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Chris obviously killed his writing buddy because it hit him, even in his drunken state, that he had said too much.
My take was that he killed him because he was abandoning him just like Tony, but he couldn't take out his frustration on Tony. I don't think Chris actually said anything incriminating that J.T. didn't already know, did he?
 
Please See Mine said:
Ghost Rider said:
Chris obviously killed his writing buddy because it hit him, even in his drunken state, that he had said too much.
My take was that he killed him because he was abandoning him just like Tony, but he couldn't take out his frustration on Tony. I don't think Chris actually said anything incriminating that J.T. didn't already know, did he?
Not per se, but he did make references to Adrianna and Ralph, both of whom disappeared suddenly.
 
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Christopher walked into a guy's house, shoots him in the head, and walks out without cleaning up. The guy appears pretty affluent and directly connected to Christopher. I'd be shocked if that was the end of that story. I suspect he gets nabbed for that murder and gets life or enters "the program", leading to an expidited demise of virtually the rest of the cast. He may get capped by the family if they discover the liability that he is about to become.
One would think, but I doubt it gets brought back up again. Was a sloppy kill though.
The only thing he touched was the outside door, with his knuckles, when he knocked. He made sure not to touch the knob on his way out.
I know, but you'd think he'd be a pretty prime suspect. Guess there's not a lot they can do though without any evidence or a witness. Which is why it won't be brought back up.
Oh, like maybe a file on JT's computer titled "Just in case I get shot" that outlines everything he knows about Christopher?
How would they corroborate the information? Everything JT 'knows', I'm sure the feds already suspect.
Instead of it being a random shooting, suddenly the police have a prime suspect. Depending on what he has in there (recorded conversations, etc) the cops could be able to associate some motive to the killing on Chris. "JT wrote the movie, Chris took credit, and now the only guy that knew it is dead"
 
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Also, the college kid they beat up and poured acid on....how is that not going to get reported to campus cops? You don't think this kid will run to his parents for financial aid but also to let them know what happened? I just don't get it.
The goons made a point of telling the welcher that "Anthony Soprano Jr" was going to come after him if he didn't pay.If the cops squeeze AJ he'd sing like a bird, but he dosen't know anything. Interesting to see what Tony would do if AJ was facing 5 years in the pen. I don't know if AJ could do 5 years, even as the protected son of a boss.
 
Please See Mine said:
Ghost Rider said:
Chris obviously killed his writing buddy because it hit him, even in his drunken state, that he had said too much.
My take was that he killed him because he was abandoning him just like Tony, but he couldn't take out his frustration on Tony. I don't think Chris actually said anything incriminating that J.T. didn't already know, did he?
Chris didn't really flip out though until the writer asserted forcefully stated that Chris was in the mafia...I think at that point he realized he'd said to much to the guy. In any case, I'd be pretty surprised if that murder came back to haunt him unless he was stupid enough to keep the gun. Like Cappy said above, I think the more interesting storyline is the terrorist guys. I have no idea how it could play out, but it would seem that it could give Tony the out he seemingly wants if it amounts to anything. I also wouldn't be shocked to see something with Phil busting up Tony's crew and then Tony bringing down the NY crew in response.
 
Anybody else think the guy Chris was confiding to after the AA meeting might have been a plant? How tough would that be to send someone inside to see if they could get Chris to spill? He definitely was talking a lot and the guy sure seemed interested. And he piped up immediately after Chris started ragging about Tony.

That was the first thought I had during that scene.

 
Anybody else think the guy Chris was confiding to after the AA meeting might have been a plant? How tough would that be to send someone inside to see if they could get Chris to spill? He definitely was talking a lot and the guy sure seemed interested. And he piped up immediately after Chris started ragging about Tony. That was the first thought I had during that scene.
Shooter McGavin?
 
Anybody else think the guy Chris was confiding to after the AA meeting might have been a plant? How tough would that be to send someone inside to see if they could get Chris to spill? He definitely was talking a lot and the guy sure seemed interested. And he piped up immediately after Chris started ragging about Tony. That was the first thought I had during that scene.
Shooter McGavin?
I believe he's talking about the guy Chris was talking to in the stairwell, but the thought of him being a plant never crossed my mind.
 
A few comments:

- Paulie ripping up Chris's lawn was one of the funniest moments ever.

- You guys missed the best line: "My son is on the couch -- in the fetus position." :goodposting:

- Now that Baccala is so tight with Tony, I wonder if he'll ever tell T that Junior

was indeed in bed with Richie Aprile to move against him several years back.

***Typing this on the road on my sweet new lapper parked in front of a Starbucks*** :lmao:

 
- Now that Baccala is so tight with Tony, I wonder if he'll ever tell T that Juniorwas indeed in bed with Richie Aprile to move against him several years back.
I wish, but no way. Bobby was in on it as well.
:confused:Bobby quietly listened to the plot. Then when Albert said no, Bobby stood in the kitchen listening to Junior talking out loud about who he was better off with (Tony or Richie)... then June requested a meeting with Tony. Bobby said "I'm in awe of you." That was the extent of his involvement. Saying he was "in on it" is a stretch, IMO.
 
- Now that Baccala is so tight with Tony, I wonder if he'll ever tell T that Juniorwas indeed in bed with Richie Aprile to move against him several years back.
I wish, but no way. Bobby was in on it as well.
:thumbup:Bobby quietly listened to the plot. Then when Albert said no, Bobby stood in the kitchen listening to Junior talking out loud about who he was better off with (Tony or Richie)... then June requested a meeting with Tony. Bobby said "I'm in awe of you." That was the extent of his involvement. Saying he was "in on it" is a stretch, IMO.
That was the extent of Bobby doing anything at that point. Seemed to me he was nodding his head at what Junior said. At that point, nodding = being into it.But, I don't really want to argue about what a nod means.
 
THis is just my dopie opinion...

Agent Harris is still OC, he gets the arabs pinched on something. They use the arabs, plus Chris flipping to put Tony away for life. Paulie and Bobby get kilt by Phil L. Silvio finds Chrissy and whacks him. Sil joins forces with Phil.

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I'm not even sure why Chris used his sleeve to open the apartment door after killing JT. It is established that he has been in that apartment many times and he was a "friend" of JT's so his prints being in the apartment would not be anything that couldnt be explained away. I'm sure his prints were already in the apartment from one of his previous visits.

 
I'm not even sure why Chris used his sleeve to open the apartment door after killing JT. It is established that he has been in that apartment many times and he was a "friend" of JT's so his prints being in the apartment would not be anything that couldnt be explained away. I'm sure his prints were already in the apartment from one of his previous visits.
He was also ringing the doorbell before he began knocking, so his fingerprint would probably be the last one on the doorbell.Honestly, I don't think the murder of JT is going to come into play again. I think it is just showing Chris' desperation and lonliness. He feels as if he doesn't have a place in his 'family' anymore. He went to someone he thought he could talk to outside of the family, and he was pushed away.
 
First off, all I could think of until AJ finally went to the strip bar was.......what a whiny baby! Dude, he whimpered like a little girl most of the episode. No shot of AJ ever being more than marginally involved in the family business under the direct view of Tony.

And the look on Paulie's face as he drove up to Chris's yard was classic. So much history between those two, you just know they are gonna have at it before the end.

 
Anybody else think the guy Chris was confiding to after the AA meeting might have been a plant? How tough would that be to send someone inside to see if they could get Chris to spill? He definitely was talking a lot and the guy sure seemed interested. And he piped up immediately after Chris started ragging about Tony. That was the first thought I had during that scene.
I forgot about this until just now. I got the same feeling when watching it.
 
I like the title of this episode with relation to where it went. "Walk Like A Man" indeed. I used to be annoyed by AJ, but I am starting to see how his manic side may be interesting. Christopher is headed for a major crossroads. I am thinking it might be to try and turn state's evidence. He could take down everyone he has a problem with (Tony, Paulie, etc) without killing them and he could get off relatively free. And I think that Carlo and Patsy's kids are headed down the road to being the next soldiers in the family.

 
Is anyone else wondering why we haven't heard one thing out of Sylvio yet?

He freaked out when he was the acting boss when Tony was laid up, so I don't see him taking a run for the throne. But something just doesn't seem right.

Thoughts?

 
Is anyone else wondering why we haven't heard one thing out of Sylvio yet?He freaked out when he was the acting boss when Tony was laid up, so I don't see him taking a run for the throne. But something just doesn't seem right.Thoughts?
I don't think there's enough time to draw out much of a story line for Syl other than finishing out loyal to the end and right by Tony's side in whichever direction he goes. With 4 shows left and huge plot lines around Chris, Tony, AJ, Phil and lesser openings with Paulie, the Arabs, Carmela's house and relationship, there isn't much room left for characters like Meadow, Syl or Bobby. We've seen cancer claim John, Adriana get sniped, Vito beaten to death, Junior deciding he likes being locked into long term care and recognizes his deteriorating health. I just think it's too much to include anything that hasn't been open already.
 
Is anyone else wondering why we haven't heard one thing out of Sylvio yet?He freaked out when he was the acting boss when Tony was laid up, so I don't see him taking a run for the throne. But something just doesn't seem right.Thoughts?
I don't think there's enough time to draw out much of a story line for Syl other than finishing out loyal to the end and right by Tony's side in whichever direction he goes. With 4 shows left and huge plot lines around Chris, Tony, AJ, Phil and lesser openings with Paulie, the Arabs, Carmela's house and relationship, there isn't much room left for characters like Meadow, Syl or Bobby. We've seen cancer claim John, Adriana get sniped, Vito beaten to death, Junior deciding he likes being locked into long term care and recognizes his deteriorating health. I just think it's too much to include anything that hasn't been open already.
While I tend to agree...it also seems that each episode has centered around different relationships Tony has with with the people close to him. We still haven't seen Meadow or Sil resolved in any way and it seems like Chase started with those who were farthest from him and is building to those who are closest/who he trust the most.
 
Christopher walked into a guy's house, shoots him in the head, and walks out without cleaning up. The guy appears pretty affluent and directly connected to Christopher. I'd be shocked if that was the end of that story. I suspect he gets nabbed for that murder and gets life or enters "the program", leading to an expidited demise of virtually the rest of the cast. He may get capped by the family if they discover the liability that he is about to become.
One would think, but I doubt it gets brought back up again. Was a sloppy kill though.
Speaking of sloppy kills, how about Bobby Bacalas 1st kill? He left the gun with his prints, and the guy ripped a piece of his shirt. I wouldn't be surprised if this comes up in the next few weeks.
I would - cross the border for an absolutely unrelated person who has absolutely no connection to the dead body?I don't see it.GREAT episode - easily the best of this year, probably the best since season 5.The look on AJ's face shows he will clearly fill the void of depression with violent aggression - like Daddy like Son. The discussion of the rift between Chris and Tony and the growing unsettled rift between Cjhris and Paulie is gonna come to some kind of head b4 the series ends.IMO, Tony will not be dead at the end of the series, but he might be very very alone (either in jail or w/o any of his closest mafia people). I could see an end where Tony realize salvation is his family and not his mob family after, say, AJ dies.
 
Christopher walked into a guy's house, shoots him in the head, and walks out without cleaning up. The guy appears pretty affluent and directly connected to Christopher. I'd be shocked if that was the end of that story. I suspect he gets nabbed for that murder and gets life or enters "the program", leading to an expidited demise of virtually the rest of the cast. He may get capped by the family if they discover the liability that he is about to become.
Good post here. In a prior episode, Chris walks into the writer's place and hits him in the head with some sort of household object. The writer's wife came out in her nightgown when Chris walked in to see what the commotion was. Her husband ordered her back to the room. She's going to know who killed her husband in a split second.I know these mob guys walk around with impunity, but sometimes, sloppy murders get punished. The law is going to step in here, no? This murder just didn't make any sense other than Chris realized he had to kill him after offering up too much info. Also, the college kid they beat up and poured acid on....how is that not going to get reported to campus cops? You don't think this kid will run to his parents for financial aid but also to let them know what happened? I just don't get it.
Chase lets stuff like this slide ALL the time. We really have no idea which crimes come back to bite someone on the butt and which crimes simply fade into nothing.
 
I still wonder what the point was of the extended dream sequence when Tony was in a coma. Ya know, when his name was Kevin Finnerty. Anyone?

 
Is anyone else wondering why we haven't heard one thing out of Sylvio yet?He freaked out when he was the acting boss when Tony was laid up, so I don't see him taking a run for the throne. But something just doesn't seem right.Thoughts?
I've been thinking for some time that something big is going to happen with Silvio. Not sure what, but with this season focused on Tony's closest confidantes, something could be in the works. Sil is generally under the radar, with little more than his great contorted facial expressions, but it wouldn't surprise me to see something happen there. Don't forget - he was the one that whacked Adriana.
 
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The look on AJ's face shows he will clearly fill the void of depression with violent aggression - like Daddy like Son. The discussion of the rift between Chris and Tony and the growing unsettled rift between Cjhris and Paulie is gonna come to some kind of head b4 the series ends.IMO, Tony will not be dead at the end of the series, but he might be very very alone (either in jail or w/o any of his closest mafia people). I could see an end where Tony realize salvation is his family and not his mob family after, say, AJ dies.
I can see something like that happening. Tony told Melfi that this was his last time visiting her. You know that's not going to happen. The show won't end without at least one more solid Melfi session that helps Tony realize what he needs to do, whatever that may be. So what brings him to see Melfi again? Something big - like Phil giving Tony something to wallow about, just like he did to him - clipping Chris or worse yet, AJ. I think we will see Tony crying like a baby in Melfi's chair before the series ends. As far as Carlo's kid getting involved with the family, I can see that. Why else would they expand his character showing he can "earn" in college as well as take care of business. If AJ isn't killed off, I see him joining forces. Again, why else would Chase show AJ being an absolute baby, crying at other couples, crying at Starbucks, watching Tom & Jerry - only to see him watching a violent movie later on in the episode, participating in a beatdown, showing some signs of life as the man Tony would like him to be?-just my thoughts.
 
The look on AJ's face shows he will clearly fill the void of depression with violent aggression - like Daddy like Son. The discussion of the rift between Chris and Tony and the growing unsettled rift between Cjhris and Paulie is gonna come to some kind of head b4 the series ends.

IMO, Tony will not be dead at the end of the series, but he might be very very alone (either in jail or w/o any of his closest mafia people). I could see an end where Tony realize salvation is his family and not his mob family after, say, AJ dies.
I can see something like that happening. Tony told Melfi that this was his last time visiting her. You know that's not going to happen. The show won't end without at least one more solid Melfi session that helps Tony realize what he needs to do, whatever that may be. So what brings him to see Melfi again? Something big - like Phil giving Tony something to wallow about, just like he did to him - clipping Chris or worse yet, AJ. I think we will see Tony crying like a baby in Melfi's chair before the series ends. As far as Carlo's kid getting involved with the family, I can see that. Why else would they expand his character showing he can "earn" in college as well as take care of business. If AJ isn't killed off, I see him joining forces. Again, why else would Chase show AJ being an absolute baby, crying at other couples, crying at Starbucks, watching Tom & Jerry - only to see him watching a violent movie later on in the episode, participating in a beatdown, showing some signs of life as the man Tony would like him to be?-just my thoughts.
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I still wonder what the point was of the extended dream sequence when Tony was in a coma. Ya know, when his name was Kevin Finnerty. Anyone?
there was no point, just a filler episode
It's posts like this that make me think I'm watching an entirely different series than many people. The dream episodes were all about getting into Tony's head. About his conflict with the road he has chosen and what might have been. It's a big portion of the show IMO. I know many people prefer to just watch the action, this to me is what has differentiated Sopranos over the years. It's about more than just the action.
 
One other reason for why AJ might get clipped...

Chase spent a lot of time making sure the viewer knew that Tony thought AJ was special in the last episode. AJ was a big center piece of that episode? Why would Chase do that? To increase the character development and show how all of his family cared about him. Tony and his talk (you're special) Carmella and her worrying, even Meadow and her correlation to AJ and her friend from school who committed suicide. Chase really heightened AJ's role and his character and the only reason that fits the bill is because something is going to happen to him before the series ends, perhaps the next episode. We see it all the time. Characters that die in the movies always seem to have a character development just prior to dying. This could very well be what's going to happen to AJ. :shrug:

 
I still wonder what the point was of the extended dream sequence when Tony was in a coma. Ya know, when his name was Kevin Finnerty. Anyone?
there was no point, just a filler episode
It's posts like this that make me think I'm watching an entirely different series than many people. The dream episodes were all about getting into Tony's head. About his conflict with the road he has chosen and what might have been. It's a big portion of the show IMO. I know many people prefer to just watch the action, this to me is what has differentiated Sopranos over the years. It's about more than just the action.
:lmao:There was pages of discussion on the dream episode in the first half of the season 6 thread
 
Tony told Melfi that this was his last time visiting her. You know that's not going to happen. The show won't end without at least one more solid Melfi session that helps Tony realize what he needs to do, whatever that may be. So what brings him to see Melfi again?
Can he take her out? Does she know ANYTHING thats valuable to the feds? I gotta wonder how only his close confidants know he's seeing her. He hasn't EVER been followed to her office?
 
Tony told Melfi that this was his last time visiting her. You know that's not going to happen. The show won't end without at least one more solid Melfi session that helps Tony realize what he needs to do, whatever that may be. So what brings him to see Melfi again?
Can he take her out? Does she know ANYTHING thats valuable to the feds? I gotta wonder how only his close confidants know he's seeing her. He hasn't EVER been followed to her office?
Everybody knows, including New York. At the party after Christopher was made, Carmine asked Tony if the therapy was helping at all.
 
maybe fishing here, but does Chrissy take out melfi because tony told her things....just like tony had to take out Ade?

I always had the feeling that Tony had a better connection to melfi, than Carm.

Chris obviously still is hurting from Tony having to whack Adriana

 
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Also, I watched this past week's episode again, and another observation is Christopher is noticing that Bobby has usurped him as Tony's closest confidant as far as "real" family members go (Bobby being his brother-in-law). At the BBQ, Tony and Bobby were talking. Chris made a comment to Tony, who sort of blew him off and kept talking quietly with Bobby. Chris did not look happy with that. And later when Chris came to complain about Paulie, Bobby said, "What happened?" Chris kind of gave him a weird look before looking back to Tony to tell him what Little Paulie had done.

 
so if the feds (probably) know that he's seeing Melfi, why haven't they squeezed her for info? If he's no longer seeing her, I don't see her surviving.

 
maybe fishing here, but does Chrissy take out melfi because tony told her things....just like tony had to take out Ade?I always had the feeling that Tony had a better connection to melfi, than Carm.Chris obviously still is hurting from Tony having to whack Adriana
What ever happened to the chick cop who got Adriana to turn? I can't remember now.
 

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