What a #### list. Aerosmith at 2 and Beach Boys all the way down at 9?In a poll by Gibson, GNR came in 11th.
http://www.gibson.com/News-Lifestyle/Features/en-us/full-american-list-0701-2011.aspx
Can't deny their peak when it comes to sales and popularity. They were undeniably the biggest band on the planet for a good stretch of time and that helps their case for top 10 consideration.
It gets worse. REM at 8 - 8!!!!! - and no Funkadelic?What a #### list. Aerosmith at 2 and Beach Boys all the way down at 9?
Critics will always R.E.M, who are one of those bands critic love to drop to their knees for.It gets worse. REM at 8 - 8!!!!! - and no Funkadelic?
You're thinking about the white part of the globe. I'd call them about even in American / Europe, but there's no way U2 was more popular throughout Latin American than GnR was. Those countries love their metal.
No way were they bigger and/or more popular than U2, who was at their biggest in the late 80s and early 90s. U2 was selling out stadiums alone everywhere then. Granted, these are two different animals - U2 and GNR are two very different rock bands - but there is no way you can say that GNR was undeniably bigger than U2.
U2 might have been bigger but big and sucky just means you are incredibly sucky
No way were they bigger and/or more popular than U2, who was at their biggest in the late 80s and early 90s. U2 was selling out stadiums alone everywhere then. Granted, these are two different animals - U2 and GNR are two very different rock bands - but there is no way you can say that GNR was undeniably bigger than U2.
I thought you said "on the planet"? Now you are isolating it to Latin America?You're thinking about the white part of the globe. I'd call them about even in American / Europe, but there's no way U2 was more popular throughout Latin American than GnR was. Those countries love their metal.
I glossed over that, but, yikes, that is awful. Punk rock is another one of those things critics love to ejaculate over and overrate.at the ####### Ramones at #4
Crue over GnR? Cmon man!To me, they barely make it into the top 5 when it comes to metal / hard rock bands, so it's hard to throw them in top 10 overall.
In no particular order, Id put these bands ahead of them.
Metallica
VH
Motley Crue
Aerosmith (who I hate, but can't deny their sucksess)
The Allmans & Skynyrd were better, could "rock" just as hard, and were miles more versatile than any of those guys, IMO.To me, they barely make it into the top 5 when it comes to metal / hard rock bands, so it's hard to throw them in top 10 overall.
In no particular order, Id put these bands ahead of them.
Metallica
VH
Motley Crue
Aerosmith (who I hate, but can't deny their sucksess)
From that list I'd put GnR ahead of petty, aersosmith and the doors.My initial vote was yes but this list has them 13 (has Tool at 68 so you know it's a ####ty list)
http://m.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/greatest-american-rock-bands
I'd bump the Eagles and Van Halen out because they suck . Id probably bump them ahead of Skynyrd too
So I guess they get in but closer than I thought
You are dismissing the fact that the list in question only ranks Rock bands--and the Op's question only asked if G&R are a top 10 US band. One could easily argue that NWA was better than G&R in regards to talent and the way they transformed the culture of music. Also--while I'm not a fan of teeny bopper music--New Kids on the Block, Backstreet boys, and N'sync could be arguable because while their music was terrible--their album sales and popularity cannot be debated.From that list I'd put GnR ahead of petty, aersosmith and the doors.
aerosmith and the doors are among the two most overrated bands ever.
That list seems to be artists overall and may be even worse than the one that David posted. They have Chuck Berry at #86 (a crime in and of itself) behind the B-52s. I think I'm gonna :XMy initial vote was yes but this list has them 13 (has Tool at 68 so you know it's a ####ty list)
http://m.ranker.com/crowdranked-list/greatest-american-rock-bands
I'd bump the Eagles and Van Halen out because they suck . Id probably bump them ahead of Skynyrd too
So I guess they get in but closer than I thought
Define, por favorYou are dismissing the fact that the list in question only ranks Rock bands--and the Op's question only asked if G&R are a top 10 US band. One could easily argue that NWA was better than G&R in regards to talent and the way they transformed the culture of music. Also--while I'm not a fan of teeny bopper music--New Kids on the Block, Backstreet boys, and N'sync could be arguable because while their music was terrible--their album sales and popularity cannot be debated.
I assumed we were talking rock bands...are we not?You are dismissing the fact that the list in question only ranks Rock bands--and the Op's question only asked if G&R are a top 10 US band. One could easily argue that NWA was better than G&R in regards to talent and the way they transformed the culture of music. Also--while I'm not a fan of teeny bopper music--New Kids on the Block, Backstreet boys, and N'sync could be arguable because while their music was terrible--their album sales and popularity cannot be debated.
Not according the way the OP titled the question. I read it as top US band--which doesn't necessarily mean rock.I assumed we were talking rock bands...are we not?
Critics hate Styx and Journey, thus their exclusion. The success of both is foolish to deny, but critics hate most kind of rock described as arty (or progressive).The Gibson top-50 list is odd. While almost all the names belong, there are some baffling omissions: Where are The Cars, Styx, and Journey? I can see the list is very heavy on "influence" (or else Nirvana stall out around #15), but still.
One great year does not get you into the hall of fame.FTR, longevity does not equal greatness.
give me Gale Sayers, you can have Curtis Martin.
Define what? The list is titled "greatest American rock bands". Bands like the beastie boys, run dmc, NWA don't exist on that list--and if they are somehow on that list--they would be criminally underrated.Define, por favor
Define "rock bands" for me.Define what? The list is titled "greatest American rock bands". Bands like the beastie boys, run dmc, NWA don't exist on that list--and if they are somehow on that list--they would be criminally underrated.
It occurred to me that Journey could be excluded for having a British member at one time (Aynsley Dunbar). Same with Jefferson Starship (also Dunbar).Critics hate Styx and Journey, thus their exclusion. The success of both is foolish to deny, but critics hate most kind of rock described as arty (or progressive).
Never liked Petty that much - saw him in concert and I think I actually liked him less afterward. Aerosmith and the Doors were practically the soundtracks to different periods in my life and fit perfectly what I was into during those brief seasons. GnR never fit into anything I was doing - I always made a big profit off scalping their tickets so they have a special financial spot in my green heart.From that list I'd put GnR ahead of petty, aersosmith and the doors.
aerosmith and the doors are among the two most overrated bands ever.
Why should I? All I did was comment on what an author/publication titled their own list as being. There are no rap bands, hip hop bands, teeny bopper bands on that list--which is crystal clear. There is no Beastie boys on that list, no run dmc, no Boyz II Men, no n'sync, no New Kids on the Block, no Backstreet Boys--all of which are clearly US bands. If you want to know what the author of that list defined "rock" as being--ask them--not me. I'm not debating the definition of rock--I'm bringing up the point that the list in hand does not include many bands that could arguably be defined as being in the top of "US" bands. Let's not disregard that the Jackson 5 could and should easily be ranked ahead of G&R--and this list doesn't even consider them.Define "rock bands" for me.
Petty>>>>>>>>>>>GnR. Although this is comparing apples and oranges.Never liked Petty that much - saw him in concert and I think I actually liked him less afterward. Aerosmith and the Doors were practically the soundtracks to different periods in my life and fit perfectly what I was into during those brief seasons. GnR never fit into anything I was doing - I always made a big profit off scalping their tickets so they have a special financial spot in my green heart.
For a top ten list I'd have to deliberate where to put Aerosmith and Doors but GnR wouldn't even enter the discussion.
Appetite is probably one of the top rock albums of all time, but no GNR is not a top 10.A GB and I were discussing this. He claims GnR is not a top 10 US band because their run was so short lived.
Thoughts?
Does anyone in rock have an easier job than Petty?Never liked Petty that much - saw him in concert and I think I actually liked him less afterward.