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Dynasty and Redraft: David Johnson Saints (2 Viewers)
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The Frankman
Footballguy
Now that they're free of BOB their sched isn't that scary that they couldn't win 5 of their next 6 or 7.
They're 2-6 and barely beat a Jake Luton led Jags team last week, which is the only team they've beaten so far this year. Currently 14th out of 16 teams in the AFC playoff standings, just lost their starting RB, and their schedule is far from easy the rest of the way- they aren't making the playoffs.
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djmich
Footballguy
Dude is constantly injured and heals incredibly poorly/slowly, what RB ever lost their extra gear after injuring their wrist?
ahartig
Footballguy
I dunno, he could be hot garbage, this is his schedule once he returns:
IND
CHI
IND
CIN
YIKES..... that is a brutal 3 game stretch.....CIN should be fine, but that is week 16
Stat Correction
Footballguy
Volume-based low-end/middling RB2 ROS imho.
Worth a roster spot? Absolutely.
Worth a roster spot? Absolutely.
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Dropped in my league. Looks like there's a good chance he's back.
DJ rank above the usual suspects at RB this week on the wire such Akers, B. Hill and other hot garbage?
DAVID JOHNSONRB, HOUSTON TEXANS
David Johnson (concussion, injured reserve) is eligible to return for Week 13 against the Colts.
Interim coach Romeo Crennel is apparently "hopeful" it will happen. It is not a guarantee we will get an update Wednesday, as the Texans do not have to list the practice status for players who are on injured reserve. We should get word from the assembled media, however, on whether or not Johnson takes part. Duke Johnson has failed to run with starting duties during David's absence. David would be returning to low-end RB2 status.
SOURCE: The Athletic
Dec 1, 2020, 5:55 PM ET
DJ rank above the usual suspects at RB this week on the wire such Akers, B. Hill and other hot garbage?
DAVID JOHNSONRB, HOUSTON TEXANS
David Johnson (concussion, injured reserve) is eligible to return for Week 13 against the Colts.
Interim coach Romeo Crennel is apparently "hopeful" it will happen. It is not a guarantee we will get an update Wednesday, as the Texans do not have to list the practice status for players who are on injured reserve. We should get word from the assembled media, however, on whether or not Johnson takes part. Duke Johnson has failed to run with starting duties during David's absence. David would be returning to low-end RB2 status.
SOURCE: The Athletic
Dec 1, 2020, 5:55 PM ET
zamboni
Footballguy
Looks like he’s being activated for tomorrow:
https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/1335270551326167042?s=20
https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/status/1335270551326167042?s=20
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Just put on the COVID list.
Faust
MVP
Peak
Footballguy
I hear this, but I have to think he'll be ready to go. Very rested, and a good pass-catcher out of the backfield. I would expect DJ to be a nice outlet for Watson to help control the pass-rush. What am I missing here? Is Buckner still out for IND? That could open up some running lanes.
Even two weeks ago when they played IND without DJ, it was a 20-26 ball game. I don't understand the "pass-heavy" comment. They were pass-heavy last week mainly b/c Duke couldn't run the ball. They also had one WR and a bunch of JAGs helping him. If Cooks is back and DJ at 100%, I'd think this would be a better game this week.
Even two weeks ago when they played IND without DJ, it was a 20-26 ball game. I don't understand the "pass-heavy" comment. They were pass-heavy last week mainly b/c Duke couldn't run the ball. They also had one WR and a bunch of JAGs helping him. If Cooks is back and DJ at 100%, I'd think this would be a better game this week.
zamboni
Footballguy
What is baffling is that despite DJ's pass-catching prowess, they don't use him that much in the passing game. Seems like they use Duke more there.
They were pass heavy in that game vs. Indy 2 weeks ago as well, Watson had 38 pass attempts vs. 19 team rushing attempts (10 from DJ, 7 from Watson). Yes, DJ is a very good pass catcher, but they don't really utilize him much for whatever reason (0 catches on 2 targets in that game).
Yenrub
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
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Down Under
Footballguy
I wouldn't say that. Time-sharing position, sure, since very few teams have one bellcow. But he'll likely get a strong role somewhere.
zamboni
Footballguy
Fair point - he could settle into an RBBC situation for the rest of his career, but seems clear his bellcow days are a thing of the past.
The Frankman
Footballguy
Truebluey
Footballguy
barackdhouse
Footballguy
echo that. nobody wants him so he will likely be super cheap and could be productive for a zero RB squad, or as depth in general.
The Frankman
Footballguy
The signing of Mark Ingram destroys any sleeper RB2 value Johnson was holding onto. Now with DeShaun Watson not being around a fait accompli. if Texans somehow manage to get a good QB back being a 1A in a committee should bury him in the 6th round at best.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
As an Ingram dynasty owner who’s been able to squeeze value out of him looooong past his expiration date, this is about the best possible landing spot. Behind an oft-injured DaJohnson.
I’d humbly suggest the one with sleeper value here is Ingram since he can be had in the last round of a redraft & has a great chance at a starting role for x # of games.
They kept Kelly as OC to call plays for the offense, so honestly Ingram is a much better fit for that offense than DaJohnson ever was. BOB's offense which is what Kelly still runs is a between the tackles, ground and pound as far as the RB goes. Even when he was young DJ was a phenomenal receiver but a below avg between the tackles runner. Trading for DaJohnson was and still is a bizarre fit for the Texans.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
I gotta think DJ is going to fall much further than that unless they turn Watson into a haul and make some smart moves. I'll take the under for now. I did a best ball last week he went 8.01 so with Ingram there I imagine he falls to like the 10th. I might very well take him there in drafts where I need RBs. And then hope I never start him.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Not just that they traded for him, but somehow thought he’d be better for the team/offense than Hopkins. Especially when RBs can be had so inexpensively. If they kept Hopkins & traded picks to Baltimore for a Mark Ingram they weren’t using, I’d be willing to bet their RB production would have been as good or better than it was with DaJohnson.
Honestly that trade would get laughed off of the “what’s the worst dynasty trade you’ve ever been offered” topic, and that’s magical foozeball! A real life GM made that deal and I-
kutta
Footballguy
But, but, but - you forgot to mention that they got a second round pick too!!Not just that they traded for him, but somehow thought he’d be better for the team/offense than Hopkins. Especially when RBs can be had so inexpensively. If they kept Hopkins & traded picks to Baltimore for a Mark Ingram they weren’t using, I’d be willing to bet their RB production would have been as good or better than it was with DaJohnson.
Honestly that trade would get laughed off of the “what’s the worst dynasty trade you’ve ever been offered” topic, and that’s magical foozeball! A real life GM made that deal and I-
The Hopkins part was so self-evident I didn’t think it was worth mentioning again. They’ve been rightfully butchered for it but I guess you’re right, they should continue to be until Easterby is gone.Hot Sauce Guy said:Not just that they traded for him, but somehow thought he’d be better for the team/offense than Hopkins. Especially when RBs can be had so inexpensively. If they kept Hopkins & traded picks to Baltimore for a Mark Ingram they weren’t using, I’d be willing to bet their RB production would have been as good or better than it was with DaJohnson.
Honestly that trade would get laughed off of the “what’s the worst dynasty trade you’ve ever been offered” topic, and that’s magical foozeball! A real life GM made that deal and I-
Edit: it’s such a bizarre trade. It’s like Arizona said “oh well, we’ll take that guy Hopkins you don’t like, but you’ll have to take this way overpaid RB that doesn’t fit your scheme at all off our hands too.” And BOB was like “OK!”
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
Especially when you consider they already had Duke Johnson and didnt want to use him either.Buckna said:
zamboni
Footballguy
Translation: “I know I’m on the back nine of my career, so when I get overtaken this lets me save some face.”
Neither of those guys are 75% of Johnson when he's healthy, and Ingram is two years older.
zamboni
Footballguy
Granted, DJ played well down the stretch but I see Lindsay taking over the backfield at some point. Ingram is indeed probably running even more on fumes at this point.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Heard a podcast this week that described the Texans 2021 backfield as populated by the old (Ingram), the tired (DJ), the decrepit (Burkhead) and the worthless (Lindsey.)
About the only debate is whether they’re the worst RB group in the league, but looking the Jets roster, probably not.
About the only debate is whether they’re the worst RB group in the league, but looking the Jets roster, probably not.
Not even close to the worst in the NFL. At least 5 teams are worse.
Johnson was quietly pretty solid last year, and is likely the centerpiece of the offense if Watson is gone/suspended. He's a useful RB3 in my opinion. I doubt Ingram and Burkhead are real threats preventing Johnson from 200+ touches. Maybe Lindsay is, but he's somewhat proven he wears down pretty quickly, and is best used as a change of pace.
