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TRUMP TO INFINITY AND BEYOND HQ - The Great and Positive Place (13 Viewers)
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zoonation
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Wow. Just got back from 36 holes today and am catching up.
It mind blowing and sad that the trump supporters in this thread will not acknowledge his overtly racist tweets today. They are racist on their face.
I will happily recant and apologize when trump attacks a white congressperson by telling them to go back to the country they came from.
The reason no one is getting suspended is not because of some conspiracy favouring liberal (or non-Trump) posters. It is because the tweets are, in fact, racist. It’s not even debatable. The “context” of the tweets only reinforces how racist they are.
It mind blowing and sad that the trump supporters in this thread will not acknowledge his overtly racist tweets today. They are racist on their face.
I will happily recant and apologize when trump attacks a white congressperson by telling them to go back to the country they came from.
The reason no one is getting suspended is not because of some conspiracy favouring liberal (or non-Trump) posters. It is because the tweets are, in fact, racist. It’s not even debatable. The “context” of the tweets only reinforces how racist they are.
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timschochet
Footballguy
Not only is this 100% true, the failure of Trump supporters to acknowledge his racism here is being mirrored by Republicans all over the country, including the cowards in Congress:
https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/07/14/politics/trump-racist-tweets-progressive-democratic-congresswomen-aoc/index.html?r=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2F
For the sake of our nation I hope the voters punish them. If they don’t we will have hit a watershed moment in a bad way.
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cheese
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This is getting ridiculous. I am extremely conservative and disagree with dems on nearly every issue, but at some point I’d rather have someone in the office that has different policy viewpoints than someone this hateful and confrontational. There are reasons to be tough on immigration and be the bad guy, but when he makes it so obvious that he LOVES that role, it makes it hard to know what is a necessary evil and what isn’t.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Thanks for the response.
>>Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came.<<
He specifically referred to Progressive Democratic Congresswomen, plural.
It *sounds like you’re saying, like Birds, that Trump is ‘dumb’. The man has a vast reserve of information at his access. Ocasio-Cortez was born in the neighboring borough, maybe even a couple miles from where he was born to an immigrant mother himself. To accept your argument, and fine say you do, you must accept he is ignorant on a wide array of other subjects when he talks.
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Widbil83
Footballguy
Imagine actually thinking Trump could lose to this party in 2020.
https://twitter.com/realsaavedra/status/1150540900432396288?s=21
dozer
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Coming from the people who still reference Hillary's e-mails
But really, he's not rehashing these items to bring them to light - he's simply pointing out the hypocrisy, which you seem to have completely missed. This was his point:
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Trump did do better in these states. This is arguably a false positive though. Trump did not fight back in the way of denying it, he fought back in the way of engaging in it. Trump's fighting back - aka lying, distorting, overall making stuff up - certainly didn't result in people disbelieving the stuff said about him. Quite the opposite, it got people who acknowledged these things to vote for him anyway. What is the ultimate conclusion here then? With Romney, the accusations of racism and sexism, it was false but overall and almost always with Trump it was true. Arguably Romney's 'fault' was in refusing to engage in it while Trump's advantage was in doing so full throttle, as he still is. 'Fighting back' is a cute euphemism for all this.rockaction said:
rockaction
Footballguy
I think the worst part of this is that many a good man has been ruined by unfair charges like this, and the grand master of them all gets away with it by pointing that out.
Truly sad.
It is sad, but not mind blowing. I'm not sure why anybody is surprised at this point.
timschochet
Footballguy
It’s not going to work.
If a normal Republican (pick nearly any one of your major figures prior to 2015) were President, them maybe you could get away with this “look how extreme the Democrats have become!” meme. But with the guy you’re supporting it won’t work.
James Daulton
Footballguy
Only Trump's base buys into the Trump propaganda regarding socialism and extreme left views. The dems just need to sit down and put forth a plan that's humanitarian yet doesn't support open borders and free healthcare for illegals. If dems continue to push this position we lose in 2020. Any kind of reasonable, well thought out, humane plan that maintains the integrity of the borders while not shutting off the US from brown people will be light years better than anything the racist (my opinion) currently inhabiting the oval office will propose.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
When I say he was dumb I mean there was a much better way to say what he was trying to say. There was no reason to phrase it that way because it only gave ammo for the folks that already think he is a racist. He was trying to make a point on policy in the U.S. versus other countries.
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timschochet
Footballguy
Agree to an extent, but I’m not fully convinced that supporting free healthcare for undocumented people will lose (no candidate supports “open borders”; that’s a meaningless term.) It will certainly hurt the Democrats. But I don’t think it’s a death blow by any means.
Last time around there was a flaw in the polling because a lot of people who intended to vote for Trump wouldn’t tell the pollsters. This time around I think we may see the opposite effect: a lot of Republicans who claim to be loyal to Trump are going to vote for the Democrat instead. They’ve had enough.
Zow
Footballguy
@HellToupee if this got answered I missed it. As one who is a registered republican, and who agrees that Trump is a dummy, I want to know why I’m so much in the minority of the right of center that is begging for a respectable and decent candidate to primary the guy who is taking the Republican Party in a horrible direction.Zow said:
rockaction
Footballguy
tim, I respectfully and vehemently disagree. If he's lost anybody, it's the WWC in the Rust Belt.
rockaction
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
Trump doubling down right now.
timschochet
Footballguy
“They’re to free to leave if they want.”
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Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
“These are people that hate our country! They love al qaeda!”
timschochet
Footballguy
timschochet
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knowledge dropper
Footballguy
I’d like to thank all those that checked in to 
and 
over the weekend. You helped push the Pro-Trump thread over 50 pages in less than a month.
Granted we are not growing at the pace of the Trump-hate and Russian farce thread, but it’s still a feat to be celebrated.
and over the weekend. You helped push the Pro-Trump thread over 50 pages in less than a month. Granted we are not growing at the pace of the Trump-hate and Russian farce thread, but it’s still a feat to be celebrated.
cosjobs
Footballguy
timschochet
Footballguy
The tweets yesterday and the diatribe just now feels different to me. Even more than Charlottesville, for the first time Trump seems to be openly embracing white nationalism (rather than implicitly embracing it.)
No doubt his base will love it. But let’s see how the public reacts in general.
No doubt his base will love it. But let’s see how the public reacts in general.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
My feeling on this is that as dumb and horrible Trump is, each day he has to make it dumber and more horrible, so each day is dumber and more horrible than the day before. And so on.
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SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Will Hurd has been a steadfast defender of Trump on the GOP side of the Nunes led House Intel Committee.
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timschochet
Footballguy
You and I know it. But you don't think these new statements are the most explicit yet? (At least, IMO, since he's actually been President.)
badmojo1006
Footballguy
You sound like Trump, talking about the size of his...I’d like to thank all those that checked in to
Granted we are not growing at the pace of the Trump-hate and Russian farce thread, but it’s still a feat to be celebrated.
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Widbil83
Footballguy
How many times do we have to go over this? Trump hate isn’t enough to win the Democrats the election in 2020. And lucky for Trump, the Democrat Presidential field is pathetically weak and the party is completely imploding.
sho nuff
Footballguy
True...which is why the candidates are talking about more than just Trump hate. Actual proposals about healthcare and immigration. The field is not weak...but you know that too.
Widbil83
Footballguy
Wait, what!? Why would this change at all? In fact it has actually gotten worse since last time with Democrats harassing anybody who disagrees with them. It’s basically the jonmax argument and why he left (rip good buddy), normal people don’t want to put up with the crap the left throws around. It’s why so few people that post here challenge anything from Team D. They have better things to do with their lives.
The General
Footballguy
The General
Footballguy
Where is Trump telling the 3 women who were born here that he’s lumping in with Omar to go?
Widbil83
Footballguy
Oh I know, and the Democrats showed their true colors in the first debate. Gonna be quite a campaign ad next year with all those Democrat Presidential candidate hands going up in the air in support of free healthcare for illegals.
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Footballguy
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
How do you feel about one of these 4 congresswoman who said she would impeach the mother ####er on day 1? Would you agree she is a terrible person?zoonation said:
The General
Footballguy
Trump when asked today by someone in the press pool how felt about white power groups using his “go back where you came from” message as affirmation his first response was “well a lot of people agree with me”.
Guy never misses an opportunity to prove he’s an embarrassment.
Guy never misses an opportunity to prove he’s an embarrassment.
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