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Issues with Elizabeth Warren and Her Lies (1 Viewer)
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OrtonToOlsen
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If it’s the story about her lying about getting fired for being pregnant it’s another manufactured controversy from the Right.
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[scooter]
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General Malaise
Footballguy
Yup. And despite that, garbage like this gets traction because people just can't avoid the pathetic bait.
A pretty poor job, too
This forum should be discarded. It's a cess pool of wasted thought and time.
Ramblin Wreck
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randall146
Footballguy
No need to debate whether or not she’s a liar. If you think she is, and that makes you prefer another Dem in the primary, vote for your preference.
But if she gets the nomination and you believe she’s a liar, you still have to compare her to Trump, who tells worse lies every day.
There are reasons to prefer Trump to Warren, but lying isn’t one of them. If you claim her supposed lies are even a small part of what cause you to prefer Trump, then you are a liar and/or a troll.
But if she gets the nomination and you believe she’s a liar, you still have to compare her to Trump, who tells worse lies every day.
There are reasons to prefer Trump to Warren, but lying isn’t one of them. If you claim her supposed lies are even a small part of what cause you to prefer Trump, then you are a liar and/or a troll.
Thunderlips
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sho nuff
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Nope...but hers pale in comparison to what Trump has done and you have seemingly given hom a pass on all of it.
So Warren gets a free pass on her blatant falsehoods?
Ramblin Wreck
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Thunderlips
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The Commish
Footballguy
Looks like we're getting a glimpse into the future where "a lie is a lie" (or whichever transgression you want to pick) becomes the standard for those who did their best to make things as gray as possible for their "side". It will be a time where "whataboutism" is claimed when it's really hypocrisy being pointed out....not of the politicians (that's a given anymore), rather those who support them. It will be a time where we pretend lying about national security issues is on the same level as lying about a toothache. It's going to be good times for sure.
Summer Wheat
Footballguy
I am not MAGA but concerned now that the bar is so low we will accept a lesser liar as moving the bar up a little. I am with Pete, Warren seems too phony and Pete seems like the real deal. Not counting Sleepy Joe out yet either if this Ukraine-son thingy blows over.
[scooter]
Footballguy
How many lesser lies from Pete are you willing to accept before you move on to the next candidate?
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
The whataboutisms for Trump are a deflection right now. She's not running against Trump she's running against a half dozen to dozen other democrats. People that do support her at this point are okay with her numerous lies and it has zero to do with Trump. There are better candidates on the Democrat side support them. Don't point the finger at Trump to justify your support of someone else
OrtonToOlsen
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Apple Jack
Footballguy
One thing I never knew about his boast on 9/11 that he now had the tallest building downtown; that was a lie.
The Commish
Footballguy
I thought I was pretty clear that I was talking about the future and what is absolutely coming. Am I supposed to believe that the person who started this thread and the person who labeled her lies as "appalling" are being genuine in their concern here? Am I supposed to take their comments seriously after the last three years of Trump defending and all his lies? Sorry, that's a bit beyond the pale for me. There's legit discussion that's happened in her thread discussing how her lies would/should impact her.
Finally, I don't see a single post in here justifying her lying because Trump does. There's a ton of posts regarding Trump supporters and their "concern" with her lying. That's not whataboutism, that's pointing out hypocrisy. As one who's said several times, including now that I am not a fan of Warren's lying about these stupid things, I agree with the sentiment that you brought up in an earlier post that people should be consistent. That includes those feigning outrage over her lies all the while supporting Trump to the death.
msommer
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Ah, but they don't actually support Trump. they merely attack those who oppose him. And voted "Gary Johnson"
TripItUp
Footballguy
This thread would be better if somebody could identify some specific statements by Warren that are established (or at least alleged) lies.
TripItUp
Footballguy
We can start with this pathetic mistruth.
Misrepresenting Native American ancestry for political gain is disgusting and disqualifies her for the Presidency as far as I’m concerned.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
How does it compare to the level of disgust you have for the current occupant of the Presidency?
TripItUp
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OrtonToOlsen
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[scooter]
Footballguy
That was neither a lie nor a mistruth.
She never claimed to be full-blooded Native American.
timschochet
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Summer Wheat
Footballguy
It does look like Warren made more than a few mistakes lying about her heritage though. Makes no sense as to why she would do that.
To me it is not about Warren vs Trump. It is Warren vs her Democratic opponents. And who I will vote for.
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[scooter]
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I think it's fair to say that Warren made more than a few mistakes regarding her heritage.
But I've yet to see an example of her telling a lie about it.
sho nuff
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yet none of his lies have disqualified him. Thats the point.
And we have a thread about her...where her heritage has been discussed
Max Power
Footballguy
I think they proved the story of her parents having to elope because her paternal grandparents were racists wasn't true.
Apple Jack
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[scooter]
Footballguy
I agree that the story isn't true, but it's not really a lie to say "My parents told me that they had to elope."
msommer
Footballguy
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
As George Costanza said:
“It’s not a lie, if you believe it.”
“It’s not a lie, if you believe it.”
Ramblin Wreck
Footballguy
She misrepresented her heritage but did not tell a lie? 
sho nuff
Footballguy
Exactly. Up until recently, I had always told people i was mostly German with some polish and Russian mixed in. Because that is what had been passed down to us through family. It wasnt until my brother in law (who is inti geneology) has finished his family and his wife’s (my wife’s sister) family that he worked some on mine and confirmed much of what i had been told.
people pass down stories. Not all are fully true and may contain hyperbole .
To quibble over that...when there is nothing really to show she tried gaining any advantage over it...while ignoring the big stuff of others is ridiculous.
knowledge dropper
Footballguy
Did you check all those on a job application or a bar license?
Russian? Interesting....
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yes my great grandmother had a tiny slice of Russian...Prussian...Bohemian.Did you check all those on a job application or a bar license?
the moops
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Godsbrother
Footballguy
It would be a shame to have a habitual liar in the White House. I hope that never happens.
roadkill1292
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And the reason for that, in contrast to this milquetoast excuse of a thread, is because the president can't open his mouth without a new lie emerging from it. Get back to us when Warren, or any other Dem candidate approaches the sheer volume of TrumpLies in a single week.
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