northern exposure
Footballguy
Before you write off JJSS in the top dog role, remember who the Steelers had at QB last season. I'd wait and see what he does when Big Ben is back.
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What draft pick is Mahomes worth in a 1 QB ppr 2 flex league?
ffmail4me
Footballguy
Very true and fair statement. Its why I'm so excited about Diontae Johnson this year as well
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Terpman22
Footballguy
Thinking about moving Zeke/rebuilding my last league I haven't drafted yet. Had already traded away Mostert for what is now 2 late 3's (which are pretty valuable this year), and just Mack and lol Carlos Hyde. Drafting 1.6, have all my picks just only have 3 really good pieces in Zeke, Parker, and Ertz. Zeke is just SO PRODUCTIVE, but has like a millions touches already too. Is Something like Miles or Singletary a 1 this year a 1 next year too much?
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
If I was you I would wait to move Zeke, there's a chance he'll be the #1 running back in the league this year especially with the addition of Lamb. Teams can no longer put 8 in the box and Zeke is going to eat all day long. I have Zeke and I'm going to wait until after next season as I'm beating I could get top 3 pick and then some.
Tex
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Gotta start by saying that Sanders and Singletary are nowhere close to each other in value so don't start there!
I was offered the 1.12 in one league for Hunt and passed. There are some WRs I like going in that range but I still much prefer Hunt to them.
In another league I tried to buy and was told they wouldn't have even taken my 1.7 pick for him straight up.
Terpman22
Footballguy
Haha well, just looking explicitly at who truly might be available as just not everyone will dump a ton of value on Zeke just to have him, but I feel ya there. I personally have Miles a bit higher than Singletary.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
IF, IF, IF the Cowboys are smart enough to utilize him properly. I honestly think they made a mistake throwing so much last year...that team was built from the line and run game first...yes its great Dak has really matured and showed to be a good QB...and they are improving their WRs every year...but I think its to the detriment of the team to get pass happy and not control the clock and game with Zeke. But then again, I'm a Redskin fan and don't mind if they continually underachieve
rockaction
Footballguy
Hunt might now officially be overvalued.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Wait you aren't asking if Sanders is too much for EZE are you? Or if Singletary and a 1 are too much?
Terpman22
Footballguy
No, I should clarify as my wording is not clear. Hypothetically speaking a 1st round pick this year + a 2021 1st + a RB like Sanders or Singletary.
Just completed a trade with this same team (Ertz/Parker for 1.7+2.9+2.12) so the time is nigh. Cannot move Zeke without a RB or top 3/4 included in a deal at this point.
Milkman
Footballguy
He wasn't a month ago. Think he gets a good starting gig next year and he's a sneaky RB2 this year. He's good man.
rockaction
Footballguy
Nope. You're right. He's good. There's no doubt. See further up the thread for my thoughts, anyway. He was about a high second-rounder a month ago. Now you have to break the bank.
rockaction
Footballguy
I meant early second-round. Like 2.01 or 2.02 or .03. Probably not "high" as you understood it. He's still valued at next year's 2.01 per Roto Underworld's Trade Dominator. That's the market rate for him. Maybe the owners in all our Hunt leagues are just savvy fellows.
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EBF
Footballguy
Here's one for you guys:
What's Ingram's rookie pick value in a PPR? We have only one mandatory RB slot, but lots of flex spots.
Dobbins fell to me at 1.05 in the rookie draft and I'd like to lock up the backfield if I can do it for cheap, but I also don't want to give up a decent pick for a 30 year old RB in what looks like a committee. I liked Ingram a lot for last year's redraft leagues, but it's a very different landscape now after the Dobbins pick and it feels like buying him now might be dumping assets for an unusable FF RB3 who gets you 8-12 ppg and makes no difference in the W-L column.
What's Ingram's rookie pick value in a PPR? We have only one mandatory RB slot, but lots of flex spots.
Dobbins fell to me at 1.05 in the rookie draft and I'd like to lock up the backfield if I can do it for cheap, but I also don't want to give up a decent pick for a 30 year old RB in what looks like a committee. I liked Ingram a lot for last year's redraft leagues, but it's a very different landscape now after the Dobbins pick and it feels like buying him now might be dumping assets for an unusable FF RB3 who gets you 8-12 ppg and makes no difference in the W-L column.
rockaction
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Mid 2nd imo.
Zyphros
Footballguy
I try my best to never pay premium picks for devalued assets. Ingram is the "young" Frank Gore. His legs seem fresh even though he's 30 and he goes to clog up backfields now in his career. I have him in between Ke'Shawn Vaughn and Zack Moss in my dynasty rankings, which is the same as a mid-late 2nd. If I owned him, I probably want an early 2nd unless I need him for the year, then I probably want more. If you're just cashing out to get whatever you can, any 2nd and I'd do it. Might even do it for a 3rd and a deep devalued guy like Isabella or something depending on the player.
EBF
Footballguy
Consensus seems to be mid 2nd, but early 3rd feels right to me as well.
Seems disrespectful to Ingram, but most of his career is burned at this point, Lamar was already a vulture, and now there's Dobbins too.
Just seems like a really small pie for him moving forward.
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fruity pebbles
Footballguy
joey
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Ok well to start off with there's a WORLD of difference between Miles Sanders and Singletary. I'm not looking to move EZE at all but I would probably do it for Sanders + a couple firsts depending on the 100% absolute randomness that predicting future 1st rounders is. I wouldn't consider Singletary plus two 1sts unless this year's was 1.01 - 1.04 and even that's unlikely.
Hankmoody
Footballguy
I offered my 2021 1st in a 16 man league. I'm loaded and have won the last two years so good chance it's a last-4 pick so it feels a lot more like giving up an early 2nd. I'd happily give any 2nd round pick for him. He looked the part and his QB should be better. They brought no one in to take reps.
I have him in several leagues and unless I was depending on him with a contending roster, which seems contradictory, id take any future 1st. I like him as a player but don't see him ever becoming even a high end WR2. More like a 200 point ppr guy, which in FFPC format types is basically a dime a dozen.joey said:
FWIW, I think Slayton is a good comp for Ruggs. The rook is a notch faster but there are a lot of similarities.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I tried to get a 2nd from just about every team in two different leagues to no avail.joey said:
Best I did was trading him for Zack Moss post-draft in a PPR.
No, he's not worth a 1st.
RC94
Footballguy
Slayton has too much upside to trade for anything less than a future 1st IMO. He's young, has a promising and upcoming QB, has already played well in the NFL, and has a lot of upside. I don't see the point to trading a player like that at all, so I would have to get a future 1st otherwise I would rather keep him.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
RC94
Footballguy
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Slayton had two 100 yard games and only three games with 5+ catches. Very TD dependent.
He just looks like a very boom or bust type - which could have a place depending on your roster.
He's a fun NFL player but likely a frustrating FFB one.
He just looks like a very boom or bust type - which could have a place depending on your roster.
He's a fun NFL player but likely a frustrating FFB one.
joey
Footballguy
And he sure didn’t get a 1st for him from me either.
Our trade didn’t go thru since I saw Slayton as more of a dart throw and wasnt the focus of the trade and he thought I was massively lowballing him.
is it also worth noting that Slayton only turned it on a bit after both Tate and Sheppard were dinged up? (read that somewhere but don’t follow the giants so don’t know if that’s totally true)
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Two QBs, what’s their current value in a superflex no-cap dynasty league?
1. Derrick Carr
Pick #?
player _____________?
2 Jameis Winston
Pick #?
player _____________?
1. Derrick Carr
Pick #?
player _____________?
2 Jameis Winston
Pick #?
player _____________?
lardonastick
Footballguy
Both Carr and Winston were picked in the 13th round in my recent startup, as were Bryan Edwards and Darrynton Evans. Hope this helps.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
New to dynasty. Light on QBs in a superflex league. What is a QB worth? Like let's say a guy like Sam Darnold. Young, hasn't shown a ton but could have some potential. Any help/discussion would be great. Thank you!
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Depends if it’s 1QB or SF or 2QB. Obviously a ton more if it’s the latter. If it’s 1QB, I would definitely not overpay for any QB outside of the top four or five guys.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Thanks for the input. It's a SF.
What about a current player? I know it can be dependent on rosters and such. Sorry for the rookie questions, I'm new to dynasty. Thanks for the help!
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hankmoody
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Weekly consistency isn't something that really tracks well from year to year for WRs*, but this is doubly triply quadruply true for rookie WRs. Outside of Anquan Bolden and Randy Moss even the great rookie WR seasons are very inconsistent week to week.
*My favorite example of this is Ochocinco. One year everyone hated him because while he put up good end up year numbers, he did it in the most maddeningly boring way possible putting up the same 6 catches for the same 85 yards every week but he never had those big blowup "win your game for you on his own" type weeks. Then the next year everyone hated him because while he put up good end of year numbers, it all came on the back of 3 insanely monster games and he was really bad the rest of the year with no consistency and a really low floor.
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dipandglide
Footballguy
This. You sell these guys before the true alpha arrives at the scene. I would sell for a mid-2nd in this class in a heart beat.
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Trying to move Hooper and the 1.03 to a TE needy team in 16 team league. Targeting Godwin and wondering what I’ll need to add to the deal. My other option is the package Guice and 1.03 for Kamara but also think I may need a small add on. I just want a few reliable pieces and going 2+ for 1 is my goal. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
