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I had absolutely no idea about Loggia's conduct.I would imagine that if you were a bald, homely man in your 70's, that you would be enthusiastic about any acting role, let alone one of the greatest shows in history, but I guess Mr. Loggia didn't see it that way. Too bad.
I don't care if he was a pain in the ###. Feech is definitely one of my favorite characters ever on the show.Feech: What's yours is your Pauly, but what ain't, belongs to anybody else.Encyclopedia Brown said:
I think Chase probably meant he had a good idea of what he was going to do with Tony's character from the start, as well as maybe a lot of the other regulars, but in the case of Frank Vincent, he does the mob guy role just fine. No, he isn't a great actor by any stretch of the imagination, but he did the role of Phil just fine, and he did flash moments of really good acting at times, like at the end of "Stage 5" when he declares to Butch that he is done being passive. Burt Young was the classic case of a character who was awesome for one episode, but too much of that character coughing up a storm probably would have been too much.Encyclopedia Brown said:
He did state that Tony and Livia would have mended fences had she not died. I would have liked to see that.
Yeah, the death of Nancy Marchand really changed the series. Season 3, more than any other season, would have been much different.He did state that Tony and Livia would have mended fences had she not died. I would have liked to see that.
Oh, and to go one further:
LTP @ WikiI know I'm in the minority, but I liked "Test Dream" better from that season. Incredibly well done episode.
It sounds like something he wanted to do himself. Found this from an interview with him:You dropped a ton of weight dieting a few years back. How hard has it been to keep off those pounds?I was thin. I was a ballplayer, opened a restaurant, and stopped going to the gym. By season six, I was in tremendous pain. My hips were shot from playing hockey, heredity, and whatever. As soon as I finished the show, I had double-hip replacement surgery. Now, I play racquet ball. I’m feeling great actually. But, it’s a constant battle.
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Was it the "'Remember when' is the lowest form of conversation" line?
Fixed.
I agree with most of that. Killing off Ritchie Aprile was a huge mistake. Ritchie should have lived at least another full season. That would have been good dramatic fodder.
The overall consistency definitely tailed off a tad after the first two seasons, but those first two seasons were possibly the best two seasons of television ever, and many of their best moments and best episodes came later on, so I will forgive them for the occasional meh episode (except for maybe the terrible In Camelot). I couldn't agree more about Junior. He was basically either under House Arrest or in the psychiatric ward for five of the show's six seasons. And sure, him being there enabled Tony to be the Boss, but I would have liked to have seen him out there, mixing it up again for a bit before he descended in the final season. And I wouldn't say Tony cut through all of the antagonists quickly. Ralphie (my second favorite character after Christopher) hung around for almost two seasons. It would have been nice to see Richie hang around longer, I agree. Tony B. was never Tony's antagonist. And Feech was basically the same thing as Richie, so there was no need to basically replay that same storyline.
Been watching those first episodes on A&E also. Absolutely amazing, amazing television. That first season plays out as good, if not better than a 4 star movie.
Keep in mind, Chase really only had one season of stories in mind when he pitched the show to NBC (and later HBO), so I'll give him a break on some boring storylines here and there. As far as Richie, I've made it clear how much I liked him. The decision to kill him off was the one I was the most pissed about.
It was great theater watching Junior and Tony mix it up before Jackie, Sr. died. "Next time, come heavy or don't come at all." And then the whole diner scene after Jackie passed. "The Sopranos have been waiting a long time to take the reigns. That's why I want it to be you, Uncle June.""This is your decision?""It is.""You speak for the captains?""I can."
Ever see him in a movie called "Angie"?It was a Geena Davis flick that came out in the mid 1990's.
Growing up in an italian family, I've always had a theory that they spend too much time on the actual food, so by the time dessert comes around, everyone says "screw it"A tad off topic, but who cares at this point.
Many times when the guys were eating pastry on the show, they would have sfogliatelle. Like when Christopher shot the kid in the foot and brought the pastry back to the Bing... there was sfogliatelle in the box. BTW, the guys on the show pronounce it SCHVOO-YA-DEL, in case you were wondering. Despite growing up with Italian grandmothers, I had never had this pastry in my life.
So I stopped at this little Italian bakery in my travels today. Place has been there for 1,000 years, and everyone raves about their pastry. So there, in front of me, was sfogliatelle. I bought a couple of them. It was just about the worst thing I've ever tasted. :X
I don't know if this particular bakery made them poorly (they were fresh and flaky, at least), or if it's just a severely overrated dessert.
Anyone a fan of these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sfogliatella
Thats my favorite pastry. That could not have been made right if you hated it, I just refuse to believe it.A tad off topic, but who cares at this point.
Many times when the guys were eating pastry on the show, they would have sfogliatelle. Like when Christopher shot the kid in the foot and brought the pastry back to the Bing... there was sfogliatelle in the box. BTW, the guys on the show pronounce it SCHVOO-YA-DEL, in case you were wondering. Despite growing up with Italian grandmothers, I had never had this pastry in my life.
So I stopped at this little Italian bakery in my travels today. Place has been there for 1,000 years, and everyone raves about their pastry. So there, in front of me, was sfogliatelle. I bought a couple of them. It was just about the worst thing I've ever tasted.
I don't know if this particular bakery made them poorly (they were fresh and flaky, at least), or if it's just a severely overrated dessert.
Anyone a fan of these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sfogliatella
I had heard that Joe Gannascoli (Vito) read about the gay mobster, and he pitched the idea to Chase to increase his storyline.
that was just one. i know the lady who wrote "mafia wife" sued because they stole alot of her ideas about her life being the wife of a mob figure.they had everything from running out of a strip club to a pork store they owned. obviously, he did not copy 100% of "real events", but Chase is so arrogant when he discusses the show and his "ideas".
Great illustration of just how bad this show got at points during the last 3-4 seasonsA&E... Artie's about to get beat up by a 120 lb. Frenchie.
I like Johnny V, but you can see why there weren't more storylines revolving around him. Not the best actor in the world.Though I love how he "talks with his hands"... but not sure if that's his acting ability, or him being himself.Great illustration of just how bad this show got at points during the last 3-4 seasonsA&E... Artie's about to get beat up by a 120 lb. Frenchie.
I couldve listened to Artie talk about food all day, but I couldve done without the Adrianna storyline, this one, and then the Bennie one which was just ridiculousI like Johnny V, but you can see why there weren't more storylines revolving around him. Not the best actor in the world.Though I love how he "talks with his hands"... but not sure if that's his acting ability, or him being himself.Great illustration of just how bad this show got at points during the last 3-4 seasonsA&E... Artie's about to get beat up by a 120 lb. Frenchie.
Very well written. And it does make a strong case that Tony is dead. Of course, if one were so inclined I think a case that Tony is alive could be made as well. One part I took exception with was: "The scene actually suggests the exact opposite, that Tony is too relaxed and too comfortable." I disagree. I think the entire scene felt uneasy and I think it was meant to represent the lack of comfort Tony had in his life and would always have. So to me, the scene could just as easily be broken down to reveal how he is still alive but will never have a life of comfort any longer.Of course, Chase could end all of this and just tell us whether Tony is dead or not. Frankly, it isn't asking for that much given the character's importance. At some point, it'd be nice if he stopped playing coy and just gave a direct answer.
I disagree. I think that episode demonstrated how Artie was affected by constantly being surrounded by mobsters, as well as being good friends with the mob boss. It made Artie feel tougher and more important than he really was, in the grand scheme of things.Great illustration of just how bad this show got at points during the last 3-4 seasonsA&E... Artie's about to get beat up by a 120 lb. Frenchie.
Nah, I would rather he not. Heck, if he was going to tell us, then he might as well have had ended the actual episode with it, instead of leaving it open-ended. And there were definitely quite a few stretches in that long explanation (in the link I posted), but a lot of it is on the money.
I just scanned the link, but I think it's the same or along the same lines as one posted shortly after airing. I agree completely that Chase should not give a definitive answer. Quite frankly, from my perspective, he already has unless you just don't want to believe it, which I didn't for awhile.
