Thanks a lotWe got McVay’d
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Thanks a lotWe got McVay’d
Darrell Henderson rushed eight times for 22 yards in the Rams' Week 4 win over the Giants, adding one catch for 16 yards.
Henderson got a few totes in the Rams' opening drive, narrowly missing a short touchdown. It was all downhill from there for Henderson. Malcolm Brown led the team in rushing with Cam Akers (rib) out. Week 4 was a far cry from the Week 3 version of Henderson, who served as the team's workhorse on his way to 120 total yards. We probably won't be able to know which Rams running backs will get the nod on a weekly basis. Henderson could be a flex option next week against Washington.
Oct 4, 2020, 7:19 PM ET
I was checking the score during breaks at a soccer match, noticed he had some carries early but didn't do much after the 1st quarter. I thought he must have gotten hurt.We got McVay’d
yeah was thinking the same thing, possibly a grind it out against a bad team with brown. might be wishful thinking but maybe mcvay didnt want to waste him in that spot.Seems like they truly just don't like him for some reason. I thought the last couple of weeks might have changed that, but here we are. Maybe it was just more of a "Malcolm Brown" type of game, whatever that means.
I mean, they barely won, so the concept of not wasting him, seems pretty silly.yeah was thinking the same thing, possibly a grind it out against a bad team with brown. might be wishful thinking but maybe mcvay didnt want to waste him in that spot.
I've gotten destroyed with COVID this week Ben Juju and Conners all out. I had Cook and decided to start Henderson after the last two weeks. Had Keenan Allen as a flex to Replace Juju and Rodgers to replace Ben. Needed a new flex went with Jeff Wilson who did nothing. Only saving Grace is Hill is thankfully playing tomorrow and I got Rodgers and Mason Crosby in the other game. Need 54 ps which if Rodgers and Crosby play to what they have the first 3 weeks I don't need a big game out of Hill so it may not have hurt me too bad Henderson play this weekThanks a lot
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right now he has 4.2 points
Thanks!!!!I've gotten destroyed with COVID this week Ben Juju and Conners all out. I had Cook and decided to start Henderson after the last two weeks. Had Keenan Allen as a flex to Replace Juju and Rodgers to replace Ben. Needed a new flex went with Jeff Wilson who did nothing. Only saving Grace is Hill is thankfully playing tomorrow and I got Rodgers and Mason Crosby in the other game. Need 54 ps which if Rodgers and Crosby play to what they have the first 3 weeks I don't need a big game out of Hill so it may not have hurt me too bad Henderson play this week
https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/747601-bragging-venting-crowing-grieving/Thanks!!!!I've gotten destroyed with COVID this week Ben Juju and Conners all out. I had Cook and decided to start Henderson after the last two weeks. Had Keenan Allen as a flex to Replace Juju and Rodgers to replace Ben. Needed a new flex went with Jeff Wilson who did nothing. Only saving Grace is Hill is thankfully playing tomorrow and I got Rodgers and Mason Crosby in the other game. Need 54 ps which if Rodgers and Crosby play to what they have the first 3 weeks I don't need a big game out of Hill so it may not have hurt me too bad Henderson play this week
Matt Harmon, What to care/not care about from Week 4: The Eagles aren't pretty and we should just accept that• I think Sean McVay believes in himself more than he does any singular back in his rotation. Three different backs have shown some momentum in the last six weeks or so, but no one’s been able to sustain it. This is part of what you get with the vanity play designers, albeit McVay’s chops cannot be questioned.
The bolded is unbelievable considering McVay does believe in advanced football metrics and they're been touting Henderson as a guy to feed 20+ touches after the last 2 games.The Rams backfield was predictably unpredictable
All summer I said that the Rams backfield was going to be a committee because I believed Sean McVay when he told us that was what he wanted. That said, I still bought into Darrell Henderson Jr.’s momentum over the last two weeks.
He balled out in Weeks 2 and 3, but I should have listened to myself. It didn’t matter.
Malcolm Brown took 35 snaps to 22 for Henderson, handling 14 touches to Henderson’s nine. The elder back was the clear preference in the passing game as he ran 21 routes while Henderson went out for just five. Nothing could have tipped us off to be prepared for this switch. Well, nothing except everything the team said all offseason. I admit I got caught up in the moment.
In reality, we can’t care too much about this unpredictability because it was perfectly predictable. What we should care about is the Rams offense overall looking a bit stuck in the mud. Coming into Week 4, the Rams led the NFL in both passing and rushing success rate. Against a Giants team that was embarrassed by the 49ers JV team last week, they managed just 17 points. Perhaps that will lead to McVay making even more tweaks when the team takes on Washington in Week 5.
This. No need for any more expanded analysis. They barely beat one of the worst teams in the NFL and didn’t utilize one of their best players. McVay just wanted to show everyone how smart he thinks he is.The usage was ridiculous today. The only explanation for it is McVay is dumb. Period.
THANK GOD the owner decline my offer just minute before kickoff !!!I'm offering Mixon for Henderson.
I was right about McVay.2019 Henderson gets annointedn the future of the franchise,mgurley struggles, Henderson does nothing
Offseason team drafts cam akers
Training camp Malcolm Brown emerges as the leader of a committee backfield
Week 1 Malcolm Brown leads the committee and has a big game, akers gets some carries and doesnt look as good, Henderson basically an afterthought
Week 2 Malcolm Brown starts and breaks his finger, Henderson gets more run late and looks good
Week 3 Malcolm Brown has finger taped, plays some but Henderson has a big game
Week 4 Malcolm Brown is the starter, Henderson basically an afterthought
Fantasy football community: It's impossible to predict!
No, it's because McVay doesn't like your fantasy teamBut at least on a YPC basis Brown significantly out performed Henderson. So it could have been a hot hand thing (or more like cold hand since Brown wasn't awesome either). Against Buffalo the snaps were 50/50, but Henderson got all the work. Might also be because of practice - maybe Henderson doesn't put in the effort during practice or something.
I promptly picked him up off waivers in my league after the pinky injury. My line of thinking was, “Sure, I’ll take that potentially starting RB for an offensive minded coach. Thanks!”.2019 Henderson gets annointedn the future of the franchise,mgurley struggles, Henderson does nothing
Offseason team drafts cam akers
Training camp Malcolm Brown emerges as the leader of a committee backfield
Week 1 Malcolm Brown leads the committee and has a big game, akers gets some carries and doesnt look as good, Henderson basically an afterthought
Week 2 Malcolm Brown starts and breaks his finger, Henderson gets more run late and looks good
Week 3 Malcolm Brown has finger taped, plays some but Henderson has a big game
Week 4 Malcolm Brown is the starter, Henderson basically an afterthought
Fantasy football community: It's impossible to predict!
Week 1, Henderson was coming off of a hamstring injury2019 Henderson gets annointedn the future of the franchise,mgurley struggles, Henderson does nothing
Offseason team drafts cam akers
Training camp Malcolm Brown emerges as the leader of a committee backfield
Week 1 Malcolm Brown leads the committee and has a big game, akers gets some carries and doesnt look as good, Henderson basically an afterthought
Week 2 Malcolm Brown starts and breaks his finger, Henderson gets more run late and looks good
Week 3 Malcolm Brown has finger taped, plays some but Henderson has a big game
Week 4 Malcolm Brown is the starter, Henderson basically an afterthought
Fantasy football community: It's impossible to predict!
They invested important draft capital into DH, they obviously don’t hate him. But no one knows his game better then they do, they certainly know better then us internet warriors or the fantasy “experts”. There is clearly something in his game they are seeing in practice and game day that doesn’t line up with what they want.The Rams regime hates Henderson.....Akers is the announced one....they gambled with Brown over the more dynamic Henderson to “grease the skids” for Akers when he’s back from injury.
I certainly knew better, but these knee jerk reactionaries who change their mind on a weekly basis, makes statements like that.I thought he was a "set it and forget it"?
It's like reading Rotoworld! LOLI certainly knew better, but these knee jerk reactionaries who change their mind on a weekly basis, makes statements like that.
It's pretty disappointing to get 4pts out of the guy, but like NE RB's, you just cannot count on certain coaches to run a bell cow out there each week. Henderson is near worthless from a fantasy standpoint unless we see more injuries crop up.I certainly knew better, but these knee jerk reactionaries who change their mind on a weekly basis, makes statements like that.
One week yes, another week no.It's pretty disappointing to get 4pts out of the guy, but like NE RB's, you just cannot count on certain coaches to run a bell cow out there each week. Henderson is near worthless from a fantasy standpoint unless we see more injuries crop up.
Exactly. James White is great one week. Then he's not. So is Sony, and then he's not. So is Burkhead, then he's not. I do not want any pieces to these backfields because you cannot count on points from them.One week yes, another week no.
Only good news for people with Henderson is the offense stunk and Brown did nothing to help. Maybe McVay will see the tape and think Henderson needs a bigger role again.In McVay's press conference he says they couldn't get into a rhythm running the football, that's pretty general.
Man, I've been pretty impressed with Henderson so far, but that feels like you should get quite a bit added for Drake. I do agree Drake is unsurprisingly not living up to his ADP, but still quite a difference between the two.I have Akers (re-draft) and thinking of offering Drake for Henderson this week, just to get a piece of this Rams pie. I have a feeling the coaching in Arizona just stinks overall and Murray isn't really that great of a QB.
Say what?Ministry of Pain said:In McVay's press conference he says they couldn't get into a rhythm running the football, that's pretty general.
/doubtThe first thing he wanted to point out was that Henderson took a big shot in the game and the Rams wanted to make sure he was OK – which he was. But with the game being more of a downhill, grind-it-out battle, McVay felt it was better to use Brown.
“He’s good. He got a got a good shot where we were just making sure he’s feeling good. He came back in, but really it was kind of a physical downhill kind of a dirty-type running game,” McVay said. “We weren’t really able to run. We didn’t get as many opportunities. Really because we weren’t as efficient on third down that led to a lot of the lack of success, if you will just all offensively overall. I think you look at what a small margin for error it was. To answer your original question, and then I’ll go on a little tangent myself, we wanted to rotate those guys, but the way that the game kind of ended up playing out, Malcolm ended up getting more touches. It was hard to get into any sort of rhythm.”
There’s no question Henderson is a better runner outside the tackles, thriving when he can get to the edge and turn the corner. Brown is more accustomed to running between the tackles and getting those hard-earned yards, while rarely ripping off big runs like Henderson does.
Based on McVay’s comments, it sounds like the Giants took away the Rams’ outside zone runs, which the film would back up. There were some cutback lanes to be found, but nothing like the ones Henderson found last week against the Bills.
After his initial explanation, McVay went on to summarize the Rams’ lack of opportunities on offense, which also played a big part in the reduced carries by Henderson. After the first drive, Henderson had just four touches, partly because the Rams’ possessions were brief and lacked progress.
“I think when you just look at what a fine line it is between playing well and then it not really feeling like you’re getting nearly the production that’s expected of this unit and that what we’ve been accustomed to is, you have your first series go 12 plays go right down the field and ended up scoring a touchdown. Second series, you end up fumbling on the first play that then gives them a little bit of momentum that they end up getting a field goal out of. You go three-and-out on a situation on the third series, where we got a play-action, that we would typically hit on a second down that’s there and they’re place that we’ve made. We end up taking a sack on third down where uncharacteristic plays by our guys that we just really haven’t missed. Then, we ended up getting a 14-play drive that because of a red-zone mistake, probably ends up resulting in a field goal instead of a touchdown when you take a sack there. So, that’s all of our drives in the first half.”
Which is odd because he's had plenty of between-the-tackles runs in this streak he's been on. I'm guessing McVay doesn't believe in the sample size.That article to me reads like McVay doesn’t see Henderson as someone who can run “downhill” between the tackles. If that’s true, he’ll only be used in specific game scripts where he thinks the defenses will give them the outside.
Or McVay isn't as smart as we think?Which is odd because he's had plenty of between-the-tackles runs in this streak he's been on. I'm guessing McVay doesn't believe in the sample size.
As infuriating as the situation was I'm not ready to say that but I do think he is guilty of overthinking it in this case.Or McVay isn't as smart as we think?
Most of Henderson's impressive runs against the Bills were not outside the tackles, they were straight up the middle. So McVay's thoughts are somewhat interesting, but this reporter's not so much.RamsWire: Sean McVay explains RB rotation, lack of touches for Darrell Henderson vs. Giants
Based on McVay’s comments, it sounds like the Giants took away the Rams’ outside zone runs, which the film would back up. There were some cutback lanes to be found, but nothing like the ones Henderson found last week against the Bills.
/doubt