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⚽ Soccer Match-day Thread (10 Viewers)

Dalot is a RB and the heir apparent to Ashley Young.  But honestly, I'm not gonna blame Ole for running Young out there as he's been good for years.  And do you really want to go to war with Barcelona with a just turned 20 year old Dalot as a RB?  That's asking quite a lot of him as I'm not quite familiar with who runs down the left side for Barcelona.  

Was Young poor, yes, but his deficiencies didn't lead to a goal against either, which is really a prime need.  You need a disciplined team and United were certainly that.

You know who would look great at United?  Joshua Kimmich - but that ain't happening..  I think you could do worse though then trying for Leon Bailey.  
Barcelona relies on fullbacks for width so that would be Alba mostly.  Coutinho joins as an attacking midfielder when he plays.  When Dembele plays, he typically is more of a wide-forward on the right.  But, he will make runs on either side.  It is a very fluid approach.

 
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Ashley Young has attempted 13 crosses in his last 2 games, and none of them have been accurate.

If at first you don't succeed, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try, try again.
Per OPTA: Ashley Young gave the ball away 30 times vs Barcalona

Dalot is a RB and the heir apparent to Ashley Young.  But honestly, I'm not gonna blame Ole for running Young out there as he's been good for years.  And do you really want to go to war with Barcelona with a just turned 20 year old Dalot as a RB?  That's asking quite a lot of him as I'm not quite familiar with who runs down the left side for Barcelona.  

Was Young poor, yes, but his deficiencies didn't lead to a goal against either, which is really a prime need.  You need a disciplined team and United were certainly that.

You know who would look great at United?  Joshua Kimmich - but that ain't happening..  I think you could do worse though then trying for Leon Bailey.  
I hope Dalot is, but they keep pushing him forward on the left wing or right wing.  He has done well but need to get him games at RB.  

And based on the above from Young, yes, get Young out of there and let Dalot play.  And Young has been crap all season and getting worse.  

 
Per OPTA: Ashley Young gave the ball away 30 times vs Barcalona

I hope Dalot is, but they keep pushing him forward on the left wing or right wing.  He has done well but need to get him games at RB.  

And based on the above from Young, yes, get Young out of there and let Dalot play.  And Young has been crap all season and getting worse.  
One specific thing that United has been poor at since SAF and Gill left is allowing aging vets to hang around and get critical minutes.  I was hopeful Ole would remedy that with his handling of Young but he hasn't shown the willingness to make a big decision there.  That's just one instance for him so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.  And SAF had his soft spots too.  He gave Scholes way too much playing time towards the end - one of the reasons Pogba left - but overall he seemed to have a good handle on when to mix fresh blood in.  The bigger problem may be, as you point out, they don't have the players that demand the time.  Dalot could be that guy but they don't have somebody pushing him out to help make the decision easier. 

The result from yesterday was just one team being better than the other.  I said the same thing after the first leg against PSG and Ole pulled off a miracle.  Seems unlikely to happen again but we'll see.

 
One specific thing that United has been poor at since SAF and Gill left is allowing aging vets to hang around and get critical minutes.  I was hopeful Ole would remedy that with his handling of Young but he hasn't shown the willingness to make a big decision there.  That's just one instance for him so I'll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.  And SAF had his soft spots too.  He gave Scholes way too much playing time towards the end - one of the reasons Pogba left - but overall he seemed to have a good handle on when to mix fresh blood in.  The bigger problem may be, as you point out, they don't have the players that demand the time.  Dalot could be that guy but they don't have somebody pushing him out to help make the decision easier. 

The result from yesterday was just one team being better than the other.  I said the same thing after the first leg against PSG and Ole pulled off a miracle.  Seems unlikely to happen again but we'll see.
I think the soft spot is correct since Ole has shown he will cut bait on those that don't fit (fellaini).  But also Ole trying to settle the team and push the tactics and image he wants means no radical changes.  It would surprise me more if Young was still the starter going into next season.  

With Shaw and Young suspended for the West Ham game this weekend, I expect we will get Dalot on the right and either Rojo or Darmien on the left.  Since Shaw is out 3 games, could then lead to Dalot and Young on the outsides and a good run of games for Dalot to show he deserves it.  

Barca isn't as dominant as they have been in the past and are susceptible to the counter.  A 2-1 win isnt out of the realm of possibility for United.  But also neither is a 3-0 win for Barca. 

 
Spurs:

No Kane - no problem

No Son - well, he can come on as a sub

No Dele - hmm...

No Winks - we don't need no stinking MFs

No Dier - stupid appendectomy ruined his season

No Lamela - he's a bad hombre, and only plays with his left foot anyway

No Alderweireld - he's off in the summer, might as well get used to it

No Rose - Can't play 3 times in a week

No Trippier - ok, we got lucky with that one

In SISSOKO we trust!!

 
What a win.  A few dodgy minutes after the two goals when they switched off, but comprehensive otherwise.

538 has it 52/48 for City; Oddschecker's at 57/43 for City.

Title race for the ages indeed.  Great season no matter how it plays out.

 
What a win.  A few dodgy minutes after the two goals when they switched off, but comprehensive otherwise.

538 has it 52/48 for City; Oddschecker's at 57/43 for City.

Title race for the ages indeed.  Great season no matter how it plays out.
That strike by Salah was insane. 

United fans have no clue what to root for when they play City.  Possibly give Pool the opening they need while trying to get top-4 or most likely lose out on top-4 but keep Liverpool knocked off their perch?

 
AAABatteries said:
That strike by Salah was insane. 

United fans have no clue what to root for when they play City.  Possibly give Pool the opening they need while trying to get top-4 or most likely lose out on top-4 but keep Liverpool knocked off their perch?
So many different angles to look at and its killing me.

1) Don't want Liverpool to win an EPL title
2) Don't want City to get the Quadruple
3) Need to get into the top 4

The twists: Liverpool winning a title still leaves them 1 behind overall and maybe fuels a United run next year.  City winning the quadruple would best the treble and theres no overturning that.

:wall:

 
So many different angles to look at and its killing me.

1) Don't want Liverpool to win an EPL title
2) Don't want City to get the Quadruple
3) Need to get into the top 4

The twists: Liverpool winning a title still leaves them 1 behind overall and maybe fuels a United run next year.  City winning the quadruple would best the treble and theres no overturning that.

:wall:
2 is simple - just root for Totts to hold on and even if they get a Treble it's inferior and would be a letdown.  Unfortunately, nobody gives a #### about the FA Cup any more, especially those of us outside England.  The only consolation for Pool winning the title would be if City only won the Caraboa Cup.  I think it's important for Ole to be in CL next year to attract the players he wants - for that reason I think making top-4 has to be the priority.  If Jose was still around we'd be rooting for City to beat us and finishing 5th to get rid of him.

 
2 is simple - just root for Totts to hold on and even if they get a Treble it's inferior and would be a letdown.  Unfortunately, nobody gives a #### about the FA Cup any more, especially those of us outside England.  The only consolation for Pool winning the title would be if City only won the Caraboa Cup.  I think it's important for Ole to be in CL next year to attract the players he wants - for that reason I think making top-4 has to be the priority.  If Jose was still around we'd be rooting for City to beat us and finishing 5th to get rid of him.
Yeah, Tottenham needs to come up huge.  Sadly I could handle Liverpool winning the CL just to keep City from doing it.  But City needs the CL more and Liverpool needs the EPL more.

I agree top 4 is the priority, meaning the chips will fall where they may....

 
Watford's keeper takes too long on the ball and it deflects off Aubameyang and in.  3 mins later Troy Deeney is sent off with a straight red.

12 mins into the game and its 1-0 arsenal and watford have to play the rest with 10 men.

 
Watford's keeper takes too long on the ball and it deflects off Aubameyang and in.  3 mins later Troy Deeney is sent off with a straight red.

12 mins into the game and its 1-0 arsenal and watford have to play the rest with 10 men.
Really harsh red. I don't see it. 

 
Really harsh red. I don't see it. 
In what I saw, Deeney runs by the Arsenal player and smacks him on the face.  Hard to tell if it was an elbow or hand that got him.  Deliberate and off the ball though.  I can see why they gave the red.  I do think that if he had simply booked him, no one would complain.   Video on twitter so it was hard to tell though.

ETA both friends that are Arsenal supporters agreed that it was a harsh red and should be yellow.

 
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In what I saw, Deeney runs by the Arsenal player and smacks him on the face.  Hard to tell if it was an elbow or hand that got him.  Deliberate and off the ball though.  I can see why they gave the red.  I do think that if he had simply booked him, no one would complain.   Video on twitter so it was hard to tell though.

ETA both friends that are Arsenal supporters agreed that it was a harsh red and should be yellow.
If Torreira is 4 inches taller, it's to a shoulder and not even a card or likely a foul.  

 
AAABatteries said:
That strike by Salah was insane. 

United fans have no clue what to root for when they play City.  Possibly give Pool the opening they need while trying to get top-4 or most likely lose out on top-4 but keep Liverpool knocked off their perch?
Nonsense.  The derby trumps all.  

 
2 is simple - just root for Totts to hold on and even if they get a Treble it's inferior and would be a letdown.  Unfortunately, nobody gives a #### about the FA Cup any more, especially those of us outside England.  The only consolation for Pool winning the title would be if City only won the Caraboa Cup.  I think it's important for Ole to be in CL next year to attract the players he wants - for that reason I think making top-4 has to be the priority.  If Jose was still around we'd be rooting for City to beat us and finishing 5th to get rid of him.
...but the glorious Totts plays no longer...

 
Not sure what happened to De Gea but thats no way to get to Real Madrid.

As for Young, well, he's Ashley Young.  Dalot should be in there.  Shaw would be in there (damn yellows).

And they seemed to start brightly, got a few chances, hit the bar...  Then Young to Messi.  Then Messi to De Gea.

 
Quotes that don't age well:

"Manchester United goalkeeping coach Emilio Alvarez says David De Gea has done "super special preparation" before facing Barcelona's Lionel Messi in Tuesday's Champions League encounter at Camp Nou."

 
Quotes that don't age well:

"Manchester United goalkeeping coach Emilio Alvarez says David De Gea has done "super special preparation" before facing Barcelona's Lionel Messi in Tuesday's Champions League encounter at Camp Nou."
Same training he did before facing Ronaldo in the World Cup?

 

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