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54 minutes ago, RBM said:

Ever meet a black nationalist?  Prepare to have your mind blown. 

I have. More than a few actually. I used to play chess in Los Angeles right next to a Nation of Islam temple, so these dudes would often come over and play, wearing their bow ties and suits. Very polite, soft spoken. A few of them were quite good players. Never discussed politics with them; not interested in being called a white devil. Just stuck to chess. 

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18 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

What prompted you to write this? The garbage disposal story?

She is in the house of representatives and can't even name the three branches of government.  She does not understand simple concepts about revenues and spending.  She does not understand the difference between lending money and ownership.  She does not comprehend the difference between local government responsibility and federal government.  Her 'plans' have no plan.  She really lives in some kind of fantasy world. 

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31 minutes ago, RBM said:

Serious question before you cowardly ban me.... How are you not ashamed of what this place has become?

Replace AOC with DJT and it’s full steam ahead

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Just now, HellToupee said:

Replace AOC with DJT and it’s full steam ahead

If someone said the same thing about a trump they’d be warmed too.  And if they called the owner a boot locker multiple people would be screaming for the person to be permabanned.. 

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Just now, sho nuff said:

If someone said the same thing about a trump they’d be warmed too.  And if they called the owner a boot locker multiple people would be screaming for the person to be permabanned.. 

You must be new here 

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Just now, HellToupee said:

You must be new here 

Nope. I’ve seen the dont things posted when people say things about Trump it conservative leaders.

And multiple complaints if someone says anything to a mod.

Care to try again?

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26 minutes ago, jon_mx said:

She is in the house of representatives and can't even name the three branches of government.  She does not understand simple concepts about revenues and spending.  She does not understand the difference between lending money and ownership.  She does not comprehend the difference between local government responsibility and federal government.  Her 'plans' have no plan.  She really lives in some kind of fantasy world. 

Do you think the garbage disposal story should be added to your list?

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7 minutes ago, sho nuff said:

Nope. I’ve seen the dont things posted when people say things about Trump it conservative leaders.

And multiple complaints if someone says anything to a mod.

Care to try again?

Dude...get a grasp of reality.

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4 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

Do you think the garbage disposal story should be added to your list?

Sure, why not?  The whole thought process of first being terrified and then wondering if it is environmentally friendly shows her thought process and how little she thinks before speaking.  Her depth of thought is very limited to far-left rhetoric.   

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34 minutes ago, jon_mx said:

She is in the house of representatives and can't even name the three branches of government.  

As opposed to Donald Trump who doesn't seem to recognize that there are three equal branches of government, as evidenced by his administrations defiance of requests from Congress that are now resulting in subpoenas.

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3 minutes ago, jon_mx said:

Sure, why not?  The whole thought process of first being terrified and then wondering if it is environmentally friendly shows her thought process and how little she thinks before speaking.  Her depth of thought is very limited to far-left rhetoric.   

I’ve wondered if garbage disposals are environmentally friendly. 

:oldunsure:

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4 minutes ago, squistion said:

As opposed to Donald Trump who doesn't seem to recognize that there are three equal branches of government, as evidenced by his administrations defiance of requests from Congress that are now resulting in subpoenas.

Weak attempt. Stick to your Twitter stuff.

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10 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

I’ve wondered if garbage disposals are environmentally friendly. 

:oldunsure:

Yes.  It is a more environmentally friendly way of disposing of food versus landfills.  

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15 minutes ago, squistion said:

As opposed to Donald Trump who doesn't seem to recognize that there are three equal branches of government, as evidenced by his administrations defiance of requests from Congress that are now resulting in subpoenas.

Neither one should be in government for similar reasons. 

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1 hour ago, Joe Bryant said:

I don't "cowardly" ban anyone.

Am I ashamed of this place? No.

Can we make it better? Yes. Please help. 

Joe, come on man, this is just message board talk.  Lets not get to this point.  

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1 hour ago, Joe Bryant said:

Don't compare women to zoo animals. Full stop. 

I think you misinterpreted his post.

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27 minutes ago, squistion said:

As opposed to Donald Trump who doesn't seem to recognize that there are three equal branches of government, as evidenced by his administrations defiance of requests from Congress that are now resulting in subpoenas.

I agree but this is the Cortez thread..Trump has 10 of his own threads. Lets keep this thread about Cortez not Trump.

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20 minutes ago, squistion said:

Which is why you never ever fail to not defend Trump at any opportunity.

This is a blatant falsehood

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25 minutes ago, pantherclub said:

I think you misinterpreted his post.

"She's kind of like a zoo animal."

Don't compare women to zoo animals. Full stop. 

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1 hour ago, RBM said:

Don't what?  What the hell does that mean there was nothing wrong with what I said unless you're a total liberal bootlicker. 

It's a bold strategy,  Cotton.  Lets see if it  pays off for him.

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3 minutes ago, Sinn Fein said:

It's a bold strategy,  Cotton.  Lets see if it  pays off for him.

Yes it is...

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2 hours ago, jon_mx said:

Her house was in Yorktown Heights, a place where the median family income is $137k.  Her father was an architect. 

I am confused. I thought 137K was barely making it in NYC

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5 minutes ago, the moops said:

I am confused. I thought 137K was barely making it in NYC

I am confused who said that.   It is certainly not well off, but it is a nice middle class income.   Yorkshire Heights is probably much more affordable than Manhatten. 

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14 minutes ago, the moops said:

I am confused. I thought 137K was barely making it in NYC

Depends on when you bought your house.

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It doesn’t surprise me at all that she’s never seen a garbage disposal. There’s large parts of New York where it’s not allowed- I think if there’s septic tanks. 

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3 hours ago, RBM said:

Her stupidity fascinates me. 

I won’t comment on the other part of this post, but as to this part- she’s not a stupid woman. At all. You guys seriously understestimate her when you do this. 

AOC graduated from Boston University cum laude. That’s not an easy school to get into; it’s one of the toughest in the entire country particularly in her field (international relations). Her degree is quite impressive. 

She’s naive for sure, impetuous, tweets before she thinks (like Trump), but she ain’t dumb. I disagree with her a lot. But I respect her. 

I also think she’s a very good person. When I read her tweets trying to inform people about getting shots, other public health advice, how much she gives of her time to help the less fortunate- her heart is in the right place. 

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3 minutes ago, timschochet said:

I won’t comment on the other part of this post, but as to this part- she’s not a stupid woman. At all. You guys seriously understestimate her when you do this. 

AOC graduated from Boston University cum laude. That’s not an easy school to get into; it’s one of the toughest in the entire country particularly in her field (international relations). Her degree is quite impressive. 

She’s naive for sure, impetuous, tweets before she thinks (like Trump), but she ain’t dumb. I disagree with her a lot. But I respect her. 

I also think she’s a very good person. When I read her tweets trying to inform people about getting shots, other public health advice, how much she gives of her time to help the less fortunate- her heart is in the right place. 

Meh.  W went to Harvard and constantly had his intelligence questioned.  

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:yes:

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez‏Verified account @AOC 8m8 minutes ago

Wouldn’t you think someone who personally lost over a BILLION dollars (“more than nearly any other taxpayer in America”) be vulnerable to shady activity to get out of that hole?

If they became the most powerful public servant in America, wouldn’t you want to see their taxes?

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Just now, Ramblin Wreck said:

Meh.  W went to Harvard and constantly had his intelligence questioned.  

Yeah but that’s because there were strong rumors that W got in  as a family thing. And I don’t think he graduated cum laude. 

Still I always thought his intelligence was underrated too. As was Reagan. And Donald Trump for that matter. You don’t get to be President unless you’re pretty bright. 

But Congresspeople are different. I’ve mentioned before in this thread that there are some really dumb members of Congress: Michelle Bachmann (no longer thankfully), Sheila Jackson Lee, Maxine Waters (quite embarrassing that she chairs a committee now), Steve King, etc. But I don’t believe this woman is one of them. 

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1 hour ago, timschochet said:

I won’t comment on the other part of this post, but as to this part- she’s not a stupid woman. At all. You guys seriously understestimate her when you do this. 

AOC graduated from Boston University cum laude. That’s not an easy school to get into; it’s one of the toughest in the entire country particularly in her field (international relations). Her degree is quite impressive. 

She’s naive for sure, impetuous, tweets before she thinks (like Trump), but she ain’t dumb. I disagree with her a lot. But I respect her. 

I also think she’s a very good person. When I read her tweets trying to inform people about getting shots, other public health advice, how much she gives of her time to help the less fortunate- her heart is in the right place. 

I'm not as impressed with her education as Tim is.

Here naivete and lack of understanding on how the world works is very dangerous given her power.  

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7 hours ago, TripItUp said:

I'm not as impressed with her education as Tim is.

Here naivete and lack of understanding on how the world works is very dangerous given her power.  

I’d guess BU is embarrassed 

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7 hours ago, TripItUp said:

I'm not as impressed with her education as Tim is.

Here naivete and lack of understanding on how the world works is very dangerous given her power.  

I’m buying more and more into the theory that she was a paid actress theory every time you see her go off script.  

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Since late 1999, I’ve lived in 6 apartments in 5 Brooklyn/Manhattan neighborhoods. Not only have I never had a garbage disposal, I’ve never known anyone living in the city to have one. I’ve seen full bathrooms with no sinks, a loft with the shower stall in the kitchen, W/D units might be anywhere (so long as it’s wet over wet - has to be a bathroom or kitchen in the space directly below.) But garbage disposal? Not since I left Michigan.

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19 minutes ago, BobbyLayne said:

Since late 1999, I’ve lived in 6 apartments in 5 Brooklyn/Manhattan neighborhoods. Not only have I never had a garbage disposal, I’ve never known anyone living in the city to have one. I’ve seen full bathrooms with no sinks, a loft with the shower stall in the kitchen, W/D units might be anywhere (so long as it’s wet over wet - has to be a bathroom or kitchen in the space directly below.) But garbage disposal? Not since I left Michigan.

Thank you. This is my understanding as well. 

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@El Floppo - ever had a garbage disposal in a NYC apartment you lived in? How about new construction or designs you’ve worked on - is that a thing now?

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11 hours ago, jon_mx said:

I am confused who said that.   It is certainly not well off, but it is a nice middle class income.   Yorkshire Heights is probably much more affordable than Manhatten. 

It was just a little shot at @jonessed and he apparently got the bat signal :)

 

He has been big on the 250K is barely middle class in certain parts of the country

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12 hours ago, jon_mx said:

Sure, why not?  The whole thought process of first being terrified and then wondering if it is environmentally friendly shows her thought process and how little she thinks before speaking.  Her depth of thought is very limited to far-left rhetoric.   

So she correctly figured out intuitively that garbage disposals are not environmentally friendly?  

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I doubt many people in their 20’s or younger knows what one is. Garbage disposals are an American thing as well. I know what one is but I never use the one I have nor have I used one when growing up. I’ve always had access to one but never used it. 

If the worst thing about AOC is that she doesn’t know what a garbage disposal is, she’s doing a lot in her life correctly. The Right is reaching at everything possible, small or big, to discredit her in the near term and long term. No doubt this garbage disposal “issue” comes up in 10 years when she is running for re-election to the presidency. No doubt. 

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I can understand never having had a garbage disposal. They are ubiquitous in my life, but apparently not so in the lives of New Yorkers.  What I do not understand is not being familiar with them at least through cinema.  Many is the horror movie or action movie where they are used as means of torture.  It would be hard to not have seen such a scene more than once.

Still, is this a big issue, not for me.  Is she trolling, stupid, unworldly, I don't know.  What I do know is she is yet again in the news and yet again a lightening rod.

 

I do wonder at what statements I may have made the first time I saw an unfamiliar appliance or fixture, like the public pissers in Holland or the squat over toilet holes in Bangkok.

 

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1 hour ago, BobbyLayne said:

@El Floppo - ever had a garbage disposal in a NYC apartment you lived in? How about new construction or designs you’ve worked on - is that a thing now?

Didn't used to be legal in the city. Changed around 2000. Starting to revert back to illegal, but on a building by building basis.

Eta. Thought you summoned me to the NYC thread. Wtf. Not just the PF, but what I can only imagine is the most disgusting dregs of the PF in this thread. What do garbage disposals have to do with anything here?

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41 minutes ago, El Floppo said:

Didn't used to be legal in the city. Changed around 2000. Starting to revert back to illegal, but on a building by building basis.

Eta. Thought you summoned me to the NYC thread. Wtf. Not just the PF, but what I can only imagine is the most disgusting dregs of the PF in this thread. What do garbage disposals have to do with anything here?

Not sure, I didn’t read the story, but I surmised that apparently AOC now has a garbage disposal (maybe in her D.C. apartment?) & many thought it was unbelievable that she had never seen a garbage disposal. 

If I have the gist of that correct, seems not only plausible but probable that a millennial who grew up in NYC had never encountered a gd in any place they had lived in until they moved to another city (presumably she never saw one at BU or BC or wherever she went.)

How is the NYC thread these days? Major still dropping Per Se & Employees Only every time someone asks for rec?

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I have good news!

Casey Neistat is selling his condo

Same price he paid for it two years ago. Featured in Vogue or Arch Digest or sumtin’ last fall. Besides the 3 en suite bedrooms, this pad has a ####### garbage disposal. 

You might think $1670 /sq ft is on the high side, but most newish developments in lower Manhattan are north of $2K. Granted BPC is only technically part of NYC - it didn’t exist until they dumped fill from the original WTC complex over there - but hey, amenity rich, bike path, parks, shopping, Holocaust Museum. Run don’t walk.

ETA: Casey moved to California. New York City is officially over now.

ETA2: High school dropout who used to live in a trailer park How can you not love that guy?

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1 hour ago, Bottomfeeder Sports said:

So she correctly figured out intuitively that garbage disposals are not environmentally friendly?  

Do I read into this correctly that you believe they are not environmentally friendly?  For some reason I'm very interested in the question.  It seems most of what I read in Google search articles suggests they are better for the environment than throwing the food in the regular trash. I'd like to read the opposing opinion.

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2 hours ago, Bottomfeeder Sports said:

So she correctly figured out intuitively that garbage disposals are not environmentally friendly?  

Link? 

Better than landfills.  If everyone would compost it would be ideal. 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:
2 hours ago, Bottomfeeder Sports said:

So she correctly figured out intuitively that garbage disposals are not environmentally friendly?  

Do I read into this correctly that you believe they are not environmentally friendly?  For some reason I'm very interested in the question.  It seems most of what I read in Google search articles suggests they are better for the environment than throwing the food in the regular trash. I'd like to read the opposing opinion.

I trusted this

17 hours ago, tonydead said:

I'd prefer the people promoting green new deals to be familiar with the different ways garbage is disposed of.  It's because of environmental reasons some places no longer use them or have banned them in the past.

Now I don't necessarily trust that the governments that banned them didn't have their own biases factoring in their cost - benefits analysis, but I think the fact that there are such bans makes asking the question anything but a sign of lack of intelligence.

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58 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

Do I read into this correctly that you believe they are not environmentally friendly?  For some reason I'm very interested in the question.  It seems most of what I read in Google search articles suggests they are better for the environment than throwing the food in the regular trash. I'd like to read the opposing opinion.

 

34 minutes ago, Bottomfeeder Sports said:

I trusted this

Now I don't necessarily trust that the governments that banned them didn't have their own biases factoring in their cost - benefits analysis, but I think the fact that there are such bans makes asking the question anything but a sign of lack of intelligence.

It depends.  Generally I think garbage disposals are better for the environment than putting food into the landfill.  The top choice being composting.  But it really depends where you live and what the water treatment facilities are set up for.  Two conditions I know of that make garbage disposing worse for the environment:

1- Near water ways where water treatment facilities are not set up to turn the waist into bio-fuel and it would be dumped back into the water system and can change the chemical composition of the water which would be harmful to the wildlife (fish).  This is a worse situation than going to a controlled land fill.

2- The sewer systems aren't set up to handle the fats and oils generated by the garbage disposals that caused a lot of maintenance and plumbing problems.  Again, landfill would be a better environmental choice.

This just goes to show that not only is it important to understand how waste is disposed, but, also understand that the best environmental choice often isn't universal for every situation.

ETA:  For #2 it's never recommended to use a garbage disposal on a septic system for that reason.

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