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🐘 🐴 2020 Presidential Debates thread - 2nd Debate October 15 (1 Viewer)
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massraider
Footballguy
I didn't think it was a win for Biden, as another debate would simply be more of the same from Trump, and that was good.
So I was a bit disappointed that Trump was taking his ball and going home.
But Trump showed that I underestimated him, by announcing he would do a rally, and then go on Fox this morning, and call Kamala a communist.
It's amazing. Historians will be studying this political implosion for decades.
Ignoratio Elenchi
Footballguy
I'd be interested to know what he thinks debating is all about.
(Kidding, of course, I don't actually care what he thinks.)
Widbil83
Footballguy
This is a townhall event that isn’t packed with hand picked Biden supporters and pre scripted questions like his NBC one last week, so no they won’t be having Biden “show up.”
Best for Trump to take his ball and go home with that format anyway; he'd get crushed --can't berate and interrupt town hall folk
Terminalxylem
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Widbil83
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The Commish
Footballguy
It's funny how things have flipped in literally a couple weeks. I'm old enough to remember when the narrative was "if you don't show up to the debate it means you're mentally incompetent and lack the mental fortitude to go one on one" 
The creators of Seinfeld couldn't manufacture the comedy we're seeing these days.
The creators of Seinfeld couldn't manufacture the comedy we're seeing these days.
Widbil83
Footballguy
Biden berates 80 year old farmer in December at townhall-
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xhcsQ8PZy5M
Biden calls young woman a lying dog-faced pony soldier in February at townhall-
https://mobile.twitter.com/reuters/status/1226737558257750016?lang=en
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xhcsQ8PZy5M
Biden calls young woman a lying dog-faced pony soldier in February at townhall-
https://mobile.twitter.com/reuters/status/1226737558257750016?lang=en
massraider
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Should Trump hold a rally instead of a virtual debate, would any network other than Fox carry it? He might rile up a few thousand attendees, but how would any of this strategy net him more votes? If I were undecided, on the fence about Biden, or an independent trying to figure out who to vote for, do they really think they are going to attract enough people to swing the election?
The GOP will get slammed for Trump going out to a rally while possibly still infected, ignoring protocols, most likely not wearing masks, and refusing to take part in the debate. That seems like a lot to overcome just to break even on the night, let alone gain voters.
The GOP will get slammed for Trump going out to a rally while possibly still infected, ignoring protocols, most likely not wearing masks, and refusing to take part in the debate. That seems like a lot to overcome just to break even on the night, let alone gain voters.
Widbil83
Footballguy
Baseless conspiracy? Of course you guys here don’t know any of this. Should have known.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2020/10/07/undecided-voters-at-nbc-town-hall-were-joe-biden-supporters/amp/
sho nuff
Footballguy
Yes, I laughed at this because yes its the definition of a baseless conspiracy. Tabloid news man.
Widbil83
Footballguy
Tabloid news doing the work the MSM refuses to do. Probably fake interviews in August on MSNBC!
Grace Under Pressure
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BobbyLayne
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H Jass
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I know its just a small thing as there are huge things with this administration day after day after day. But can anyone read this official campaign statement and not feel like these are the biggest unprofessional simps around? Seriously, how does this stuff pass muster? This is the official campaign statement and reads like an angry 8th grader wrote it.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/trump-campaign-statement-on-unilateral-decision-of-the-commission-on-presidential-debates/
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/media/trump-campaign-statement-on-unilateral-decision-of-the-commission-on-presidential-debates/
massraider
Footballguy
Steve Tasker
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The Commish
Footballguy
One hundred grand or so....
[Supporter]
smart business guy though because he was willing to pay millions
[/Supporter]
tri-man 47
Footballguy
massraider
Footballguy
Virtual rally, check.
Virtual debate? Nope, we have to move BOTH dates.
https://twitter.com/KellyO/status/1314241133791391745/photo/1
Bill Stepien certainly has gotten the hang of this campaign manager talk.
massraider
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
If you mean getting Trump involved, maybe he can find a tight Senate race in a state to host a rally that might push a Senate candidate into the lead, but at that point DJT might be just taking one for the team. I did see a couple of articles pondering some of the same things I was wondering about. Trump would be crazy to forgo 65-70 million debate viewers on multiple networks to go to a rally that won't get anywhere near the same coverage other than on Fox and Fox News. Trump needs more exposure to as many people as possible, not just his base.
If the polls are more accurate this time (certainly debatable), Trump has a lot of ground to cover to get back in the race. Biden's lead in some of the swing states is larger and he is competitive in more of those states than Clinton was. IMO, there are also likely a lot fewer people that are undecided voters to capture this late in the game than in 2016. Also, there wasn't a pandemic or a recently infected candidate as major obstacles now vs. then.
IvanKaramazov
Footballguy
You're right of course. But what if -- I know this sounds crazy but hear me out here -- Trump just isn't that good at politics? I'm starting to suspect that this Trump fellow may be less than completely competent at his job.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
I think that he doesn't really want the job anymore and is consciously or subconsciously self-sabotaging.
Maybe casting doubt on the voting process isn't to keep power but just to have an excuse to save face after a loss.
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Chaz McNulty
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If the 2nd debate gets cancelled, Biden should insist that the 3rd debate have the same 'town hall' format. He is at a total advantage over Trump in this format - and Trump's people know it.
This could work out very well for Biden, as Trump blew his chance in the first debate and may not get another oppirtunity at it.
This could work out very well for Biden, as Trump blew his chance in the first debate and may not get another oppirtunity at it.
massraider
Footballguy
Trump camp didn't want to have plexiglass barriers, and now would like to move BOTH debates?
Biden can simply say, hey, we'll have virtual at regular dates, or you can walk away from 70 million viewers.
Then Trump camp can be the ones refusing to hold a virtual meeting, I am sure that will go over great with all the Americans doing Zoom meetings since March.
Biden can simply say, hey, we'll have virtual at regular dates, or you can walk away from 70 million viewers.
Then Trump camp can be the ones refusing to hold a virtual meeting, I am sure that will go over great with all the Americans doing Zoom meetings since March.
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Well, at least that’s a more reasonable schedule based on the suggested isolation period. Biden should move forward with the original schedule, and leave the virtual town hall invitation open to Trump.massraider said:
Terminalxylem
Footballguy
Using his legendary business acumen, I suspect he’ll declare political bankruptcy and start a new campaign.IvanKaramazov said:
massraider
Footballguy
Biden announces he'll do solo Town Hall if Trump refuses to remote set up.
Should have announced that straightaway.
Should have announced that straightaway.
The Commish
Footballguy
Where are all the "if he doesn't debate he's a loser" guys?
AAABatteries
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massraider
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Something that won't mean as much to us as women, but Mark Meadows violated GA state orders, and threw a big wedding for his daughter in May.
The story barely got coverage because of the parking lot full of burning dumpsters that is this administration, but Biden should absolutely bring it up at the Town Hall. Preferably if Trump is there to respond, because he won't care and will blow it off.
Every woman knows someone that had to cancel their wedding. I cannot imagine a Trump response that would do anything other than make them seeth.
If I'm Biden, it's all women, all the time for the next month.
The story barely got coverage because of the parking lot full of burning dumpsters that is this administration, but Biden should absolutely bring it up at the Town Hall. Preferably if Trump is there to respond, because he won't care and will blow it off.
Every woman knows someone that had to cancel their wedding. I cannot imagine a Trump response that would do anything other than make them seeth.
If I'm Biden, it's all women, all the time for the next month.
massraider
Footballguy
The Trump campaign has issued its third statement of the day on the debates, arguing that because of Dr. Conley's letter saying President Trump can return to public engagements Saturday, the debate should proceed as planned Thursday. Still no word on if Trump has tested negative.
squistion
Footballguy
NPR @NPR 6m
NEW:
The Trump campaign is calling for next week's presidential debate to be held in person in Miami — despite the organizing commission's decision to hold it virtually "to protect the health and safety of all involved."
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/08/921538492/second-presidential-debate-to-be-virtual-commission-says?utm_term=nprnews&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social
NEW:
The Trump campaign is calling for next week's presidential debate to be held in person in Miami — despite the organizing commission's decision to hold it virtually "to protect the health and safety of all involved."
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/08/921538492/second-presidential-debate-to-be-virtual-commission-says?utm_term=nprnews&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
Awfully anxious to get in the same room as Biden ASAP for some reason, huh.
massraider
Footballguy
He can still change his mind. About to go on Hannity.
I'm watching so you don't have to. Mark Levin currently screaming, and waving the Constitution around.
Chicago Hooligan
Footballguy
HellToupee
Footballguy
The moderator needs to be replaced
Widbil83
Footballguy
Imagine how many threads there would be right now if this was the other way around. Holy ####.
Yashar Ali@yashar
Steve is the moderator of the next presidential debate and he thinks he's DMing Scaramucci...but he's tweeting @ him. “Should I respond to Trump?”
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1314391345994194945?s=21
AAABatteries
Footballguy
HT - no schtick here. What is your interpretation of that tweet? I’ve read it a few times but I truly don’t understand what it means.
There’s probably no doubt he hates Trump.
KarmaPolice
Footballguy
squistion
Footballguy
I don't get what the excitement is all about. Trump called him an never-Trumper, so he asks someone who worked for Trump whether he should respond to that or ignore it.
HellToupee
Footballguy
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