So is anyone worried about him dynasty-wise if this is Palmer and Fitz's last year?  Or can he not be Gurley'd?

Anyone can be Gurley'd, but are you really going to sell him because you are trying to predict the future of Cardinals? Maybe they go get Romo, or draft their version of Dak. It is usually a losing strategy in dynasty leagues to trade super talented players because of what might happen.

Look at what happened if someone sold Fitzgerald because Warner retired. 

[Hot Sauce Guy 6,126]

2 hours ago, Andrew74 said:

So is anyone worried about him dynasty-wise if this is Palmer and Fitz's last year?  Or can he not be Gurley'd?

No one they draft or pick up via FA can possibly be worse than Palmer has been this year. 

[Arodin 2,931]

9 hours ago, Hot Sauce Guy said:

No one they draft or pick up via FA can possibly be worse than Palmer has been this year. 

People thought that about Manning in Denver last year, yet they came frighteningly close to rolling into the season with Brock Osweiler...  Just sayin'.

[Fireballer 42]

This dude is just money!

[rickyg 832]

Looks like he's being underutilized again though.  

[humpback 888]

There's touch #17 in the first half....

[Milkman 1,626]

6 minutes ago, rickyg said:

Looks like he's being underutilized again though.  

I'm not sure what you mean by this but Arizona is riding him and he's on his way to a 30 point game.

[humpback 888]

Just so frigging good.

[Fireballer 42]

Oh man that was pretty.  Sick 13 yd run a few plays ago too.

[Milkman 1,626]

He's the best PPR RB in FF.

[thehornet 40]

5 minutes ago, Milkman said:

He's the best PPR RB in FF.

He's the best player in fantasy right now. Period. 

[Otis 10,267]

We haven't had this automatic a stud at the position since the days of Priest and LT2.