Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Oh I agree with that - but it’s a little weird to be talking about this in relation to Guice, since he reportedly had to have several follow-up surgeries.
Guice, apparently.
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RB Derrius Guice, Free Agent (4 Viewers)
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Raptors409
Footballguy
I would bet the house against that. Barring injury to Guice, no way AP even gets 800 yards. It's funny to me that you show concern for AJ Green's ankle injury and Guice's ACL but you're confident in a 34 year old Adrian Peterson going for 900 yards. Even though Peterson is already banged up in camp himself.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Maybe. He's 34 and time catches up to these guys especially RBs.
He produced very well last season but looked more like a stop gap type player that produces with volume than a Hall of Fame talent. I wouldn't say he couldn't reach those numbers but I wouldn't project them. It will depend on what the Skins decide to do. Do they want to see what their young RB can do before having to decide what to do in next year's draft or do they want to give work to a 34 year old RB when they don't (likely) have much to play for?
I think it will depend on how healthy Guice is - and there seems to be some confusion on that right now. If he's healthy I think Peterson will be the backup and see some work but only a series or two per half. I don't plan on owning either of them though - if Peterson's ADP is Round 11 I guess I'd consider that but at that point I'm probably looking at QB or TE if I haven't addressed them yet.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I just read Peterson looks like Adonis and is having a solid count. Where did you read he was “banged up“? Link?
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Every player is in the "best shape of his life" in preseason.
matttyl
Footballguy
Last thing I heard about AP he was weighing in on the QB situation, and there was a bit about his current financial woes.I just read Peterson looks like Adonis and is having a solid count. Where did you read he was “banged up“? Link?
The last thing I heard about AP himself, he was still the fastest guy on the team.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
That's in response to how good of shape he's in. I haven't heard he's injured either.
ffmail4me
Footballguy
AP is a freak of nature. He might be an alien. But I do think Guice will the man as soon as he's ready. And none of us know when that is. But I'm glad I have him in most of my dynasty leagues. The only way this team is going to win games is with running the ball and good defense. And those happen to be their 2 strengths by all accounts right now. I certainly don't expect them to light it up in the passing game with a rookie QB and castaways and no legit #1 NFL WRs....
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Almost every NFL player is in incredible shape. It's meaningless fluff when you hear it. I'm sure Peterson is in great shape - I wouldn't be shocked if he can still play effectively but at 34 I wouldn't be shocked if he looks toasted on game day either.
Haha I mean it’s cool and all that the 3 guys interviewed didn’t want to disrespect ADP but there’s no way he’s the fastest guy on the team. McLaurin just ran a 4.35 at the combine which was faster than ADP ran and no way ADP is as fast as he was then. Just a lot of fluff IMO.
Raptors409
Footballguy
I just read Peterson looks like Adonis and is having a solid count. Where did you read he was “banged up“? Link?
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August 4th, 2019
Washington Redskins RB Adrian Peterson (leg/rest), CB Quinton Dunbar (illness), CB Greg Stroman (groin) and OT Morgan Moses (rest) sat out practice Sunday, Aug. 4.
https://www.fantasyguru.com/redskins-adrian-peterson-3-others-sit/
August 5th, 2019
Washington Redskins RB Adrian Peterson (ankle) has a minor ankle injury and might miss another day of practice Monday, Aug. 5.
https://www.fantasyguru.com/redskins-adrian-peterson-nicked-up/
August 5th, 2019
Peterson is expected to sit out Monday's practice while tending to a mild ankle injury, JP Finlay of NBC Sports Washington reports.Peterson missed the Redskins' previous session due to the issue, but coach Jay Gruden said there was little concern about the veteran running back's health heading into the regular season. Though the 34-year-old could be subjected to limited reps during the exhibition slate as a result of the injury, that likely would have been the case even if he was at optimal health. Peterson finished the 2018 season as Washington's top back, but he'll face stiffer competition for reps this season with Derrius Guice and Chris Thompson back to full strength early in training camp.
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/redskins-adrian-peterson-nursing-mild-ankle-issue/
August 14th, 2019 (today)
Peterson (ankle) has returned to practice at training camp. Briefly sidelined by an ankle injury, Peterson otherwise seems to have enjoyed good health throughout spring and summer practices. He was held out of the preseason opener along with a slew of other key veterans, but he could get a few carries in the second or third week of the exhibition slate. The 34-year-old is facing competition from Derrius Guice, who still hasn't been cleared for full contact but appears on track for a game appearance before the end of the preseason. With Chris Thompson set to handle passing downs, Washington may open the season with a three-headed backfield.
https://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/football/news/redskins-adrian-peterson-practicing-again/
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Raptors409
Footballguy
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
I’m not so sure.Well, yes. That would absolutely be a worst case scenario.
That said, my list is a bit more realistic.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I didn’t see any injuries. I saw something saying a “minor ankle” thing, from August 5th.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Weird because you said he’s banged up (present tense) but in the very thing you posted it said he’s “enjoyed good health”
isn't that weird?
Cmon son.
ZWK
Footballguy
Welker had his worst year in NE right after his ACL injury. Tore his ACL January 2010. Played in 2010, but had only 86/848/7 receiving (his only NE season below 110 receptions or 1100 yards). Then in 2011 (20 months after his injury) he had a career year.
Raptors409
Footballguy
You're right. I was pulling up the stats at work and as basing it off this article. I suppose it makes more sense that he didn't come back as Superman, lmao.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
nah - we’re All just bored and there isn’t any real news. I’m not mad at anyone in here.
Don Hutson
Footballguy
I wish Guice was cheaper than his 7th or 8th round adp. Guice might have tier one potential but this season he is just a handcuff in a bad situation. Adrian Peterson looked good last year and might be an anomaly when it comes to running back longevity. James Andrews said he had never seen a knee as pristine as Peterson's when he did surgery on him. Add to that Chris Thompson. Add to that defenses stacking the line because of the lack of a passing threat. Add to that a horrible offensive line. Add to that a team that won't run much because they will be playing from behind.
I'd be a Guice buyer in dynasty because of his vast potential. He is the perfect player to target mid-season in dynasty if your team isn't playoff bound. But I can't justify a 7th or 8th round pick on him in redraft when quality tight ends and wide receivers are still available in the draft.
I'd be a Guice buyer in dynasty because of his vast potential. He is the perfect player to target mid-season in dynasty if your team isn't playoff bound. But I can't justify a 7th or 8th round pick on him in redraft when quality tight ends and wide receivers are still available in the draft.
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Don Hutson
Footballguy
Having Josh Johnson, Colt McCoy, and Dirty Sanchez at quarterback and an offensive line riddled with injuries probably had a lot to do with Peterson's second half decline. But one reason for optimism for Guice is that Gruden won't hesitate to bench Peterson if he isn't producing. Gruden is fighting for his job and isn't going to worry about upsetting Peterson. Unfortunately, there aren't too many running backs in the NFL who can produce on a horrible offensive with an inept offensive line.
Guice’s 3 down skillset should help with the crappy OL too. They can get him the ball with short passes and mismatches vs LBs. Can’t do that as effectively with ADP.
Raptors409
Footballguy
We're just trying to sell the Pay Per View.Hot Sauce Guy said:
nah - we’re All just bored and there isn’t any real news. I’m not mad at anyone in here.
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matttyl
Footballguy
I'm going to go ahead and reiterate this after seeing him in action last night. Dude still has it. I get that 4 carriers isn't a large sample, but you can still see that he is what he was last year, which wasn't bad at all.
Raptors409
Footballguy
Dude looks like he could run for 1,200 yards. I just watched it. Crazy. He's definitely the value of the two.
dmac37
Footballguy
I still believe in Guice and thought Peterson would break down sooner than later but maybe not so much. 2 years ago it looked like AD was going break down on each of his carries but between last year and how he looked this year so far it looks like Guice investors may have to wait a while for a payoff.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
funny. I think most of his owners would be too. I'm hoping he shows enough for me to trade him. I need help this year and I can't bank on the long game maybe working out.Guice: 3rd quarter w/ 2 carries and 1 pass block set. Then done.
Yet I'm still
So far no bites but a strong showing tonight might get people excited, however it might make me believe he can be a decent flex/rb3 this year too
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Can't believe I had a page long back and forth last week over his health. They were clearly just being cautious, he's looked explosive in practice all preseason.
Penguin
Footballguy
Second-year back Derrius Guice did a good job in his first action after missing last year with the torn ACL. He gained 44 yards on 11 carries, showing good patience and burst. He was able to gain six yards on one run when none were available. However, Guice was unable to gain more than a half yard on two runs from the 1-yard line. It wasn't all on him, but he'll have to move the pile down there, too. In fairness, he did get in on third down but a holding penalty nullified the score. Still, it was an excellent first showing for the second-year back; the Redskins should be happy. They wanted him to knock off some rust and develop confidence in his knee.
John Keim, ESPN Staff Writer
John Keim, ESPN Staff Writer
jm192
Footballguy
I'm a bit more intrigued after tonight, but still not in a hurry to get him.
People loved him coming out of college, and even after the ACL tear he's on everyone's radar. I think the Redskins will stink. I think they'll give Peterson and Thompson enough touches to get on your nerves. I'm not sure I'm getting real excited about this offense for the next 2-3 years.
People loved him coming out of college, and even after the ACL tear he's on everyone's radar. I think the Redskins will stink. I think they'll give Peterson and Thompson enough touches to get on your nerves. I'm not sure I'm getting real excited about this offense for the next 2-3 years.
Football wise he looks like he's back and ready to contribute in a big way. He's answered the question whether he's healthy now.
Fantasy wise there are many flags: a.) this is a full on platoon; Peterson is not going to be emergency backup; they will share snaps. And this is smart football with Peterson's age and Guise coming back from injury. Why would you not keep both guys fresh? b.) The lack of QB and strong left side of line will result in drives being halted prematurely and therefore will limit offensive snaps.
WIth his potential, he's definitely worth stashing, but you might have other guys you are starting Week 1
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Thought he looked pretty good. It's important he was just able to get on the field.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
Someone stole and burned my Grey's Sports Almanac.
Unless you have a flying Delorean, I'm not sure you'll get those answers until the season starts
