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*****Official Trump 2020 State Of The Union Thread***** (2 Viewers)
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sho nuff
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Given the contents of the Mueller report...there was plenty of smoke there. Nothing close to the level of framed.
glvsav37
Footballguy
just for ####s and giggles, I looked up past SOTU addresses on youtube.
In 2017 He did shake Paul Ryan and Pence's Hands
in 2018 He did not shake either's hands (and neither offered)
in 2019: He shook both Pelosi and Pense's Hands (NP seemed much more jovial in the exchange)
2020: Did not shake either hand, did not even offer to Pence
In 2017 He did shake Paul Ryan and Pence's Hands
in 2018 He did not shake either's hands (and neither offered)
in 2019: He shook both Pelosi and Pense's Hands (NP seemed much more jovial in the exchange)
2020: Did not shake either hand, did not even offer to Pence
hagmania
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You're being trolled into looking silly. Literally no one is going to care one way or the other. Everything that comes from the White House is a smokescreen. REMEMBER: confusion is the currency of wolves.
Stay focused imo.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
I remember this. He doesn’t really know the protocol but that explains a fair amount of his behavior.
Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
In my city that would have been in violation of laws pertaining to document retention.
Kyle Griffin @kylegriffin1 10m10 minutes ago
Here's the video, via CSPAN, of Pelosi tearing up Trump's speech.
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1224899210207727616
I think it is exactly what she wanted. It appeared very calculated for the cameras. She is too politically shrewd and experienced to fly off the handle.
squistion
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A copy of a speech distributed to every member of Congress and the press has to be retained for document retention?
Zow
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I don't think it's a bad piece of legislation. It's aptly named "first step" but it's not a bad first step. It may impact <1% of people incarcerated.
My issue is with his statement that he has "completely reformed" or whatever. That's a very gross overstatement.
Zow
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Ditkaless Wonders
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Zow
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NREC34
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I think she felt like she needed to do it after the handshake deal. She didn’t want everyone talking about that. She only made it worse though.
jm192
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Deflect deflect deflect.
It was a bad move by Pelosi. And you're so consumed with Trump hate, you can't just acknowledge and move on. Nope, gotta point out something else.
squistion
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Sam Quentin
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Yeah. I can see that too. She had a pretty strong reaction to the apparent handshake spurn and could have been stewing all speech long.
Yes, then we elected him president. Then we couldn't get over that fact and can't stop saying hes the problem. See the cycle here?
TLEF316
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Not a Trump fan by any means, but its pretty scary how easily he was able to basically troll Pelosi and the Democrats into looking like fools.
Everyone expected him to use tonight as a victory lap with the upcoming acquittal but he didn't. We all know what he's thinking and what he WANTS to say, (basically "nah nah nah nah naaaaaaaaaah naaaaaaah") but he held back. I think parts of the speech (the exploitation of victims) were disgusting and I dont believe for a second that all the great numbers (unemployment) are the result of things he's done, but he gave the most hopeful and non divisive speech that Donald Trump is capable of giving (a low bar, obviously)
Pelosi somehow managed to make Donald Trump look like the adult in the room with her stupid facial expressions and the speech ripping. AOC (who, like it or not, is one of the faces of the democratic party) gave her best effort to make it about her (basically reinforcing every millennial stereotype possible, and this is coming from someone who is, unfortunately, technically a millennial) and every single high ranking democrat caught on camera was making some stupid face or some other sort of gesture/body language that made them look like pouting children.
Don't get me wrong......I personally think Trump should be removed from office (although I'll admit I'm not 100% up on ALL the details) and I think that the Republican Senate has acted in a disgusting manner (and they'll be judged accordingly, hopefully some of them in November) to muck up the process and make a real trial impossible.
But at this point...if you're a democrat....you've lost the battle (unfairly, IMO, but it is what it is) . It's over. So suck it up, show some maturity/leadership and win the war. It's really not that complicated and its absolutely baffling that these people, who are supposed to be the best of us (in theory anyway) dont get that.
Everyone expected him to use tonight as a victory lap with the upcoming acquittal but he didn't. We all know what he's thinking and what he WANTS to say, (basically "nah nah nah nah naaaaaaaaaah naaaaaaah") but he held back. I think parts of the speech (the exploitation of victims) were disgusting and I dont believe for a second that all the great numbers (unemployment) are the result of things he's done, but he gave the most hopeful and non divisive speech that Donald Trump is capable of giving (a low bar, obviously)
Pelosi somehow managed to make Donald Trump look like the adult in the room with her stupid facial expressions and the speech ripping. AOC (who, like it or not, is one of the faces of the democratic party) gave her best effort to make it about her (basically reinforcing every millennial stereotype possible, and this is coming from someone who is, unfortunately, technically a millennial) and every single high ranking democrat caught on camera was making some stupid face or some other sort of gesture/body language that made them look like pouting children.
Don't get me wrong......I personally think Trump should be removed from office (although I'll admit I'm not 100% up on ALL the details) and I think that the Republican Senate has acted in a disgusting manner (and they'll be judged accordingly, hopefully some of them in November) to muck up the process and make a real trial impossible.
But at this point...if you're a democrat....you've lost the battle (unfairly, IMO, but it is what it is) . It's over. So suck it up, show some maturity/leadership and win the war. It's really not that complicated and its absolutely baffling that these people, who are supposed to be the best of us (in theory anyway) dont get that.
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Sure, but see the trend tho? Dems been trying to cause a turn over so long to change the momentum, but, they can't get out of their own way and it's the 4th quarter. Unless Mayor Pete is Parick Mahomes they in trouble.
Ditkaless Wonders
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We presume, but do not know that her copy was the same as all the others. It might have contained different provisions or even a hand written notation. A document submitted to the presiding officer, on the dais, during a public meeting would be a document subject to filing and retention.
I am not suggesting anything here. It was just a matter that caught my attention given my employment responsibilities currently. An insubstantial aside. A point of insignificant interest, probably only for the most nebbishy of persons. Besides, she did not burn it. It remained on the dais as far as I could tell.
Ditkaless Wonders
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Refresh yourself for a few moments after a long day before going under harsh T.V. lighting.
Zow
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Smack Tripper
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Ditkaless Wonders
Footballguy
I thought otherwise, but O.K. For his sake he should know that the look he is going for requires more than a single days worth of growth. Should maintain it a bit longer.
Zegras11
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When I moved to Idaho almost ten years ago, it was one of four states that had a law to protect pre-exisiting conditions. Well before Obamacare. So it can easily be done. Removing Obamacare doesn't mean Pre-exisiting has to be eliminated.
encaitar
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Destruction of government documents is illegal and subject to fines and up to three years in prison. If hers was an "official" document given to the House to be kept on file, she could very well see a lot of problems arising from this(and republicans would love that).
However, I think it'll probably be called a copy of the official document and therefore not subject to the same statute governing that document's destruction.
AAABatteries
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Completely unfair to twist what Bernie would do like that. I have no doubt he would try to change foreign policy to match his beliefs but he would honor current commitments. Come on Tim.timschochet said:
Punxsutawney Phil
Footballguy
Pretty spot on post. I think the Democratic party shifted from "the best of us" to political cronyism. Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden had so much baggage but it was like it was "their turn". If the Democratic party wasn't so joined at the hip to the Clinton's the 8 year Trump disaster would have never happened. Let's not fool ourselves, none of these candidates have a chance.TLEF316 said:
It may have been calculated the entire time she sat there listening to his speech, but I don't think it was planned when she got there. I think when she tried showing class and shaking his hand and when he snubbed her, she probably wanted to spit in his face. As she sat there listening to lie after lie, combined with the snubbing, she knew she decided she was tearing it up as soon as it was over.PhantomJB said:
IvanKaramazov
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If Trump can make Nancy Pelosi look like a child having a temper tantrum, imagine what he'd do to Elizabeth Warren.
MAC_32
Footballguy
His whole goal is to bring you down to his level. Be above it or reap what you sow.
That one guy
Footballguy
Hasn’t she, Pelosi, always had a bit of petty showmanship about her over the years?
jamny
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Zow
Footballguy
You’re naive if you think Trump hasn’t done similarly unprofessional things.
But that was the point of last night. Pelosi was very unprofessional and distasteful. She had to have soured those in the 10% that are at least tired of Trump’s embarrassing antics too.
E Street Brat
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apalmer
Footballguy
Oh please. She ripped up a speech chocked full of lies. The fact that there may have been one or two actual decent parts in it is irrelevant.
Trump snubbed her handshake so she ripped up the speech. Nancy has never once cowered to Trump and his bullying and she didn't last night. Good for her.
Can you believe security threw the father of a child killed during the Parkland shootings out of the chamber last night. They are terrible people.
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