🐴 *** 2023 Aniscule Thread *** 🇮🇹 Ha Vinto Il Cavallo Di Mio Cugina - ARCANGELO! 🇮🇹 🐴 (3 Viewers)

[rockaction]

Any last-ditch hopes that the racetrack could be salvaged truly may have been dashed Wednesday, when the Bears began interior demolition of the once-pristine grandstand building that was opened in 1989, four years after a fire brought down the old one.

Heard a woman on the plane say she went to Churchill Downs and it was closed. This must have been what she was talking about.

I found a song about Churchill Downs, but out of respect for the thread, I won't post it here. Truly and gobsmackingly a microcosm of all that is wrong with the world.

 

[otb_lifer]

Any last-ditch hopes that the racetrack could be salvaged truly may have been dashed Wednesday, when the Bears began interior demolition of the once-pristine grandstand building that was opened in 1989, four years after a fire brought down the old one.

Heard a woman on the plane say she went to Churchill Downs and it was closed. This must have been what she was talking about.

i were actually referring to the wrecking ball hitting venerable Arlington Park (Chicago 'burbs), which is owned by Churchill Downs Inc.

but Churchill has a slew of their own problems, some baker's dozen track fatalities in the first month of their meet - summarily shut racing operations and shifted duration of their spring/summer meet to adorable bullring Ellis Park - pretty sad stuff, tbh

I found a song about Churchill Downs, but out of respect for the thread, I won't post it here. Truly and gobsmackingly a microcosm of all that is wrong with the world.

please feel free to share up in here - you know this has always been a freewheelin' sorta hang - tho greatly diminished now by those absences ... so, jump on in - i appreciate your sentiments about respect, but we are ready fo ya in here, always

always & in all ways.

 

[otb_lifer]

Belmont Stakes day is shaping up to be some really great races. Looking forward to the Met Mile, Ogden Phipps, and the Belmont Stakes the most as a fan of the game.

Cody's Wish is the best story in all of racing, but Repo Rocks is where my money is going for the Met Mile, but there are some good horses in that race. I hope I can get 3-1+ on Repo Rocks if possible with most of money being on Cody's Wish. Cody's Wish is hard to bet against and when you think he can't do it again, sure enough here he comes and blows by them all.

Ogden Phipps is interesting with Clairiere, Secret Oath and Search Results. Secret Oath is one of my favorites to watch in all of racing, and another rematch of Clairiere and Secret Oath could get interesting.

Belmont Stakes, I am leaning towards either Tapit Trice or AOE right now, but will have Hit Show and National Treasure in my exotics. But there are so many quality horses in this race that it could be anyone's race, except maybe El Miracolo's (hopfully this ages well). So many question marks going into this race. Which Forte will show up, will the hitch effect him, he hasn't raced in a while. Can National Treasure get the distance or what type of trip on the front end will he get? How will Tapit Trice break, he has looked great leading up to this race, Tapit sire does well here. Arcangelo: wise guy horse who could take another step forward from the Peter Pan and steal this thing at a close to double digit ML, does he belong with the others? Hit Show performed well in the derby and could steal this at even bigger odds. AOE always shows up and runs his race no matter what is happening in front of him. Even Tapit Shoes has the name and pedigree for the Belmont and could get a soft front leading trip to get a piece, but would have to think he is a rabbit for Brad Cox. I wonder how many casual fans will confuse Tapit Trice with Tapit Shoes by betting the wrong horse.

great stuff

i agree that it truly are anybody's race - i would not be surprised by any result when they go 12 panels at Big Sandy ... shocked (Il Miracolo), but not surprised.

it's a very deep field as far as the quality is concerned for this crop - there are no super horse running loose with this lot, should be a very competitive affair.

value looks to be presenting itself, tho, in the form of both NT & HS - hope the odds stay similar come Saturday ... good chance they do, as i believe Arc is gonna take a ton of local coin, along with the Pletcher's ... NT will overlay due to the bias about getting the distance, though his dosage (remember that?) are the lowest in the field at 2.56 ... conversely, AoE, who is being looked at as a cinch to bag the 12 with ease, is up at 9.63 (the lower the dosage, the better the staying power, basically).

not for nuttin', but the great majority that win this race hover around 3.0 dosage, with Justy at 4.33 being a higher end outlier - this is a pretty solid trend.

Hit Show just keeps improving - steps forward each time out ... this is a spot he'll need to make his biggest leap up yet, but, just like NT, i'm BUYING if the public let the value fall into my lap.

now, let's see if we can clear this smoke to get tmrw in - it's friggin' brutal here atm.

 

[Timmay]

Training cancelled at Belmont for Thursday, but no word yet on the races for today. From what I am seeing on twitter, it sounds like as of now racing is a "certain go" for Saturday and most likely to happen on Friday.

 

[otb_lifer]

Training cancelled at Belmont for Thursday, but no word yet on the races for today. From what I am seeing on twitter, it sounds like as of now racing is a "certain go" for Saturday and most likely to happen on Friday.

yuuuuge difference today up here, as the winds have shifted - tmrw should be ok, Saturday will be no problem.

 

[otb_lifer]

Belmont cancels card today ... still a bit hazy out here, but markedly better than yesterday's sepia gauze.

rains tomorrow should provide the perfect cleanse - think today was erring on the side of extreme caution, so, good on them.

 

[Judge Smails]

Belmont Stakes day is shaping up to be some really great races. Looking forward to the Met Mile, Ogden Phipps, and the Belmont Stakes the most as a fan of the game.

Cody's Wish is the best story in all of racing, but Repo Rocks is where my money is going for the Met Mile, but there are some good horses in that race. I hope I can get 3-1+ on Repo Rocks if possible with most of money being on Cody's Wish. Cody's Wish is hard to bet against and when you think he can't do it again, sure enough here he comes and blows by them all.

Ogden Phipps is interesting with Clairiere, Secret Oath and Search Results. Secret Oath is one of my favorites to watch in all of racing, and another rematch of Clairiere and Secret Oath could get interesting.

Belmont Stakes, I am leaning towards either Tapit Trice or AOE right now, but will have Hit Show and National Treasure in my exotics. But there are so many quality horses in this race that it could be anyone's race, except maybe El Miracolo's (hopfully this ages well). So many question marks going into this race. Which Forte will show up, will the hitch effect him, he hasn't raced in a while. Can National Treasure get the distance or what type of trip on the front end will he get? How will Tapit Trice break, he has looked great leading up to this race, Tapit sire does well here. Arcangelo: wise guy horse who could take another step forward from the Peter Pan and steal this thing at a close to double digit ML, does he belong with the others? Hit Show performed well in the derby and could steal this at even bigger odds. AOE always shows up and runs his race no matter what is happening in front of him. Even Tapit Shoes has the name and pedigree for the Belmont and could get a soft front leading trip to get a piece, but would have to think he is a rabbit for Brad Cox. I wonder how many casual fans will confuse Tapit Trice with Tapit Shoes by betting the wrong horse.

great stuff

i agree that it truly are anybody's race - i would not be surprised by any result when they go 12 panels at Big Sandy ... shocked (Il Miracolo), but not surprised.

it's a very deep field as far as the quality is concerned for this crop - there are no super horse running loose with this lot, should be a very competitive affair.

value looks to be presenting itself, tho, in the form of both NT & HS - hope the odds stay similar come Saturday ... good chance they do, as i believe Arc is gonna take a ton of local coin, along with the Pletcher's ... NT will overlay due to the bias about getting the distance, though his dosage (remember that?) are the lowest in the field at 2.56 ... conversely, AoE, who is being looked at as a cinch to bag the 12 with ease, is up at 9.63 (the lower the dosage, the better the staying power, basically).

not for nuttin', but the great majority that win this race hover around 3.0 dosage, with Justy at 4.33 being a higher end outlier - this is a pretty solid trend.

Hit Show just keeps improving - steps forward each time out ... this is a spot he'll need to make his biggest leap up yet, but, just like NT, i'm BUYING if the public let the value fall into my lap.

now, let's see if we can clear this smoke to get tmrw in - it's friggin' brutal here atm.

Great point, though I'm just wondering if any of the previous absolutes in Triple Crown racing hold up anymore. Dual qualifiers, dosage, racing as a 2 year old, etc. There's nothing in his running style, including his finish in the Derby, that suggests AoE can't get 1 1/2. He might have been going best at the wire in the Derby. On the flip side, unless NT gets a super soft pace again I can't see him getting the distance, breeding or not. Though in the Belmont slow paces can absolutely happen.

 

[otb_lifer]

Belmont Stakes day is shaping up to be some really great races. Looking forward to the Met Mile, Ogden Phipps, and the Belmont Stakes the most as a fan of the game.

Cody's Wish is the best story in all of racing, but Repo Rocks is where my money is going for the Met Mile, but there are some good horses in that race. I hope I can get 3-1+ on Repo Rocks if possible with most of money being on Cody's Wish. Cody's Wish is hard to bet against and when you think he can't do it again, sure enough here he comes and blows by them all.

Ogden Phipps is interesting with Clairiere, Secret Oath and Search Results. Secret Oath is one of my favorites to watch in all of racing, and another rematch of Clairiere and Secret Oath could get interesting.

Belmont Stakes, I am leaning towards either Tapit Trice or AOE right now, but will have Hit Show and National Treasure in my exotics. But there are so many quality horses in this race that it could be anyone's race, except maybe El Miracolo's (hopfully this ages well). So many question marks going into this race. Which Forte will show up, will the hitch effect him, he hasn't raced in a while. Can National Treasure get the distance or what type of trip on the front end will he get? How will Tapit Trice break, he has looked great leading up to this race, Tapit sire does well here. Arcangelo: wise guy horse who could take another step forward from the Peter Pan and steal this thing at a close to double digit ML, does he belong with the others? Hit Show performed well in the derby and could steal this at even bigger odds. AOE always shows up and runs his race no matter what is happening in front of him. Even Tapit Shoes has the name and pedigree for the Belmont and could get a soft front leading trip to get a piece, but would have to think he is a rabbit for Brad Cox. I wonder how many casual fans will confuse Tapit Trice with Tapit Shoes by betting the wrong horse.

great stuff

i agree that it truly are anybody's race - i would not be surprised by any result when they go 12 panels at Big Sandy ... shocked (Il Miracolo), but not surprised.

it's a very deep field as far as the quality is concerned for this crop - there are no super horse running loose with this lot, should be a very competitive affair.

value looks to be presenting itself, tho, in the form of both NT & HS - hope the odds stay similar come Saturday ... good chance they do, as i believe Arc is gonna take a ton of local coin, along with the Pletcher's ... NT will overlay due to the bias about getting the distance, though his dosage (remember that?) are the lowest in the field at 2.56 ... conversely, AoE, who is being looked at as a cinch to bag the 12 with ease, is up at 9.63 (the lower the dosage, the better the staying power, basically).

not for nuttin', but the great majority that win this race hover around 3.0 dosage, with Justy at 4.33 being a higher end outlier - this is a pretty solid trend.

Hit Show just keeps improving - steps forward each time out ... this is a spot he'll need to make his biggest leap up yet, but, just like NT, i'm BUYING if the public let the value fall into my lap.

now, let's see if we can clear this smoke to get tmrw in - it's friggin' brutal here atm.

Great point, though I'm just wondering if any of the previous absolutes in Triple Crown racing hold up anymore. Dual qualifiers, dosage, racing as a 2 year old, etc. There's nothing in his running style, including his finish in the Derby, that suggests AoE can't get 1 1/2. He might have been going best at the wire in the Derby. On the flip side, unless NT gets a super soft pace again I can't see him getting the distance, breeding or not. Though in the Belmont slow paces can absolutely happen.

absolutely not basing anything on the dosage ... i just included it as an anomalous peripheral that i were not expecting when i dove deeper into this field.

not only were i shocked by NT's stellar index, but by how much better it are than AoE ... had it been 2.56 vs 3.87, sure, chalk it up as negligible - but the chasm really caught my eye, and i found it worth mentioning - certainly not as a selling point for NT, tho.

no, my selling point for NT are the at least 5/1 i see getting on Saturday - East Coast bias is gonna hit hard on the three (Forte, Arc, TT) locals, and all value with them will pretty much be sunk.

so my thinking are if i'm gonna throw a straight win bet in a pretty wide open race, gimme the price - and i'll get a good number with NT.

Cox is gonna try to rabbit him with TS, and who knows wtf Il Miracolo is gonna do 22/:44?), but there are no rider as Big Sandy savvy as Johnny V - this ain't Reincarnate, and they will not get baited - he gonna need to ration, and i do believe in his cruising speed being legit.

will be in the lead mid-stretch, imo ... my money are gonna get a ride.

 

[otb_lifer]

addendum to above - lowest i'll take on NT are the 5/1 ... if he drifts down (which i doubt), i'll entertain Hit Show win wager, and concentrate more on pounding the verticals.

my prediction of post time odds:

TT 2/1
AoE 5/2
Forte 3/1
Arc 5/1
NT 6/1
HS 9/1
RRO 21/1
TS 29/1
Illy 42/1

 

[-fish-]

On a long and boring conference call so played some Horseshoe Indianapolis. Exacta wheel on the morning line favorite pays $164.40 when 39-1 hits for second.

Didn't realize they end the day with mini-sprints, so next up race 10, an unplayable 300-yd maiden race with over half the field first time starters. But I have their money, so I guess I make a play. Ex Keybox 10/all.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Wtf am I seeing on espn bottom line? Watching college softball works series

NY governor says if air quality index exceeds 200 race will be called off?

Horses must pass vet exam if index is between 150-200?

 

[otb_lifer]

Wtf am I seeing on espn bottom line? Watching college softball works series

NY governor says if air quality index exceeds 200 race will be called off?

Horses must pass vet exam if index is between 150-200?

it are currently at 153 , things really got much better today - full card will go tmrw, as well.

Hochul is just grandstanding at this point, she knows it will be fine for Saturday, she's just using her bully pulpit to sound "tough" on ... well ... something.

everyone agreed with NYRA suspending operations for today, as we still needed clear out - but this will be good to go by the a.m.

ETA: forecast calls for a 120 reading tmrw.

 

[otb_lifer]

AQI of 76 out Belmont way this morning ... we racing, folks.

 

[otb_lifer]

Today's Stakes Sched:

Just A Game - R4 2:30 post

only roused a handful of entrants for this one, with prohib faves #1 In Italian & #3 Spenderella the focus - im'ma wheel the #4 Wakanaka back over the field and hope for some kinda bingo. wtf can ya do in a 5 horse affair.

The New York - R8 4:40 post

#7 War Like Goddess are a freakin' beast - if she's right, this will be a walkover ... but i'm looking at the #2 Shantisara to spring the upset ... will keybox with the 4, 7, 8.

Acorn - R9 5:15 post

#5 Munny's Gold vs #6 Pretty Mischievous ... dunno how we avoid these two prohibs in the wire picture - MG is just a blazer, might single this one in the horizontals - but if i'm playing to beat those two, i'll look to the bookends - Prat in the 8 hole with Accede, and Johnny V on the #1 Dorth Vader, debuting here for the Weaver barn ... 8 keybox w1,5,6

Belmont Gold Cup - R10 5:45 post

all this talk about who can get the mile n' a half tomorrow, pffffft ... these cats are going 2 full miles on the cabbage - full field of 13 as of rn, bit of good ol' European flavor racing here - love it.

Appleby has the favorite, naturally, coming out the 2 hole (Siskany) ... i'm giving a look to the old warhorse himself, #3 Channel Maker - has had an absolute s*** '23 thus far, and the clock may be punched for this 9 yr old, but let's give him one last hurrah over the Belmont spinach, which he has performed well on thru the years ... 3 keybox w 2,6,7,11

will clock in with the horizontals once we get grooving out there later.


ETA: i've hit my driveway traffic cone from my stoop with my dead cigs three times in a row this morning - kinda hot, ya know? good sign ...

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Hoping to be able to park in front of my tv this afternoon

 

[otb_lifer]

Hoping to be able to park in front of my tv this afternoon

FS2 12:30 - 5:00

FS1 5:00 - 6:00 ... so they will carry the Acorn & Gold Cup

then back to FS2 for the finale, which i omitted earlier -

The Intercontinental R11 6:20 post

i'm all about the #3 Clitheroe up in this one ... won over this same turf just last month - now goes off lasix, and cuts back to 6f ... will get a juicy pace to pounce on, and Motion has supplanted the heavily scrutinized Linda Rice as the turf sprint maven.

favorite #7 Bubble Rock also just dusted this course recently, and has a class advantage here ... but im'ma rub ol' Clit for a splash -

keybox 3 w 1,5,7

 

[otb_lifer]

EARLY PICK 3, RACES 1-3

6/2,5,7,8/1,6

$1 = $8 outlay, load it up fellas ...

 

[Cowboysfan8]

EARLY PICK 3, RACES 1-3

6/2,5,7,8/1,6

$1 = $8 outlay, load it up fellas ...

Just got home, missed the first. Using legs 2-3 in the double

 

[otb_lifer]

EARLY PICK 3, RACES 1-3

6/2,5,7,8/1,6

$1 = $8 outlay, load it up fellas ...

Just got home, missed the first. Using legs 2-3 in the double

the Mott coupled entry (1,1A) gonna be tough, but i gotta beat 'em to cash anything good ... i'm in 5x

 

[otb_lifer]

EARLY PICK 3, RACES 1-3

6/2,5,7,8/1,6

$1 = $8 outlay, load it up fellas ...

Just got home, missed the first. Using legs 2-3 in the double

the Mott coupled entry (1,1A) gonna be tough, but i gotta beat 'em to cash anything good ... i'm in 5x

f****** chalk first 2 legs - bombs away in the 3rd guaranteed - friggin' 2 went out waayyy too hard with the longshot #3 (21, 43 splits)

mutha eff me.

gimme the #1 in the 3rd for W, and key box over 2,5,6,7

 

[otb_lifer]

that #6 chalk debuting for Pletcher, 2nd time lasix ... he burnt 9/5 favorite coin first out - think he's vulnerable here in the 3rd ... but COTdamn gotta beat Irad/Pletcher in a MSW

 

[otb_lifer]

EARLY PICK 3, RACES 1-3

6/2,5,7,8/1,6

$1 = $8 outlay, load it up fellas ...

Just got home, missed the first. Using legs 2-3 in the double

the Mott coupled entry (1,1A) gonna be tough, but i gotta beat 'em to cash anything good ... i'm in 5x

f****** chalk first 2 legs - bombs away in the 3rd guaranteed - friggin' 2 went out waayyy too hard with the longshot #3 (21, 43 splits)

mutha eff me.

gimme the #1 in the 3rd for W, and key box over 2,5,6,7

Javi boots the #1 home at 17/1 ... HOPE YA TAILED.

respectable $36.50 for ex, and a $118 tri on the dollar.

now, if that effin' 2 didn't suicide in the 2nd, we woulda had close to a $400 pick 3

 

[otb_lifer]

friggin' match race, as expected, between the #1 & #3 there in the Just A Game (4th) ... ol' Wakanaka (#4) were game enough for 3rd - watch for that one next out, and bang it - was in way over it's head today with In Italian & Spendarella - a bit of class relief next out and she'll mop the eff up.

 

[the rover]

Belmont 6 #10 switches from Baffert to Pletcher, ships across the country and picks up Prat after 8 months off.

I'm buying.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

2,5,7,10 tri box Belmont 6

 

[Cowboysfan8]

EARLY PICK 3, RACES 1-3

6/2,5,7,8/1,6

$1 = $8 outlay, load it up fellas ...

Just got home, missed the first. Using legs 2-3 in the double

the Mott coupled entry (1,1A) gonna be tough, but i gotta beat 'em to cash anything good ... i'm in 5x

f****** chalk first 2 legs - bombs away in the 3rd guaranteed - friggin' 2 went out waayyy too hard with the longshot #3 (21, 43 splits)

mutha eff me.

gimme the #1 in the 3rd for W, and key box over 2,5,6,7

Javi boots the #1 home at 17/1 ... HOPE YA TAILED.

respectable $36.50 for ex, and a $118 tri on the dollar.

now, if that effin' 2 didn't suicide in the 2nd, we woulda had close to a $400 pick 3

sigh……I haven’t been able to sit down and cap a race yet today. I missed it

Stay hot !

 

[otb_lifer]

EARLY PICK 3, RACES 1-3

6/2,5,7,8/1,6

$1 = $8 outlay, load it up fellas ...

Just got home, missed the first. Using legs 2-3 in the double

the Mott coupled entry (1,1A) gonna be tough, but i gotta beat 'em to cash anything good ... i'm in 5x

f****** chalk first 2 legs - bombs away in the 3rd guaranteed - friggin' 2 went out waayyy too hard with the longshot #3 (21, 43 splits)

mutha eff me.

gimme the #1 in the 3rd for W, and key box over 2,5,6,7

Javi boots the #1 home at 17/1 ... HOPE YA TAILED.

respectable $36.50 for ex, and a $118 tri on the dollar.

now, if that effin' 2 didn't suicide in the 2nd, we woulda had close to a $400 pick 3

sigh……I haven’t been able to sit down and cap a race yet today. I missed it

Stay hot !

sittin' out 'til Channel Maker later on - Javi booted me a doozy, way up now for tmrw's bankroll.

i would suggest taking a look at this #8 horse here in the 6th ... DD/Rice combo are itm 75% of the time locally - bit of class relief, to boot.

gl

ETA - 8 getting pounded at the winderr ...

 

[-fish-]

Guess he needed a race. Might still be running.

 

[otb_lifer]

#8 scratched in the upcoming NY, so i'll slide the #3 in there now ... 2 keybox w3,4,7

more on that #3 ... only race carded today for connections, and she's yet to taste defeat - still like my #2, but the scratch of the #8 changes the complexion - the #3 should be right there kicking late with #2, both off the pace gals (as were the #8).

 

[Cowboysfan8]

11/all ex race 7

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Guess he needed a race. Might still be running.

Michelle on fox said he looked fat as they were going to the gate

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Why is there noone at the track?

 

[otb_lifer]

11/all ex race 7

watch Johnny V on that 9

 

[otb_lifer]

where were the fire? were they racing to Quebec?

FAST.

 

[otb_lifer]

11/all ex race 7

game 3rd, definitely got the pace needed to chew into

ETA: stable for next out

 

[-fish-]

2,3,4 ex box and hope war like goddess needs more distance

 

[otb_lifer]

... so the 2 decided to press today ::shuked::

3 & 4 ran big ... obviously.

 

[-fish-]

2,3,4 ex box and hope war like goddess needs more distance

$5 exacta paid $137.50

 

[otb_lifer]

Joel gettin' smoked out there - thank god Luis is on Channel Maker ...

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Munnys Gold for me

5/2 is stealing

 

[otb_lifer]

Munnys Gold for me

5/2 is stealing

big syndicate money ain't in yet

 

[-fish-]

I think Pretty Mischievous is beatable here. A couple more strides and she would have placed in the Kentucky Oaks.

2/5/6 tri box

 

[otb_lifer]

DORTH ran yuuuge

just outclassed at the wire - the barn switch proved the goodt angle.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

Heading out fur drinks and dinner

2.3.7.13 ex box

 

[otb_lifer]

Munnys Gold for me

5/2 is stealing

big syndicate money ain't in yet

PM actually took the better of the late synd coin ... clicked down a bit moar than MG

OK, CHANNEL MAKER ... my money is back in play, buddy -

3 key box w2,6,7,11 all the way down

 

[-fish-]

I don't understand the attraction with Siskany.

 

[-fish-]

I'm on amazing grace. Hit the board 13 times in 16 races, and 4-1 is a nice price.

 

[otb_lifer]

oooooh Channel Maker, you ain't stealin' this Luis

 

[otb_lifer]

Appleby are the sharpest route spinach shipper to this track - hell of a finish.

and we likely bid farewell to Channel Maker - the old man's earned his rest - though being a gelding may keep him running thru the duration of '23, at least ... but i hope they retire him coming out of a Stakes try, rather than run him back for peanuts - too classy to go out like that.

 

[otb_lifer]

50 Years Ago Today

Big Red are the of Championship performances ... nothing else like it.

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