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RB Jonathan Taylor, IND (3 Viewers)
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JohnnyU
Footballguy
There are enough touches for both Taylor and Mack to be fantasy relevant IMO. Having said that, one cannot expect it NOT to affect both in fantasy. Plan accordingly.
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creepythinman
Footballguy
Could be that kind of situation for sure. Personally, I see Mack as a very middling talent and think the situation is closer to somewhere in between Adrian Peterson/Chester Taylor and Nick Chubb/Carlos Hyde.
Manster
Footballguy
Mack is a really good athlete. He's a bit more shifty, and not the downhill runner Taylor is. So they bring a different skillset to the table......where Taylor may shine is his history as a workhorse, bruiser at a place like wisky where they pound the rock.
The Colts are going to run the rock down people's throats......kinda like wisky does. They ran the ball 30 times a game last season. There should be enough touches for both guys. I could see Taylor becoming the workhorse while Mack spells him enough to be a weekly flex or RB 3 play.....but who knows really cuz we had no preseason....it's all big speculation!
The Colts are going to run the rock down people's throats......kinda like wisky does. They ran the ball 30 times a game last season. There should be enough touches for both guys. I could see Taylor becoming the workhorse while Mack spells him enough to be a weekly flex or RB 3 play.....but who knows really cuz we had no preseason....it's all big speculation!
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Stoneworker
Footballguy
Ah. Thanks for pointing this one out.
I was struggling to remember a recent situation that took much longer for the rookie to take over than the talent discrepancy implied. That was it. Game 7 before Hyde was traded and Chubb took over.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Not that he’s as good as Taylor but the Lions we’re reluctant to give Kerryon a big workload over Blount. Ditto with Miles Sanders and Jordan Howard.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Polish Hammer
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barackdhouse
Footballguy
Lol we'll see
creepythinman
Footballguy
If that was actually the case, Indianapolis should have just used Jordan Wilkins and his 6 yds/carry or kept Jonathan Williams and his 2 straight 100 yard games after Mack's injury rather than trade up in the second round for Taylor.
voiceofunreason
Footballguy
I'm starting both of them. I would expect one or the other to have a huge game, too early in the season to guess which one.
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Tanner9919
Footballguy
with his repeated fumbleitis , it's hard to envision him fixing it overnight, ESPECIALLY from a training camp without preseason games. 18 fumbles in 3 seasons at Wisco, SIX of them coming last season. IT's going to be a rocky road in year one. Mack isn't going to just disappear , he's going to be a huge factor all season long.
I remember another big Wisco RB everyone fawned over, what's his name? oh yeah, Ron Dayne.
I remember another big Wisco RB everyone fawned over, what's his name? oh yeah, Ron Dayne.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
I'll never get this criticism.
That's like not taking Saquon Barkley because of DJ Dozier or Curtis Enis.
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He also touched the ball a ton. His per touch rate is still poor but the volume does make it a bit easier to stomach. Early season fumbles killing his opportunity remain my biggest concern.
creepythinman
Footballguy
Not to mention he had to go back 20 years for Ron Dayne when there's been Montee Ball, James White, and Melvin Gordon inside of this decade.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
It occasionally carries over, but the majority of the time these fumble problems do indeed disappear overnight when a guy enters the NFL.
Maybe the shortened off-season will change that, but it's a pretty easy coaching fix and I think the skinnier ball shape in the NFL helps too.
Sanders, Cook, Mixon, and Michel were all terrible fumblers in college and none of them have had it impact their playing time in the NFL.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
Rivers has his Woodhead. Oh well.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
I don't know how I missed this one. I was so focused on scooping up Doyle everywhere because Rivers loves his TEs I somehow didn't even consider that he loves throwing to his RBs even more. Kind of surprising that Hines didn't have any hype this offseason with the way Rivers targets RBs, I guess it snuck up on all of us.
rockaction
Footballguy
HInes had total hype if you follow FBGs on Twitter. Not to contradict you, but I was aware through them.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I definitely called out Hines as a big problem for Taylor owners. The colts love him & Rivers is check-down Charlie.
that said, things do change - everyone who drafted Taylor was targeting a week 3-4 takeover. I remain skeptical, but I wish y’all luck.
that said, things do change - everyone who drafted Taylor was targeting a week 3-4 takeover. I remain skeptical, but I wish y’all luck.
VikingFrog
Footballguy
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FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Yeah fair. I mostly meant message board hype and more importantly league hype. Not many people rushing to pick him up or draft him in drafts that included vets. Still on the waiver wire in a lot of leagues without large rosters. Not really much momentum for him on the forum, etc. Thinking back now I'm surprised there wasn't a bunch of hype for him being the next Ekeler.
Mostly just kicking myself for not taking a flyer on him when it seemed like such an obvious flyer.
rockaction
Footballguy
Yeah, I was aware he was, in their words, all over the practice field, but I picked him up nowhere, either.
creepythinman
Footballguy
Layman's analysis is that Mack tore his achilles
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
JoeSteeler
Footballguy
Yesterday traded a late 2021 3rd for Hines, could pay off nicely.
FreeBaGeL
Footballguy
Just saw the replay. He got up immediately and limped off the field. I know that happens sometimes with major injuries like torn ACLs but correct me if I'm wrong aren't achilles tears typically EXTREMELY painful injuries that leave the guy unable to put any weight at all on it?
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I’ve been operating on the same assumption. In the only league where I drafted Taylor I was sure to retain Hines (carried him over from previous season). I also tried to get him in FA drafts (only succeeded in one). I think Hines was always going to siphon a lot of the receiving work. But maybe there’s a little extra in his role. Of course if Mack misses a lot of time Taylor and Hines could both be really valuable in that offense
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
creepythinman
Footballguy
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah - if he put weight on it it’s not an Achilles. I didn’t see it, so I have no idea, but from descriptions it just doesn’t match.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
they just called it a “sprained ankle” on the broadcast.
creepythinman
Footballguy
The #Colts fear that RB Marlon Mack has a torn Achilles, sources tell me and @MikeGarafolo.
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
smbkrypt24
Footballguy
JohnnyU
Footballguy
Yes and people posting in the injury thread as if it is a fact. Fear not equal fact. He may ver well have torn it, but some guy on Twitter saying he fears a tear doesn’t make it so.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Like I said, I didn’t see the play but that description usually doesn’t match Achilles. He must have been “limping” very lightly.
On air they called it a sprained ankle a second after I posted this.
