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You know how many articles I have read about AOC this past week? None. The only mention of her I notice is when this topic inevitably gets bumped to the top of the forum because Jon is quoting her

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5 hours ago, tonydead said:

1- Agree, it's weird to post everyday obsessively about Trump.   Even weirder you think it needs to happen more.

2- #1 isn't accomplishing anything so if that's what you're doing to get "work" done, well, you will never be done.  

Yeah, people that spent the last 3 years hyperventilating about Trump don’t get to complain about the weird fixation on AOC.  

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18 minutes ago, timschochet said:

What you wrote is correct until “that makes her the face of the party”. It doesn’t. 

First off, the face of the party is whoever will be the nominee. After that, it’s Pelosi. Don’t kid yourself about this.

Exactly. He is falsely equating getting more current publicity with being the de facto face of the party, but it doesn't work that way. I would like to see a poll among non-Fox viewers asking "Who is the face of the Democratic Party?" and I doubt she would make the top 5. She is a new face, she is a fresh face, her ideas are getting a lot of attention, but that doesn't translate into her becoming the public's perception of the party.

 

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1 hour ago, jon_mx said:

Just look at the last day.  Just a typical day for AOC, she has stories about her from the New York Times, CNN, CNBC, Fox News, Politico, the Hill, the New York Post, Newsweek, Mother Jones....virtually every major  news organization is covering every word she says everyday.  They all have different angles and cover different topics.  Her views on gardening.  Her views on the finale of the GoT.   Her views in Biden.   Who she is going to endorse.  Discussion of her green new deal.  Day in and day out, you can find news on AOC.  She is the most covered person behind Trump.  Biden, Warren, Pelosi, or Sanders don't get the coverage she gets combined.   That makes her the face of the Party whether the Party likes it or not.  And I agree most probably don't like it, but it does not change the fact. 

Maybe we're into semantics, but I don't think press coverage rises to "face of". She's  a  freshman congress member who doesn't speak for the party and whose views don't represent the majority of the party. She publicly identifies as a Democratic Socialist, so basically calling out that she has a different position.
I believe you on all of those stories, but personally see very little coverage. Mostly from stopping by this thread. The only things I remember seeing recently directly in the media are the stories on Sanders/Warren seeking her endorsement and the interest rate cap bill she's working on with Sanders.

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My problem with Ocasio-Cortez isn’t garbage disposal nonsense, millennial/generational appeal, or dumb political beef with Breitbart crowd.  It’s how she caves to Dem establishment time and time again, while Ilhan was out there getting roasted because she actually stood up for something.  She’s not an ally, she’s not a progressive, she’s not any good.  She’s a milquetoast Bernie liberal in “socialist” clothing.  

You can’t be like Bernie Sanders and act like a focus on domestic issues can possibly excuse ineffectual fingerwagging at the US national security state.  You can’t keep getting shat on by the likes of Nancy Pelosi and Andrew Cuomo, voting for them and sheepdogging your followers behind them, and keep pretending they’ll eventually come around to an actual populist goal.  You can’t keep ignoring the military industrial complex like it isn’t eating this country alive.

We need real courage, real leadership and a real opposition party in Washington.  Not Instagram star pretenders.  Tired of this joke clown and her never ending 15 mins of fame.  Spend the time and energy on someone that actually deserves it.

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36 minutes ago, jon_mx said:

The face of the party is the face.   It is who people see.   It is who people talk about.  Certainly Biden and Pelosi have more power and represent their views better, but they are not what people are seeing....ie., the face.  

Our media is driven by clicks, views, impressions, eyeballs and profits.  They don't care about news.  They covered Trump like they are covering AOC.  Welcome to the current state of our media.

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18 minutes ago, Juxtatarot said:

What did she say about Game of Thrones?

That the finale was clearly written by men.

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5 minutes ago, Jayrod said:

That the finale was clearly written by men.

She wanted women to rule.  

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1 hour ago, Jayrod said:

That the finale was clearly written by men.

OK, just saw the video.  Are people taking that seriously?

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2 hours ago, ren hoek said:

My problem with Ocasio-Cortez...It’s how she caves to Dem establishment time and time again

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Don’t ever change, ren. 

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24 minutes ago, timschochet said:

It will be interesting to see how much local political power AOC has, since she is endorsing fellow socialist Tiffany Caban for DA: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2019/05/22/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-backs-fellow-democratic-socialist-for-queens-da/amp/

She is more popular with the progressive elites than her local constituents.   I doubt it helps.   Despite what people say here, her seat is not safe from a democratic challenge.   

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AOC tweet of the day:  "This is a public announcement that we successfully grew, harvested, & ate spinach, collard greens, & swiss chard from the garden plot! As such, I now reserve the right to use this emoji 👩🏾‍🌾"

 

Only vegetables of color!  None of those evil imperialistic white vegetables like cauliflower.  :pickle:

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12 hours ago, jon_mx said:

She wanted women to rule.  

Cersei and Dany did, Sansa does now.  And don't forget the Iron born chick and the crazy beotch from the Erie ruled at various times, so to the little chick with 62 knights who ended up stabbing the zombie giant.  Also in Dorne the females ruled, though from behind the throne.   I'd say women were thoroughly represented as being in power.  True, temporarily Bran is the king of the six realms, but women had a strong say.

As for AOC, well she must be relishing the power given to her by obsession with her.

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1 hour ago, Ditkaless Wonders said:

Cersei and Dany did, Sansa does now.  And don't forget the Iron born chick and the crazy beotch from the Erie ruled at various times, so to the little chick with 62 knights who ended up stabbing the zombie giant.  Also in Dorne the females ruled, though from behind the throne.   I'd say women were thoroughly represented as being in power.  True, temporarily Bran is the king of the six realms, but women had a strong say.

As for AOC, well she must be relishing the power given to her by obsession with her.

You do realize 100 pages of the 148 pages are obscenely ovely obsessive Trump-haters posting on how this one little thread is obsessive.  

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14 hours ago, Juxtatarot said:

OK, just saw the video.  Are people taking that seriously?

Maybe.  You'd have to ask them.

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Been quite an educational week.

First we learned of these devices in our sinks called garbage disposals which are potential threats to our evironment.

Then we were informed how the white man were keeping people of color down by having vegetables like cauliflower grown in community gardens.

And for today's lesson, we are told of these crazy environmental casual tornados which are some new threat to mankind caused by the GOP.

AOC's tweet of the day:

AOCshared her thoughts on the warning on Instagram.@ocasio2018 via Instagram

“Guys, they just issued a tornado watch in D.C.,” she says in the video.

She then pans over and shows the rain and a few people who were caught in the deluge.

“Oh no, there’s people stuck outside. We need to get them out,” she said in the livestream.

“The climate crisis is real y’all … guess we’re at casual tornadoes in growing regions of the country,”

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On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2019 at 4:43 AM, jon_mx said:

You do realize 100 pages of the 148 pages are obscenely ovely obsessive Trump-haters posting on how this one little thread is obsessive.  

Dude, they no longer have individual counts for each poster in a thread, but if they did you would probably be the runaway leader of these 148 pages. I haven't made a count, but you must have twice as many posts as all of the liberals, progressives and AOC supporters combined.

If anyone is overly obsessed over AOC it is you, as evidenced by the fact, that once again, your above post is the first and only one so far today (until mine :hophead:).

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51 minutes ago, squistion said:

Dude, they no longer have individual counts for each poster in a thread, but if they did you would probably be the runaway leader of these 148 pages. I haven't made a count, but you must have twice as many posts as all of the liberals, progressives and AOC supporters combined.

If anyone is overly obsessed over AOC it is you, as evidenced by the fact, that once again, your above post is the first and only one so far today (until mine :hophead:).

This page alone is about 80 percent discussion by/about leftist trolls who want to deflect.  Seems many do not want to acknowledge the pure ignorance of her quotes or defend it.   It is just troll and deflect.   Why not defend her scientifically incorrect statements.   Of course if you do defend her, even she will call you dumber than a sponge for believing the crap she says.  

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5 minutes ago, jon_mx said:

This page alone is about 80 percent discussion by/about leftist trolls who want to deflect.  Seems many do not want to acknowledge the pure ignorance of her quotes or defend it.   It is just troll and deflect. Why not defend her scientifically incorrect statements.   Of course if you do defend her, even she will call you dumber than a sponge for believing the crap she says.  

I don't care and apparently few other progressives or liberals do either that she thinks yucca should be planted in a community garden instead of cauliflower. I know you follow her on Twitter, I don't and it was a non-story in liberal/progressive/Democratic circles. I didn't even know she said it until you posted it in this thread.

You still can't keep talking about this non issue saying again today that she informed us that  "the white man were keeping people of color down" Please.

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1 hour ago, squistion said:

Dude, they no longer have individual counts for each poster in a thread, but if they did you would probably be the runaway leader of these 148 pages. I haven't made a count, but you must have twice as many posts as all of the liberals, progressives and AOC supporters combined.

If anyone is overly obsessed over AOC it is you, as evidenced by the fact, that once again, your above post is the first and only one so far today (until mine :hophead:).

Total falsehood with no evidence to support this. 

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3 minutes ago, Ramblin Wreck said:

Total falsehood with no evidence to support this. 

How can there be evidence unless I go back to page one and count every single poster's post over 146 pages?

Anyway, that is my perception. I could be wrong. If you want to go back and make a post count of jon_mx and all other posters over 146 pages so we can do a count of his posts versus liberals and progressives here, be my guest. If you prove me wrong I will be glad to acknowledge that.

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3 minutes ago, squistion said:

I don't care and apparently few other progressives or liberals do either that she thinks yucca should be planted in a community garden instead of cauliflower. I know you follow her on Twitter, I don't and it was a non-story in liberal/progressive/Democratic circles. I didn't even know she said it until you posted it in this thread.

You still can't keep talking about this non issue saying again today that she informed us that  "the white man were keeping people of color down" Please.

This is like the third lie is two postings you have spewed.  I don't follow her on Twitter.  Her news pops up on Google, and I find her statements ridiculously funny in how dumb they are.

Look, I do not follow you around in your 80 friggin threads you bump on a weekly basis and tell you how obsessively stupid you are.   If you want to comment on the discussion fine.   If you just want to troll with your personalizations, take it somewhere else, like one of your threads.  

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9 minutes ago, jon_mx said:

This is like the third lie is two postings you have spewed.  I don't follow her on Twitter.  Her news pops up on Google, and I find her statements ridiculously funny in how dumb they are.

Look, I do not follow you around in your 80 friggin threads you bump on a weekly basis and tell you how obsessively stupid you are.   If you want to comment on the discussion fine.   If you just want to troll with your personalizations, take it somewhere else, like one of your threads.  

Yeah, when you type in a famous person's name on Google that's generally what happens.

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The title of this article is “Democrats vie for AOC’s support”: 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/05/23/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-2020-democrats/index.html

But that’s misleading. In truth, there are two candidates who ally themselves with AOC and would very much like her endorsement: Bernie Sanders and Liz Warren. All of the others, with one exception, need to be cautious: they neither want her support nor do they want to alienate her. So they will play a careful game. 

The exception, I believe, is Joe Biden. He has already distanced himself from her without naming her publicly- and she has criticized him directly. I think that at some point he’s going to take direct shots at her, probably after he has sewn up the nomination. Obviously the intent here, like Clinton with Sistah Souljah, is for Biden to position himself in the center, and thus destroy Trump’s attempts to label the Democrats as far left. And to be frank, some of AOC’s sillier statements make her a far better foil than Warren or Sanders could ever be. 

So AOC will serve a useful purpose for Biden- its great for him. Whether or not it’s great for the future of the Democratic Party is more problematic. AOC represents a real problem, IMO. The Democrats will be unified to defeat Trump. But the split is coming soon after that happens. 

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16 minutes ago, jon_mx said:

This is like the third lie is two postings you have spewed.  I don't follow her on Twitter.  Her news pops up on Google, and I find her statements ridiculously funny in how dumb they are.

Look, I do not follow you around in your 80 friggin threads you bump on a weekly basis and tell you how obsessively stupid you are.   If you want to comment on the discussion fine.   If you just want to troll with your personalizations, take it somewhere else, like one of your threads.  

Both of you please drop it. 

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12 minutes ago, Joe Bryant said:

Both of you please drop it. 

Sorry Joe, but he stars it every time and he reports it everytime and you justify his actions by these kind of responses to it.  If someone just comes up from nowhere and shoves you, that is the person who needs to be called out.  It is all recorded in black and white.  

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Well, she does have a sense of humor unlike some of her critics:
 

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RainnWilson‏ @rainnwilson 42m

I love the idea of a Green New Deal but @FoxNews said the plan includes the mandatory sucking of farts out of camels, solar panel skull implants, Al Gore face tattoos for all, and prison time for Ford F-250 owners. So must be true. Suck it, @AOC!

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez‏Verified account @AOC 17m

If Fox News said it, it must be true! 

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On 5/22/2019 at 10:09 AM, Jayrod said:

AOC is basically a microcosm of the very system that lead to Trump

We have Trump because the system was fresh and dynamic but also at times over exuberant and impulsive?   

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Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is returning to her restaurant roots this week. She'll serve drinks to show support for the federal Raise the Wage Act and abolishing below-minimum wage for tipped workers in New York State

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-ocasio-cortez-restaurant-workers-minimum-wage-tipped-20190528-gmvdbirsxfdgrbkumfwp42hpaq-story.html

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5 minutes ago, squistion said:

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is returning to her restaurant roots this week. She'll serve drinks to show support for the federal Raise the Wage Act and abolishing below-minimum wage for tipped workers in New York State

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-ocasio-cortez-restaurant-workers-minimum-wage-tipped-20190528-gmvdbirsxfdgrbkumfwp42hpaq-story.html

 

Great. So she says she defends the workers of her state, but then steps in and takes work away from them - working a shift that they could be working. Everything she does is so stupid. #jonquote

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Just now, whoknew said:

In fairness, they made (what seems like) a pretty sincere apology. Probably either a rogue employee or just a dumb mistake.

rumblings from peeps i know in Fresno suggest it's the Entertainment Manager for the Grizzlies who greenlit the video.

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8 minutes ago, jonessed said:

The Kim Jong-Un comparison seems unfair.  She might actually like the Castro comparison though.

You think she would like to be compared a a dictator and tyrant?

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Just now, whoknew said:

You think she would like to be compared a a dictator and tyrant?

Not everybody sees him that way.

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1 minute ago, jonessed said:

Not everybody sees him that way.

You’re about 40 years behind the times. 

Che Guevara is still a leftist icon. So is Frieda Kahlo. Fidel, Not so much. 

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16 minutes ago, whoknew said:

In fairness, they made (what seems like) a pretty sincere apology. Probably either a rogue employee or just a dumb mistake.

:yes:

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Fresno Grizzlies‏Verified account @FresnoGrizzlies 12h12 hours ago

We're embarrassed we allowed this video to play without seeing it in its entirety first. We unconditionally apologize to Rep. Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) in addition to our fans, community and those we hurt. It was a mistake and we will ensure that nothing like it ever happens again.

 

 

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Offensive that they'd even be talking about "enemies of freedom" at a baseball game.  Get the jingoism out of sports already!  :censored:

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1 hour ago, whoknew said:

You think she would like to be compared a a dictator and tyrant?

I have it on good authority that he did some good things for public schooling and civil rights. 

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8 minutes ago, IvanKaramazov said:

People in this thread are obsessed with the Fresno Grizzlies.  

Nobody is obsessed. The Fresno Grizzlies are just the face of baseball. And they are morons. They are the dumbest baseball team in existence.

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21 minutes ago, whoknew said:

Nobody is obsessed. The Fresno Grizzlies are just the face of baseball. And they are morons. They are the dumbest baseball team in existence.

Even the kitchen staff doesn't know what a garbage disposal is. 

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44 minutes ago, whoknew said:

Nobody is obsessed. The Fresno Grizzlies are just the face of baseball. And they are morons. They are the dumbest baseball team in existence.

They can’t spell accomplishments. 

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4 hours ago, jonessed said:

The Kim Jong-Un comparison seems unfair.  She might actually like the Castro comparison though.

Castro is a little too far to the right for her. 

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5 hours ago, whoknew said:

 

Great. So she says she defends the workers of her state, but then steps in and takes work away from them - working a shift that they could be working. Everything she does is so stupid. #jonquote

Why do you liars always have to make up quotes instead of using my actual quotes?  Are you obsessed with lying?  It is not like there are not hundreds of actual quotes to choose from.  Really pathetic.  

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